Niagara Bill
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31 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:
...sorry folks...despite Wuhan Chinese funeral homes ordering thousands of urns well beyond their "reported (COUGH) deaths, and the slimy WHO Prez in their back pocket, Sleepy Joe said "they are our friends"...if "Joe says so", convince me to doubt otherwise.......
China lied about coronavirus, putting world in jeopardy, US intelligence agents say
By Barnini Chakraborty | Fox News
As coronavirus cases have jumped in recent days, China misled the world by purposely underreporting its numbers of patients and deaths, three U.S. intelligence officials say.
In a classified report sent to the White House, the officials said that China's public record of COVID-19 infections was deliberately deceptive and incomplete.
Bloomberg, which first reported the news, cited three U.S. intelligence officers who they said they alerted the White House last week to Beijing's misleading numbers. Two of the three sources called the numbers flat-out fake.
https://www.foxnews.com/world/china-lied-coronavirus-cases-deaths-patients-intelligence
Find someone to blame. Shoot and ask questions later. Believe reporters when it suits you. Trust the CIA when it is convenient.
You may be losing 200,000 citizens in to the next 90 days. That is the same number lost over 10 yrs. In Vietnam.
You should be expecting the truth from your own government rather than worried about the number of urns in Wuhan.
So the Chinese understated their problems....and others have not.??
Who gives a rat's butt. They also allow abortions but who cares.!!
I am not a fan of China, but wasting time on blame is misdirected today.
Just protect yourself family and friends....stay safe.
If you survive you can go court if you can find a lawyer alive and a judge to hear you.
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16 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:
You have no ability to think beyond the most obvious. Why would the Chinese make such an outrageous lie? What does that lie support?
I never indicated the Chinese lied, Just they could and likely do. Who cares if someone shipped 40000 urns...that is my point to those who just want to find an enemy, like Saddam, got to find someone to blame.
Even if they lied, my point was our governments lie, Just do not demonize the Chinese over such a tragic circumstance.
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8 hours ago, Boatdrinks said:
They just cannot be trusted. A global crisis and unscrupulous Chinese companies looking to capitalize.
Agree that there are many unscrupulous Chinese companies, and government officials, but we also have them. Our government officials also lie to us every day.
Consider watching Trump, the surgeon General, the medical specialist who tell you CDC set record times for approving drug trials and production or processes, BUT it has taken them a month and still cannot decide whether people should wear a mask....they are still considering...BS
Ps....Canada is no different on this decision...
The US government is predicting 100,000 to 200,000 citizens may die and in 30 days they cannot decide is masks should be worn to help protection of the person or others who may spread the virus and be Asymptomatic. BS
a far more serious lie than 2500 deaths vs 40000 urns
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11 hours ago, Buffalo Timmy said:
I am confused by your insinuation- are you actually stating you trust the Chinese Govt over Trump? I assume I am misunderstanding your point because that would be the definition of ignorance.
Never suggested I fully trusted the Chinese communist party, but how can anyone have blind trust of the press these days. Every Trump supporter says the press cannot be trusted...except when it suits them
40000 ventilators will be available by end of Mar...oh NOT.
40,000 urns....likely from area 51. Gotta find blame..Gotta bomb someone, Saddam is dead and his WMDs.
One day Trump loves China then he hates them. Loves Putin then doesn't trust him, loves Kim then hates him,
Seems that many people can be conveniently gullible.
The press is no longer neutral, always trying to justify someone's position.
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3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:
I guess they figure if they are gonna lie, they may as well lie big. ?♀️ Pinocchio has got nuthin’ on the Chinese.
Seriously....Trump actually tells the truth, right....and you think that an ultra right article saying the Chinese are twisting the truth is credible....
This kind of b.s. should be in the area 51 files with Fox Mulder.
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Trump may have troops on the Skyway to stop you....
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1 hour ago, Hardhatharry said:
Meh crazy people even when there is no virus.
No virus, but heading to maybe 100000 dead....you should go back to the beach party
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Frank Costanza......FESTIVUS for the rest of us!
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1 hour ago, unbillievable said:
Jokingly, a co-worker proposed putting anyone over 60 in isolation camps.
I thought about how logical that sounded.
....so this is how those other regimes started.
Then who would go to work, millennials...haha
They show up 3 days a week, can these camps be at club med...or are your suggesting a Nazi like environment.
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1 hour ago, Magox said:
This is the sort of vapid talk that I do not miss in PPP.
But something for you to chew on how unemployment layoffs disproportionately hurts blacks and latinos
But carry on.
I really don't know what a gradual phasing in and guidance would look like. My guess is that Trump is using his instincts to pit himself against the media knowing that by the time they actually begin to implement this phase in that the media will be on the wrong side of public sentiment.
With that said, public sentiment I'm sure is not ready to get back to work at this time. They have been shell-shocked with social distancing and 24/7 news related to the Virus. It's going to take some coaxing.
And unlike Cuomo, who can in detail explain things with empathy and data, Trump will have to somehow get the communication out that there is a coherent plan that has his medical team somehow on board.
I'm guessing that there is very little chance that most of the economy will roar right back. I think it will be a regional approach, areas that are showing that they have things in control will be the first to get the go ahead's from their governors. And state by state the governors will have too much pressure to get their workforce to get back to work. I would think that they will advise for the elderly and those with pre existing afflictions to be extra careful and not go out unless necessary. Which is very unfair but I'm guessing that will be on the table.
And then the same jazz with the washing of hands, not shaking hands etc etc.
But, truth be told, I think they will need to have some sort of data of the mortality rates. Right now the mortality rates are showing here in the U.S as 1.25%. But it's actually a whole lot lower than that. There are studies out there that show that the amount of people who have contracted the VIRUS who have gone undetected is anywhere from 500-1000%. It makes sense because they are predominately testing those who are sickest and showing the most symptoms.
It would be good if they could do random mass sampling throughout the country to get a good idea of what the actual contracted infected rate is along with the other data points that they have amassed and get the actual mortality rates. My guess is that the actual mortality rate here in the U.S will probably be around .3%. Most likely for those under 60 without health conditions it will be about as benign as the common flu and for those with respiratory, heart and cancer afflictions that it will be considerably more deadly.
But I think getting a true gauge of the mortality rate will play a long way in restoring public confidence to get them back to work.
I also don't think they guidance from the government will be ready by Easter. I'm guessing about 4-8 weeks from now.
Seriously, the black Latino card. Do you read the USA TODAY AND BELIEVE IN THEIR SURVEYS.!!
Gee, it hurts the homeless more? so you can save vent soace in NYC. (Sarc)
You have to choose. Money or citizens.
I love the small business man, his desire, his risk, and he she deserves assistance. The big guys are being hurt by the mba'ers on wall street.
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His head over took his ability. Superman became Jimmy.
Disliked him when he was on top. Dislike him now.
My description is...Punk!
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1 hour ago, Magox said:
There needs to be a national dialogue about this. Unfortunately with the way Trump oafishly says things and the way the media likes to cover the minutia of his words as opposed to the substance of it, it is nearly impossible to have that dialogue.
At some point, the country will need to begin phasing back in the workforce. We just need to know what the metrics that they will be looking at, how a phased in workforce would look like and what the risks would be?
The economic cost of a protracted downturn is mind bending, but there is a human health component to it as well. The 2008 downturn according to studies caused over 12,000 suicides and Tens of thousands of indirect deaths due to added stress which lowers people's immune systems that makes those with heart and cancer afflictions specially at risk. This DOES NOT HAVE TO BE A BINARY CHOICE! - It does NOT HAVE TO BE ONE OR THE OTHER. There is a responsible way to decide when we can begin this and how it would look like. For those of you that are interested in seeing this Harvard study on the impacts of protracted unemployment to people's health you can read that here.
I suggest all the big talkers about sacrificing lives for the sake of the stock market should declare the type of jobs they have.
The economy problem starts with all the baby mba'ers on wall street who discount stock prices of great companies based onTrump sneezing not 20 years of success.
Same people created the lead up to the 2008 crisis. Remember derivatives.
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I think you may have a point.
We had the bird flu after they stopped producing Piel's beer....$4 a case
Then coke tried to drop what is now classic and SARS hits...
All makes sense now!
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On 3/21/2020 at 10:01 AM, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:
True, but before that he was a New Christy Minstrel. ?
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If we dig deep enough, do we find Hendrix was in ‘Up With People’? ?And the First Edition
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IMHO the biggest concern with Diggs is personality.
He and Cousins had conflicts that carried onto the field and spread to the coaches and game plan.
Josh has demonstrate his leadership on the field. He has taken control of the huddle. His strength of personality shows in his comeback mentality.
Can or will Diggs allow himself to slip into the team, or will he react like in Minny when things get tough?
I want his fire, not his conflict.
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22 hours ago, LeviF91 said:
Now I've been accused by Niagara Bill of being crazy for thinking that communism is bad and that selling our future to communists is bad.
See how this works? "America must sell its interests overseas, or else they're insane!" Really? Is that how this ***** works now?
Never accussed you of being crazy, Just paranoid and sounding like Deliverance. When your society is open and free that means I get to have any gun I want and spend my money where I want. These interests you speak of is money earned by citizens. These are not government secrets.
I am not suggesting that a country should not be concerned about intellectual property, and manufacturing capability, but the commie thing is ridiculous.
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11 hours ago, 4merper4mer said:
You're right commies are great. I mean China isn't commie. I mean.....well.....I'm confused; can you tell me what I'm supposed to think?
Think for yourself....McCarthy is the example of how America stops thinking and fall in line like privates. YES SIR!!
Think openly not what your Sarg. or daddy told you
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11 hours ago, Cripple Creek said:
A wee bit too much caffeine today?
Day 9 of self quarantine for C19....but my point is Gurley cannot come to Buff because Diggs wants it....
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22 hours ago, LeviF91 said:
The willful blindness of never-Trumpers and leftists is traitorous as well.
In a sane society, Tiberius and his ilk would have been publicly flogged and possibly hanged years ago.
A definition of "corruption" that does not include SELLING AMERICA TO CHICOMS is nothing if not a vile and contemptuous attempt to cover up their sins which dwarf anything they've accused Trump of.
Enough is enough.
You get great reception in your bunker. What's the code word to get in. Watch out for those commies, McCarthy is reborn.
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This is great. Coming to the Bills I could not accept.
My reasoning....
Diggs is a questionable personality to add to this team.
Diggs wanted Gurley, his buddy.
Diggs insults Singletary without even a thought.
Diggs needs to be shown he does not run the team. A team he has never met.
Diggs, shut up. You are a great piece to a team, not a savior, Beane runs this team.
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This guy is only half Mario Williams...and look at his value for money spent...
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3800 people got on a cruise ship Sunday in Miami, without testing and without testing equipment on board.
This makes it very clear that THE EDUCATION SYSTEM IS A TOTAL FAILURE.
A few folks who obviously had superior intelligence refused to board.
There should be a survey done on this group before it is too late to determine what schools they attended, if any, federal funding should be immediately stopped and all grads should be stripped of their degrees.
Just sayin'.
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On 3/9/2020 at 11:20 AM, row_33 said:
this isn’t part of workout culture?And this is why virus and bad bacteria spread
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He swore at a boss/owner who deserves to be sworn at. Not the first...but he is still the owner....
The China Problem
in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
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Ashamed for facing reality....haha
And now the Wizard of Orange is passing the baton to Spence and is off fighting illegal drug traffickers. He must have watched ZeroZeroZero on Prime and lost interest in 200000 citizens.
The Chinese with out a doubt did not scream loud enough or soon enough.
The wizard also ignored his own people from CDC in Jan.
He beat his chest in Feb like a defensive end after a sack. Me superman!!
Who is most guilty....Who gives a fu...
Safe the 200000 and stop the politics
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