Niagara Bill
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1 hour ago, All_Pro_Bills said:
So apply those lessons of the past to current scenarios you believe look similar and assume a similar outcome if you don't act? Kind of hypothetical based on your assessment that you can accurately forecast the future. What if you're wrong and acting now makes the future worse than if you did nothing? What if acting now leads to nuclear war that destroys humanity 5 years from now. What if not acting leads to world peace and prosperity for the foreseeable future? You can't know the answer. So its an unknown risk either way.
That is why professional soldiers, intelligence and elected officials get paid the big bucks. They need to make the best decision for all, Americans, Europe, Ukraine, the future. Too bad that politics at home influence too much.
Local politics affected millions of deaths in 1939, 1940.
29 minutes ago, sherpa said:Waiting, or at least not using the direct military option worked pretty well against this same adversary during the Cuban Missile Crisis.
True, but Russia never killed one person. What would Kennedy had done if Russia invaded Cuba, even with Cuba being an enemy.
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40 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:
I asked about American strategic interests. What is so important to risk a nuclear exchange and the lives of our military personnel to get involved in a direct confrontation? What strategic asset or support does Ukraine supply to America? What difference in the lives of American's would it make if Ukraine was independent, or aligned with the West, or aligned with Russia?
Will Russia ever be weaker than right now. Waiting never makes sense unless one of two positions are known.
1. You are not prepared or capable today...
2. The conflict duration and goal is known and acceptable
America will be affected, see 1939 to 1942.
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47 minutes ago, Jackalope89 said:
WW2 Pope Pius XII was in the middle of Fascist Italy, Hitler's closest ally. But though he didn't say much publicly (not that he could), he still worked behind the scenes to save hundreds of thousands.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Pius_XII_and_the_Holocaust
And, no. It would not be "equally important". A fair number of Christian sects don't even consider Catholics in general to be Christians. And the Orthodox Catholics don't see the Pope as the leader of the church. The closest they have, would be someone like Patriarch Filaret in Ukraine. Or Kirill in Russia.
Never suggested he was the leader of Othodox Catholics, and there are no Christian who do not consider RC non Christian except for political church crapola.
The Pope didn't speak up in WW2 to a nation who supported him! What is he afraid to die? No. Leaders who remain silent in a crisis are not leaders. Christ spoke up. Stories of help years later is nothing more that PR nonsense.
It is amazing that many religious leaders can speak out about poverty, genocide in Africa, disease in the slums of Rio, but cannot condemn genocide 1000 Miles from their front door.
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3 hours ago, Jackalope89 said:
Er, you do realize the Pope is Roman Catholic while most Ukrainians are Orthodox Catholic, right?
And yes, that is quite the difference.
Er, very true, but still Christian Catholic,. Since the Pope was silent during WW2 while Hitler did his thing, I thought this was important.
It would be equally important if Ukraines were Baptist, or Protestant vs the anti religion of the communists.
Generally the Pope takes decades to listen to all his advisors and waits fir a sign, or lightning bolt or such.
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The Pope finally spoke up today....amazing since most Ukrainians are catholic.
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4 hours ago, sherpa said:
They're spreading nothing except disdain and repulsion for their gov and their military.
The world's desire to embrace Russian style communism is about as popular as covid.
They are being publicly humiliated across international borders.
This disgraceful exercise is going to cost them dearly.
There are a few nations who embrace them. They are not humiliated, they cannot be humiliated, they don't think like you. They don't care. People don't want dictators and Communism, it is pushed on them. The court of public opinion has no vote.
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On 3/23/2022 at 1:32 PM, sherpa said:
There is quite a difference between the two.
The Ukrainians are demonstrating intense national pride and defending themselves in every manner possible, and doing a pretty good job getting their story out.
That gets peoples attention and support.
The Afghan military, if ever there was such a thing, never did that.
I was watching a youtube from a guy whose opinion I hold in high regard.
He went on a special forces mission in Afghanistan with US troops.
Long story short, they were with Afghan troops and those folks were asked, "why don't you fight these guys," and the response was, "That's the US' job."
They simply didn't care.
They remain a tribal culture with a "next dollar gets my allegiance," attitude, and no national identity to point to or rally around.
Their light speed collapse proved that.
Loss of life is sad on any scale, but it is human nature to support people you identify with, and I'm not talking race or culture.
There us a big difference. Afghans fighting Afghans. Versus a friendly sovereign nation being overwhelmed by another nation who happens to be spreading Communism.
The west should be more concerned if the spread.
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I vote to send Hunter B to investigate. He is a worldly know it all who knows the Ukraine Russian sympathizer crooks. Such a brave man as he has demonstrated. No one would miss him except a few procecutors.
Just sayin'. 😁
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Not sure if was said but
WHERE WOULD YOU RATHER BE THAN RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW!
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12 minutes ago, sherpa said:
Could it be that someone saw that horrible Utica Club commercial he did in the 60's?
Sent from my rotary phone using my right index finger.
Did UC that!
I watched it with Schultz and Dooly
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3 hours ago, L Ron Burgundy said:
Eh, loved might be a bit much. Ukraine is a fairly corrupt country though theyd been making progress. Were they loved someone would have already stepped in more actively. I know that's harsh but just keeping it real.
Canada has thousands of Ukrainian immigrants over past 75 years. Very successful. Assimilation has been incredible. There is no crime syndicate.
Corruption came to Ukraine with Russia connections.
Ukraine cannot get out from under the Russia shadow because of grain, minerals and power production.
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9 hours ago, Big Blitz said:
What? Are you talking about the 1934 famine?
Stalin and communism killed ALL Russians. Yes especially Ukrainians that resisted the commies in 1917.
This is not the same.
Actually wait.....yes. Maybe it is like Vietnam or Afghanistan or even Israel!
We'll find the descendants of the first Kievan Rus that sailed along the Dneiper River and settled Kiev and their "rightful" claims to Russia. Make sure we get all the ethnicities right and claims correct.
Ukraine had 4 million die when Stalin took all their grain and food😀
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18 minutes ago, sherpa said:
Not to quibble, but I doubt the Ukraine has the ability to employ weapons that would penetrate Russia, and the effort might be catastrophic for the rest of the world.
Name specifics, 'cause that's where the rubber meets the road.
Genocide to a Christian nation, to a nation loved and trusted for 100 years by the west is being terrorized. We defended Afghans for goodness sake. We defended Vietnam, WTF are we doing. If this was Italy what would we do.
Putin must be stopped. NOW. Remember 1938.
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Putin is now mouthing off, what he us going to do, he is worried...it is time for NATO to take action. Genocide is not acceptable in our society. 4 million Ukrainians died in 1932/33 because of Russia. It is time for Russia to pay. Ukraine must be given weapons that will strike inside Russia. Putin must be unseated.
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10 hours ago, ALF said:
Housing Choice Vouchers , if they break the law or abuse private housing they lose that voucher.
Stop calling the US a communist country. At least we keep trying to find solutions.
1. Government will never enforce rules. The have rules today and ignore them, including limited term limits in the buildings and 20 yrs later people still there.
2. In efforts to help, dome programs such as public housing are communistic in nature. All western cultures have tendencies this way. If not communistic then socialistic. (Fanny Mae and Freddy Mac).
I do not think any of us try to solve this issue, but the unintended fall out of a cultural nature is doing damage.
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40 minutes ago, ALF said:
Housing Choice Vouchers Fact Sheet
The housing choice voucher program is the federal government's major program for assisting very low-income families, the elderly, and the disabled to afford decent, safe, and sanitary housing in the private market. Since housing assistance is provided on behalf of the family or individual, participants are able to find their own housing, including single-family homes, townhouses and apartments.https://www.hud.gov/topics/housing_choice_voucher_program_section_8
Ok, so you can read a US government doc, the rest of the world exists as well. The question is should government be in the housing business, be landowners and landlords. Seems rather communistic. It has been a failure and produced a culture that has led to racism, drug dependence, crime, poor education etc.
How did we all get here? Should we get out of the business?
I say yes, get out.
What say you?
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44 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:
Is it me or have you moved further to the right lately?I have always been fiscal conservative. Never left, often centrist. I hate religious interloping into politics, I hate religious hypocrites of the far right, I believe in freedom, including freedom of women to choose. I I believe in helping my neighbor, I think LGBQ Yada Yada is ok. I believe in equality, hate racism, hate BLM.
43 minutes ago, ALF said:So your solution is massive homelessness ? Niagara Bill tells California to hold my beer.
Not talking solution, not that smart, but public housing creates more issues than it solves. Do you have solutions to the public housing issues? Would you live there and feel safe.
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13 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:
Most lay people don’t know it but in many, if not all, public housing projects most of the things on your list are dictated by the contracting office. The ‘design’ architect has very little freedom. Sad really, but it’s done that way to control costs and establish standards.
I understand your point, which is exactly why government should get out of the shoe box housing business, or be creative. I know that tax payers would scream at good design, but without it the cultural creations we have will only grow. Self sustaining poverty, crime, and drug dens. How stupid we are.
Do small cities have similar problems?
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1 minute ago, Buffalo Timmy said:
To the OP: it started in the New Deal, at least in US, and was on the face to protect people who could not find housing on their own. As always once the government gets involved cost skyrocket and efficiency dies.
Worse, they gave created a culture that society has to come to grips with.
Time fir government to get out of housing. That is Communism,
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45 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:
Tibs: Another resident internet expert. No…I lecture all over the country on design…and yes it matters. What I said is that the scope and budget parameters of a government housing project are not established by the Architect. The architect is given a density, a budget, and all sorts of maintenance and material requirements that must be met. The architect takes those parameters and makes the project BETTER, not worse. Good design can do wonders, but it has its limits
Of course design is important, size of hallways, parking, green, doorways, outdoor space, balcony, lighting, direction, window size, colors.
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Original question, why do cities become landlords.
Cities gave rules so deep for contractors but all city built properties fail in cultural ways and government has money to burn ( see football stadiums). WTF
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Seems to be locations privide more than their share of crime suspects, drug users and education shortfalls. That is not to say that many do not succeed, but a higher percentage of failure.
I am surprised that a political party cannot be honest enough to face this.
Often these locales have their own cultures, which do not run parallel to much of the rest of the city.
They also seems to take an increasing percentage of municipal and state/ provincial budgets. No government should be a landlord.
It is unsustainable.
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After reading about our new budget jn Canada, I was brought to refect about the promise for new public housing.
I know that many many cities in Canada and US have public housing.
When did this start? Why does government want to own housing?
Obviously a left agenda, but does it work.
Every effort in this regard seems to eventually end up to be impoverished neighborhoods, crime ridden, run terribly by a public organization, policing problems and safety issues. Even right mayor's accept this phenomenon.
This never seems to be an election issue on the right yet the dollars are poorly spent.
Any comments?
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Just now, Coffeesforclosers said:
Putin's savvy, calculating strategic genius at work. Letting your enemy know that if you stop fighting, you'll be murdered, and your wife and children will be raped and/or murdered, or tortured and imprisoned.
It is time Ukraine was given weapons that would strike inside Russia. Time for Moscow to feel pain. Russian citizens are cowardly and need a reason to make a decision.
Either fight a war or Zelensky should resign and allow communists to run Ukraine. Limited wars do not work for anyone. Need I create the list.
Time for sanctions to include no international travel for any Russian citizen. Time to deport any Russian visitors. Time to arrest Putin family members outside Russia. Time to arrest Oligarchy members, not just their money.
We are watching genocide. There is no fight for territory. There is just genocide.
I have a few friends who are Russian heritage. They are very quiet. I have friends who are Ukrainian heritage, they cry, they are angry, they send money, they apply to take in relatives.
The time is here I think.
Putin is no genius. Hitler was no genius. Putin just hates like Hitler did. History will show it, but that does not stop this.
3 hours ago, Tiberius said:https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/04/06/russia-ukraine-war-news-putin-live-updates/
Health care and access to it are a key dividing line between the good and the bad people. The bad people do all they can to stop, impede or destroy greater access to health care. On the extreme right is Putin bombing hospitals but those GOP governor blocking their own citizens from greater access to Obamacare just represent the degree they can get away with in stopping health care from fully operating
Wow, no wonder politicians cannot agree with logic like this. I am not sure I have ever seen a more extreme position. Putin and Hitler = no Obamacare...wholly crapola.
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RIP Daryle Lamonica
in The Stadium Wall
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12 game season I think