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good post but we will never see the passion at OBD until we have a passionate coach.
I did not buy my season tickets this year, first since 1991 because I can no longer take the organizations lack of desire to win. Best example was Patriots game, at home last year with that play just before half when the ref did not stop the clock, or place the ball on the spot because Belicheck's boyes created that little disturbance.
Jauron showed no anger, no passion, and the fans booed him, not the refs , not the Pats.
Jauron does't get it.
He is a .500 coach for a reason...that day I decided I cannot show more passion than the organization any longer.
If jauron had thrown his clip board, if he had done anything to represent the anger and passion of the fans that day he could have held the balance of power. He did nothing. So, I told the Bills I will do nothing, I will show the same passion as Dick Jauron.
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http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/03/16/...aises-eyebrows/
BUS COOK’S BUFFALO TRIP RAISES EYEBROWS
Posted by Mike Florio on March 16, 2009, 8:31 p.m. EDT
Former Bills offensive lineman Ruben Brown disclosed during his WECK radio show on Monday that agent Bus Cook was in Buffalo.
Apparently, former Bills receiver Eric Moulds, who was represented by Cook during his playing career, mentioned to Brown that Cook was in town.
According to NFLPA records, Cook represents no players currently under contract with the Bills. Thus, speculations is centering on a possible trade of Broncos quarterback Jay Cutler or tight end Tony Scheffler, both of whom are Cook clients.
Our buddy Brad Riter of WECK thinks that Scheffler is the more likely trade target.
But, hey, it’s more fun to ponder the possibility of a new quarterback heading to town.
I think Moulds also said he saw George Seffert at the airport to.
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the only receiver i'd rather have is fitzgerald. and i am not even 100% sure about that, because i really believe the other players are going to work harder with owens here than they would with fitzgerald.
Ageed
If he can stop being a jerk and be a competitor he will force all the Bills to show up each week...something that many did not last year because Jauron is too soft.
Thw biggest problem will be for the coaches...Phillips could not handle him so how can Jauron.
At least other teams will have to game plan for hi, (although that is not too hard these days)
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Already renewed my season tickets. OL will be fine.
What planet are you on...Oline will be fine? impossible...no matter who they bring in.
What about all the claims that it takes trust and timing.
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the franchise is a pathetic bumbling dissaster, and the fans are being tortured
Anyone remianing optomisitc hasn't been paying attention...
Exactly
we have needs at WR, LB, DB, DE and this super intelligent group cut and release 3 members of the oline creating a hole that did not need to be created today. At least what we had was serviceable and we have cap space to wait for these decisions to be made AFTER you solve other bigger problems. Now good offensive FA's will not come here to play for another crappy Oline. Taylor or Coles cannot spend the time watching this coaching staff waste another yr
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There can be no reason in all of football that a team who spent 2 or 3 years rebuilding an oline and then make the declaration that 3 of the players (Preston, Fowler & Dochery) are not capable, and that their declared best (Peters) is so unhappy that he doesn't play.Brandon the gutless leader has to fire either the coach who cannot get the best from the great players he was given or fire the people Modrak and Guy, that said these were the greatest players.
These mistakes by definition cost the Bills 3 years of more losses, and will force the fans to sit through at least 1 more year of poor offensive play.
Why would a good free agent running back like Taylor or receiver like Coles come to a team and waste at least 1 year of their last 2 or 3 before they can expect to see an offensive that will not have 5 or 6 penalties each game for movement and count jumping.
I can see another year of excuses..."it takes time for an oline to gain the trust of each other etc etc etc". Crap, Crap Crap.
More jail breaks. Fitzpatrick will start 8 games because our QB is injured again.
Anyone want to buy my season tickets...this year is already a waste.
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Once again, HAMMER'S LOT is honored to host the TBD KICK AZZ Season Opener Tailgate Party.
The Parking choices. KICK AZZ, which is in the TBD Tailgate party central area.
GENERAL which is in the rest of HAMMER'S LOT less than a minute walk to the
TBD Tailgate party area.
KICK AZZ parking spaces are limited.
General spaces are not.
KICK AZZ parking starts at 6am, ends at 7am. If your not there you lose your spot if somebody else wants it.
GENERAL Parking starts at 7am.
Opening day is always craze, so to help make parking easier you MUST make/have a sign/identifier that sez TBD on it in your windshield. All signs MUST be marked by HAMMER upon arrival.
Parking spaces held till 10am unless you prepay for a parking spot (PM me for details)
Check back for updates
Check back Sept 3rd for final parking area list
THIS THREAD IS FOR TBD KICK AZZ TAILGATE PARKING LISTS ONLY....... ? PM Me
2 for me in general
thanks Hammer
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Hey, ieatcrayonz... you may want to add other reasons... why?
Cuz... aren't we all assuming this is contract & money related? Nowhere have I heard or seen attributed to Jason or his agent having publically or otherwise, officially stated that they would like to renegotiate or other. Have you?... if so, point me to that submission please.
To me... not showing up in the offseason or training camp, and worse... no communication, complete silence, no acknowledgement of communication from the Bills front office in an attempt to reach out.... this is unprecedented in Bills history and it signals to me that there may very well be something else going on here... and especially the Bills haste in moving Langston Walker to LT one week into camp. The Bills know more than they're saying.
What are the possibilities?
1) contract problems, like everyone suspects. But if that's the case why no dialogue? It doesn't make sense. In the end, if he wants more money, there has to be communication... an agreement or deal simply can't be reached without dialogue.
2) The groin injury has taken his edge off. Maybe he doesn't have the explosiveness and ability he once had and is worried that it will be exposed once he shows up. We all know the first thing he shows up, the docs are going to give him a thorough exam... even more so coming off an injury, and certainly if he wants more $$$
3) This one is touchy... and I'm not making an accusation here, but only submitting it as a possiblity given the unprecedented wall of silence by a Bills player with the media and front office. Even back in the Bruce Smith days there was banter going back & forth before he would eventually grace us with his presence. What if Jason had a positive illegal substance test... srike one.... we don't know whether he does have a strike one because that is not released and the team would not comment on that. It's a mulligan anyway. But, if he were to test positive again, when he showed up for camp, it would be strike 2 and he's be suspended for 4 games. That in itself would ruin any chance he had for a new contract. So, is it so far fetched to think that if he used an illegal substance, that he might want to wait until it leaves his system before subjecting himself to a physical? I mean absolutely no one would have suspected Nick Kaczur in what just happened to him. And, these guys are human and some deal with severe pain as a result of the pounding and injuries... one unprescribed pill to curb the pain can be devasting to player's career.
So... this whole thing is getting more strange by the day. If Jason doesn't communicate soon, this might spin out of control.
I think # 3 could be very real.
Silence by an ageent is so unusual in these circumstances, perhaps he does not want to lie publically, for his cred.
Silence does not allow you to bargain a new agreement. If it was all money their would be a great deal more diloque with the agent.
While I agree that a new contract is in line...the silence is not allowing that to happen and therefore the real issue is being hidden....must be substance, or pain killers or mental issues...it is not money IMHO
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Is he any better than Schoop?
Bring back the Tiny Tot of the Kilowatt...Arty baby
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You bad.
only a mile from my house. Cablelady...do you need a place to stay???? :-)
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OK...that topic title sounded a bit effeminate, but think about it. We were only 7-9 last year, but when was the last time you felt so good about a 7-9 team?? After several offseasons of hopelessness, I really think we're getting there.
Lovable...think about that. McGahee is gone...despite being semi-retarded, he had the personality of a turtle. Spikes was good, but he was a DORK. His lame dances weren't a tenth as entertaining as the little jigs we got out of Bruce and Biscuit. Fletcher was the epitome of mediocrity...on and off the field. Clements had the IQ of a lump of coal, and the personality to go with it. Peerless SUCKED, and liked running his mouth in the locker room...even after we gave him his second chance.
Whitner has class, character and all the qualities of a leader. Marshawn Lynch is amazing as a player...and has one of the coolest, most upbeat personalities I've seen in the NFL. Evans is class, despite taking some crap for speaking his mind last year. Poz is the perfect role model, and the kind of guy we all hope our daughters bring home someday. Edwards has the poise, and the brain. I could go on and on...but I LOVE this team.
OK...so Roscoe got a DUI. If thats as "naughty" as this team gets, I'm pretty happy with that...they guy is young, and it was a stupid mistake. I will give him the benefit of the doubt until it happens twice.
Anway...I know, none of this matters until we make the playoffs. But, it matters to me...
Loveable....ditch those terrible Donahoe uniforms and bring back the real colors and add the red endzones to the Ralph and then they will be loveable.
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How dare you insult Lonnie Johnson in such a way.
Hey, Lonnie is going to have a break out game this year....
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Has anyone looked into tickets for HOF in august to see TT be inducted.
I am looking for 4 tickets.
go Bills
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I actually sent an e mail to Marv after he was hired and asked him to return the red endzones...that bright red was wonderful sight every time you ealked through the tunnels to your seat...
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This was not just about JP. or the O line or McGee, it was about 2 specific issues that shows our Bills were not ready to play.
After 2 disasters against the Bearsd and Lions, the D was not ready to start this game and on the first O play Willis, after an easy 8 yards runs out of bounds rather than take on a 180 pound DB.
No one on this team wants to play the game of football. All of them want to let someone else sacrifice themselves.
Character...be dammed I want players who are willing tt hurt the other team, fairly not after the play (see Kelsay).
I want players who care as much as I do...I hate NE, I hate the Dolfags, I hate the Lions, I hate the Jets, I hate every team that comes to the Ralph.
It seems that Jauron and his pansies do not.
I will not miss a game, and I will hate the visitors, but I do not like the home team anymore until they show some guts.
ps...while I appreciate and support the efforts to cure breast cancer (I lost my mother to the awful illness) there is no way that PINK should be part of a football scene where anger and violence are part of the successful mix for victory. Pre game is not about weeping...pre game is not about reflective thought, pre game is about wanting to kick a??
The Bills organization has GOT to develop a passion for the game.
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5 04 here and I am packing the collers and will be leaving @ 6 am
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on his long touchdown....
Little Zacky Baby the over hyped, pint sized, Dolfag...He was washed up 3 years ago and should be a Patsy now along with Jr.
Makes my heart feel good to see that these TV guys can't turn him into a god just because he is such a little cutey..
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And if pre season game 2 Holcomb also starts then as I mentioned at the beginning of this thread...you may as well cut Losman. (aside from the cap issues)
If Losman does not have the mental ability to beat out Holcomb now, he never will... it is not about physical ability....we all know who wins that one.
the only reason Losman is not playing is because he cannot think...and Holcomb is no rocket scientist...
I want Losman to win this battle and most of us would say find out if he can play.
Well, if you cannot let him start and play most of the preseason game when the hell will you let him play.
Why would a coaching staff waste a season game when they will not even waste a preseason game....
Jauron calls this a scrimmage...then let Losman play, unless you are getting Holcomb ready to play the season and in such case this battle is over.
I say if he is not the clear leader by this time next week then it is time to move on.
The coaches are back doing what MM did...
either commit to him or not
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midget football game on the field next to the Ralph before the Bills/Browns game. The kids get to dress in the Bills locker room and whoever wins gets a trophy presented by Marv Levy and possibly other Bills...
Very exciting for me and my 2 kids! Wish us luck...we are the Westside Panthers from Jamestown, NY...we'll be in Yellow and Black.
Do they play Quarterback???????.....Marv may sign them if they can throw the ball more than 5 yards
seriously, this is terrific and I can see why you would be so proud...
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It has been 3 official team workouts, many optional workouts, and 2 weeks of officil training camp and JP cannot distinquish himself as superior to Holcomb. To me that equals trouble.
IMHO if Holcomb is the QB at this point we had better begin to panic. I understand that the coaches need to satisfy the competitive spirit of the other 52 rooster players, but since we all know that winning with KH is near impossible then unless someone can surpass him easily I am afraid we are in for a Gary Marangi type year.
I belief that the Bills should cut Losman if he cannot beat out Holcomb by the second preseason game. We are wasting our time.
I equate this batttle to any running back who cannot beat out Shaud Williams by the 2nd preseason game also should be cut because we all know that if Williams is your second choice for a back (after Willis) then you may as well mail in the season.
IMHO
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I sent an e mail tobulldog tonight and told him I was ashamed of him....
Schoop I expect that petty stuff from...Bulldog should be above that ...
Joe Torre carries a lineup card every night and he hss the same players for 162 games.
WGR has again crossed the line...
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I couldn't agree more. I work in law enforcement and deal with drunks and idiots all night long. This is not a good move. Your formula is exactly right and although I don't have some study to cite, my personal experience tells me that more beer earlier in the day is not going to help anyone. Bills games are a great experience but the rowdiness is something that I'm sure almost all of us rational individuals could do without.
DJG
Maybe you should go to a game.
I have tailgated at 7 am for many years and never have any problems with drunks or people who are there erly.
Most early people are friends who cook great meals and enjoy the experience.
The lst few years with the 4 hour rule there was no reduction in drunks at the game. Check out the bus lot and you can buy anything you want...any drug in the open and they do not get there before 10 or 11.
All the trouble is after the game. And that comes from the buses and the booze sold in the game.
I have written the Bills many times about this and even the Buffalo News.
I hope they do a story about the bus lot to show where the drunks come from.
8 am sure helps the real tailgaters, now we can go back to cooking turkeys and roasts and still have time to visit with friends and discuss the days game.
Thanks to the Bills for recognizing that many of their fans are serious and relible and just because you tailgate at 7 am doesn't mean you are a drunk.
If there is a better place to be than looking over the stadium as the sun rises on a crisp November morning, with good friends and good football talk, fire burning, BBQ on, Bills flag flying.....I don't know where that would be.
Go Bills
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best Bills bar is in New York City
MacFaddens 2nd Ave and 42nd St
Massive crowds for every game, I travel to NYC every year just see watch a game there with these great fans.
More details on the NYC Bills backers site..
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I think you are overestimating your importance in this game by referring to yourself as a "pawn". Pawns are in the game, we are not. Ralph's heirs and their estate attorneys are going to decide what to do and it won't matter what we do or say or what the press does or says. Economic reality is going to decide it or some white knight who maybe wants to do Buffalo a favor like Golisano.
While I support your logic abbout the business reality, I still believe we are a pawn...Ralph and the NFL keep trying to use us to make their point thus pulling us into the game. That is why I mentioned just leave in the middle of the night..I will not play the game and will give up my tickets if Ralph and the NFL continue to use me in their game. Maybe Ursay saved the Colts fans a lot of heart ache..
They should either do it behind closed doors or move...I have had enough of the emotional rollercoaster... I just want to talk football, JP, Nall, McGahee, Ko, Coy, & TKO...
NFL teams using Facebook to investigate draft prospects
in The Stadium Wall Archives
Posted
so 2009
People who we do not know who they are investigating people who they think they know who they are in a fantasy world of facebook.
Sounds like the Bills
Bills have been living in a fantasy world for many years