Niagara Bill
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29 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:
Ni, here’s the problem with your analysis. Take it for what it’s worth, in the spirit of more broadly understanding your position and mine.
The concept of civility in the public debate is an illusion. DJT was laughed at, scorned and ridiculed by his opponents inside his party, and reviled, insulted and accused of blatant racism by those on the other side of the aisle. Hillary Clinton, she of enablement of a predatory husband fame, she of a “don’t believe that bimbo she’s a *****“ fame, she of leaving Americans to die in Libya fame and participating in a cover up thereafter, well her opening gambit in the debate was “he’s a bigot, xenophobe, assaulter of women and worse”. I ask you, child of the 60s, were you outraged? Did you call for unity, peace and love from her and key members of her party?
Brett Kavanaugh, by all accounts a more than decent public servant and with a record of 30+ years of excellence in the bench and an outstanding intellectual pedigree, when the entire democrat leadership attempted to eviscerate him in front of the nation, his wife and the two little girls who look up to him as a hero, did you rage over the treatment and demand civility?
Were you frustrated, kind and decent neighbor to the north, as you watched the Russia investigation unfold, play out before the eyes of the world where a political enemy screamed “Donald Trump is a treasonous bastard!” with a story so preposterous that it unraveled in about 20 minutes even as the insane kabuki theater raged on for nearly 4 years? I bet, given your love of history and protocol, you were probably incensed that political operatives conspired to steal the votes of 60,000,000+ decent and hard-working Americans, and were so &$#@ing incompetent in the scheme that quite literally 4 years, $40,000,000 and limitless investigative and police powers revealed...nothing.
I could go on, but I’m sure you’re as angry as I am at the mockery made of civility, tolerance, protocol and respect for the party and candidate the American people chose to lead the country. I’m sure that Trump’s incredible and historic jobs numbers, the repatriation of massive sums by corporations that gave the big fu to unreasonable and excessive taxation, the tax cuts returning money to middle-class families, the BOOMING economy that benefits nit only the US but virtually every other nation standing in the shadows with a hand out...none of that means a thing. Better to have a president that speaks respectfully to his enemy, and to turn the other cheek as the entirety of dem leadership lies, cheats, steals with nary a civil word to be said.
Now Covid19. Are you seeing civility from Biden, Sanders, Pelosi et al? I’m hearing that they are sparking up the next investigation, the next flim flam, the next bull#### investigation that will cost millions, provide their dopey supporters with another reason to hope for the destruction of a lawfully elected president—enemies all of freedom and democracy and protocol—only to end up in the same place they are today. Losers, betrayed by their leadership, betrayed by the facts, left to be punched around here by logic and inevitability.
Civility is overrated.
2 skunks pissi g on each other just stinks more. Trump is an arrogant as?.
He does nothing to govern for the people only his voters.
Pelosi is worse than Trump. Both are elitists.
You need a leader...not a religious nut like Pence in the wings.
Your country is going to implode, or explode if this continues, and Bin Laden will have won. He predicted this.
Throw in the potential overturn of Roe v Wade and guns will be needed to go for a beer.
It makes me so sad. It is worse than the 60s. Kent state, assassinations of 2 Kennedy's X! King,
Booming economy for 401ks is not the measurement of happiness and success. Stripmalls are not a sign of success. Stop trying to win.
This us not the NFL, where the day after winning means Disney and then the tea.ity that what we just did was nothing other than a game and entertainment.
This is about life...happiness not battle. Boogie men are not around every corner.
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42 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said:
By your initial proclamations, it would be impossible to last another 10-12 months - as there would be nobody left alive after about 4-5 monthsSeriously.
The 6 months is right if everyone acted like Florida did u til this week.
This virus, sans new drug or inoculation will take 12 months to make it safe to go to a wedding, concert, or major event. Trump said Easter.....the bunny died...likely Labor Day before you can have your full family over
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1 hour ago, Foxx said:
your not an American? lol, you sure have enough opinions about a country your not a citizen of. why don't you take a back seat and let us Americans figure it out. bye Felicia.
Up yours you arrogant a?? And you have opinions about Canada, socialist based countries and China and Russia. Don't tell me I don't have the right to have an opinion...you are the definition of the local uneducated American. Your type is more rare these days but you must have crawled out from under a rock. Typical Trumpeter.. had to end with an insult. Look in the ,mirror Ned
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18 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:
The above is what happens when you drink directly from the disinformation spigot. It not only makes you dumb, it makes your jokes turrible.Yeh I know, my jokes are not often great, but I try.
I think people should be citizens of the world as well as a citizen of your country. Makes a broad perspective possible and the sharing and debating events more tolerable. While I am not American I have many friends who are. I hate to see the polarization, the hatred, the divide. I lived the 60s, this is worse. Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon never insulted their citizens. Nixon fired 1 prosecutor, Cox, and in the country all parties were not impressed. This guy insults 200 years of history and protocol (often called civilized) processes. By the way so does Pelosi.
Reagan and Tip O Neill would hate this environment.
You are what happens when the FBI gives you a check and expects you to drink from the tap of the Wizard of Orange.
You are not dumb, think with an open mind for all the citizens of your country, not just the 44% that cast a vote for his highness.
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2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:
Just last week you said using the word "draconian" was just trying to show off.
You're even more dumb than I gave you credit for -- but every bit as dishonest.
Like your CIA BUDDY, this was not your conversation...
How many FBI Operatives dies it take to change a light bulb.
Answer..who knows..they never tell the truth..but they have a conspiracy theory
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47 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:
My word NiWills. "A bully"? It's a message board, and when you swing, the other guy likely swings back. It's not a playground, no one is taking any lunch money, and there is no need for a safe space. Interact. Don't. Ignore. Don't. But no whining.
And I just want to point out that while suggesting he's a conspiracy guy, your description of the current administration reads right out of some looney left leaning fringe conspiracy group. Then again I know you're probably more comfortable speaking in your native French, maybe something gets lost in translation?
Rhino can stand up for himself. He doesn't need a junior agent to defend him. Speaking French is now an insult?. Typical Trumper.
I said nothing about a Trump conspiracy just supporters who see conspiracies like McCarthy did.
If you must play the game Ned Beatty...state your thoughts not defend your CIA Buddy.
At least you show signs of intelligence...not one stupid or idiot comment like you little buddy Rhino..the guy with no sense of humor.
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19 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:
Now I understand how you can willingly push CCP propaganda without realizing it.
You REAL dumb.
History repeats itself.
In the 50s people were called communists by establishment who saw conspiracy on every corner,
In the 60s and 70s when we protested against the war we were called communists pinkos by the establishment, we were shot by your own National guard,
Troops even protested against the establishment ( think Roosevelt capt.) And ran from the draft. Trump had a hangnail.
The fbi infiltrated the youth, the Democratic convention. Conspiracy was everywhere.
Fast forward...you are the new conspiracy theorist, defending an administration that has lied, allowed their citizens to die, lashing out at anyone who sleaks up.
McCarthy, Nixon had no sense of humor.
Your language is like your leader.
Dumb, stupid etc etc. You are a bully with no sense of humor.
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2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:
That comment is so stupid it gave me Tucker face:
Now I know you are a CIA plant, you seriously can not take a joke. Way too thin skinned to be human. ?
47 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:Again -- a low information poster thinks an actual indictment from the DOJ is a "conspiracy theory".
Proving that he doesn't understand what the DOJ is or how it works.
https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1239796/download
More proof you are a CIA plant. Your knowledge is too great. ?
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48 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:
Proving you don't have the faintest clue how the IC works... or the Pentagon.
Aw ha...I knew you were a CIA troll....?
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A few interesting events
Atkinson gets fired in the dark of night for doing his job.
The captain of an aircraft carrier gets tossed for trying to make people listen about the virus. His crew cheers for him. His bosses toss his butt for breaking a rule
Dr. Fauci is being pushed aside and not being allowed to comment and he is the expert
Last week the Surgeon General who couldn't decide if a mask was good or bad because of politics is now demonstrating how to make a homemade mask. I guess the Wizard of Orange came up with this idea.
Such strange events from this administration
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3 hours ago, Tiberius said:
Socialism brings us affordable milk.
Socialism is a word that venture capitalists want you to think as evil. Danny May and Freddy Mac are socialist programs bigger than anything other countries have
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On 4/4/2020 at 2:45 PM, Magox said:
Not that this pertains to the subject but I figured I’d throw this out there
Click below to enlarge (charted by Statista)
It also shows unhealthy masses requiring the need.
With many if these countries having open healthcare not a lot of private, it also demonstrates where private healthcare makes its money. There is no money on sending people home when capable. There is money in private healthcare keeping you in the critical care bed...
The US private system also has a big focus on private and semi private rooms
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17 minutes ago, Koko78 said:
You're dreaming. China doesn't even comply with rulings from international courts they do recognize.
Maybe you should read first before jumping. I said it would likely be ineffective. Is that dreaming. I went on to say that it may be pressure from many countries.
Did you even think about labor laws...and patents?
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4 hours ago, RochesterRob said:
While fine in theory I doubt very much that China will make any reparations to the rest of the world. We still can not be sure that this pandemic was not intentional.
Reparations thru a court that China will not recognize would be an interesting challenge and in the end be ineffective, but can play a role to bring collective pressure. The real issue with China will be as always, patents respect and labor laws. It was and is the same with Mexico. Until manufacturing companies insist on these nothing will happen.
Ask yourself this question, US dept of labour insists that companies doing business in Mexico adhere to the same OHSA standards as US facilities. I have lived thru that.
Sub suppliers do not have to adhere.
US companies with China .locations do not have to adhere because the Fed. Govn does not apply it. NAFTA was the catalyst for Mexico. Trump and the republicans have no desire to press this position with China.
Canada is the same position.
You have to ask politicians, why?
The answer $$$
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8 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:
I agree. It's real dumb to compare the removal of a captain to the MURDER of doctors by the CCP as if they were the same.
Which is what you did. And you're standing by it. Because you are a leftist who's pushing propaganda on behalf of a regime which right now is actively engaged in ethnic cleansing within its own population -- on top of its draconian state measures. To compare them as if they're the same shows the world that you are truly a breathtakingly stupid individual.
That's on you, Bill. Own it.
Amazing when a person who considers themselves to be an intellectual with big words like draconian...is so engulfed In hatred they can no longer see when they are flying up their own a??.
By the way no one who knows me would ever say I am a leftist...
I dislike Trudeau...just hate to see a society that was just and caring and honorable become Trumped and spiteful and hateful. Read your own posts and tell me you are proud....if you are....my sympathies
Say good night Gracee. And good night from Texaco.
56 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:You're an idiot. My offer stands, I'll buy the barrel if you will use it.
You are out of your league puppet...
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27 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:
You're an idiot. My offer stands, I'll buy the barrel if you will use it.
Awe yes...another bully...
My offer stands that if you can actually express you thoughts without quoting stereotypical Trumpisms people might listen.
I noted how you jumped in with your buĺly friend to gang up...cannot even think on your own. Easy eh. Watch the movie 12 Angry men, learn something about yourself.
Just now, Deranged Rhino said:You compared the removal of a Captain to the MURDER of doctors as if they were the same.
I didn't do that. You did.
That's because you're stupid. Too stupid to feel the hand up your ass which is moving your mouth on behalf of the CCP.
Such intelligence .....
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11 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:
Yes. You are. You're a parrot for the CCP whether you realize it or not, you've proved that already. That you're too stupid to understand that is why the CCP picks people like you to spread their screed.
Love when you know you are wrong you revert to Trumpisms, .like idiot and stupid...typical bully, bleeding from her face, short and fat...soooo intelligent. If you had a point the world now discounts you....like I now do..
Your hatred and love of Trump covers up any potential intelligence.
Good night my good man
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39 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:
Try harder. The Captain was relieved of duty not because he didn't properly go up the chain of command but because he also sent a copy of his letter to his superiors to over 20 other people, knowing full well that it would get out. Telling the world that we have an aircraft carrier parked in Guam that is less than fully functional isn't the wisest thing to do. The Captain's superiors lost faith in his judgement. We can't have someone in his position who cannot be trusted. I doubt you would want one of your aircraft carrier captains (HAHA) to be untrustworthy.
That's what the Chinese said and you judged to be wrong. Interesting that everyone on the Roosevelt supported the Capt. Open your eyes and ears and make intelligent observations.
Are you truly worried that your contrived enemies may find your aircraft carrier...this is 2020 not 1942. His superiors did not lose faith he ,lost faith in them, so he took action....
Think my good man....stop protecting your dream and face the facts.
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11 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:
That you would compare the two -- a justified removal and OUTRIGHT MURDER -- (all without STILL not uttering a word against the CCP) shows me everything I ever needed to know about you.
If you could read I mentioned days ago I did not trust China, we have no reason to trust them over the years. I have only pushed that you and others are blinded and unwilling to even consider that the bs coming from The Wizard of Orange has been harmful. Thank you 3M for standi g up to the bully
Justified removal....seriously, keep on marching to this Trump drum my friend.
I am not a leftist, but I do try to make honest and informed opinions.
Stay safe
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Good luck Capt. Brett of the USS Roosevelt.
You spoke out, didn't follow protocol, how dare you try to warn people, The truth must be controlled. Just like those Chinese who tried to speak the truth. Lucky you are still alive.
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59 minutes ago, Doc said:
You see the hypocrisy of this statment, right?
No, China is not a smoke screen. Their actions were and continue to be criminal and when all is said and done, they need to be dealt with severely.
And if we're going to play the second-guessing game, how many more cases do you think would have entered the US had a Dem been President and not closed the borders as soon as Trump did for fear of appearing racist? We'd be ****ed right now.
This from a country that is the biggest supporter of Saudi Arabia , the killer of journalists, degrading of women .....glass houses. Your pres says he believes them and likes the Leader of China (today)
You are typical holier than thou...xxxxxx
The wizard of orange is taking you from admiration and respectability to blowhard bully.
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2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:
And yet you IMMEDIATELY deflect to: AMERICA BAD when challenged.
That's shameful, Bill. Shameful.
And if you knew anything about me, you'd understand my argument is NOT that America is perfect. But compared to the CCP? It's not even a contest in terms of wickedness. The guys you'r bending over backwards to defend are, right now, murdering their own citizens and harvesting their organs for profit -- and that's one of the NICER things they're doing.
This is a joke...I hope you survive this bad leadership. I hope we both are here 6 months from now so we can consider China's role, but for now leadership is the issue
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34 minutes ago, Doc said:
Libs will embrace anything vile just as long as the Repubs are against them. Look at the fawning over Soleimani and al-Baghdadi. It was pathetic.
I am not a lib, I am actually a fiscal conservative. The focus on China is a smoke screen to poor performance by the Wizard of Orange,. It will potentially cost me my life, some dear friends lives across the US and hopefully not your life. Fight the commies later.
If you would have protested against the Vietnam War...then you should be questioning this leadership
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40 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:
You said all those words but didn’t address the point raised. China is not our friend. They never have been. Defending them, while they’re actively engaged in ethnic cleansing and other atrocities beyond this virus, makes no sense.
Yet you’re doing it. Going out of your way to do it, just to dunk on Trump.
You should feel ashamed. But I bet you don’t.
I do not feel ashamed...ethnic cleansing wow. How about all the WMD that was used to kill Sadam....no one us pure.
I have no love for China, especially their system of government.
What I DETEST is the waste of intelligence and time spent blaming instead of solving. If you actually understood business this is the worst approach to getting us out of 200000 deaths.
Trump is a hindrance to helping save lives in this instance and if you cannot see that you are a blind dinosaur.
The Wizard of Orange needs the curtain pulled back.
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Trump Is Just A Terrible President, Totally Unfit For The Job
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There you go again Pilgrim. Dumb dumb , so little education...but you can spell.
Hard to see the world from the basement so that explains your views.
The FBI corruption nonsense is just a good cover...any agent can do that.