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Niagara Bill

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  1. 6 minutes ago, HamSandwhich said:

    Still no answers, just trying to avoid the question. There is a hell of a lot of catching up to do to catch nearly 💯 of those who are aborted die. Also, you can be pro-life for babies AND pro-life for kids in classes, I disagree with the issue. It’s all about mental illness but you probably don’t want to discuss the actual issue. 

    You never discuss, you only preach. Honest thought understands abortion my not be pleasant but required in circumstances, like the right to end your own life, allowed in many countries.

    Death penalty in crime is ok but not other forms?

    Mental illness is certainly a major cause of gun deaths but other causes are availability, the cause of mental illness in society like certain violent video games in early childhood, or internet trolls, parental culture, racism etc.

    Don't accuse me of avoiding, read your own posts and when you stop only defending your thought, then discussion is possible.

    Until then a little humor helps. 

  2. 4 hours ago, LeGOATski said:

    The only way to arm them would be through genetic modification. I don't think anyone is there yet.

     

     

     

     

    Yes, I'm taking this super serious.

    Can't. No invitro allowed😀😉

    3 hours ago, HamSandwhich said:

    What’s the chances of a being killed in a school? What’s the percentage of an abortion working and killing the baby? 
     

    Your logic fails. 

    Chances are increasing, but at least you can't vape yourself to death with Juul.😉

    1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said:

    I believe you’ll find that the yet-born already have arms…and legs…and everything else needed to make a human being. Done.

    Can we determine political preferences, may change some people's decision on anti/pro position.😉

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  3. 4 hours ago, Demongyz said:

    Even RBG thought Roe was trash.  It's not based on law.

    The 2nd amendment should be cause for the SCOTUS to overturn any law restricting firearms.

    If a state decides to ban invitro fertilization, I suppose they could, but the feds could not.  It seems to be a bit misguided, it's not like killing babies, it's creating babies.

    I think a state should be able to ban doctors from performing trans surgeries just like I think a state can allow it.  I'm against mutilating people because of their gender dysmorphia, but I suppose that is their choice.  The difference as I see it between the two is that a fetus has unique DNA separate from both parents.  It is a human life and thus should be protected.

    I do not see how they can have it both ways. You argument is bordering on religion . Some Christian beliefs are different than others. If AR 15 are ok, then translate invitro, etc should be to. Roe v Wade was not bad law, just needed regulations. Much like guns. Most people are responsible with guns. Most are responsible with abortion, then you get wackos.

    Whether a female gets pregnant with a dick or needle she is still pregnant.

    I personally detest gun owners who misuse guns for other than reasonable sport or protection. I detest people who get abortions at 5 6 7 8 months for no reason. 

    America has no reasonable position on either.

    Another generation coming of hate, violence, religious crap, NRA vitriol, and nothing else. 

    Thank goodness I am likely to miss most of it.

     

     

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  4. 6 minutes ago, Demongyz said:

    Religion doesn't need to be a part of the decision.  1st there was no federal law on abortion passed by congress, Roe V Wade created law and that isn't the job of the court.  It had to fall.

     

    It is the states that set the law, the feds need to be reduced to what is outlined in the constitution and nothing more.

    Why are they not able to rule. The constitution clearly gives equal rights to all. Rightly it does mention age, and likely it was not even considered pre birth, but clearly the court now interrupt unborn equal to everyone, in every way. I am sure the constitution never meant to interrupt AR15s etc but the letter of the law us upheld  over new and expanding gun types. So by comparison does not the constitution have to take into consideration invitro, trans people, etc. 

    If they can see a 6 week gap in abortion should they not see a single shot musket vs AR15.

     

  5. 19 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

    I'm not a defender per se, but want to jump in here. 

     

    First, I acknowledge there was a time  I never saw this day coming.  Abortion is such a minefield of emotion, money, power, sexual identity and politics I just never thought I would see the day that Roe v Wade was overturned.  To take that one step further, I used to think that the concept of a full-term child being aborted was reserved for a few select crazies in the world, and I was wrong on that, too.   What a fascinating world we live in where a woman isn't necessarily a woman, a man could be, and the choices offered are supposedly reduced to "kill at will" and "Nope, not never".  

     

    My initial response to your question is this:  It seems, as has been discussed many times by conservatives and liberals alike, that Roe v Wade was improperly decided and thus was bad law.    

     

    If so, it seems to me that politicians of every stripe should be preaching, in unison, to constituents that it was bad law and that the ability to correct it rests directly with both leaders in Congress and constituents who vote.   Put another way, simply because the law was overturned does not mean that our nation's today has to represent our tomorrow.  

     

    The reality is that this issue is used as a hammer to divide people.  It's not as if yesterday, last week, last month or last year it was not a divisive issue.  It's been so for as long as I can recall, and folks--men and women---vote what's important to them.  This theory that the suburbs are lost seems a but premature imo.  

     

    I'm also reminded that as much as I dislike it, as a citizen I'm bound to honor and live under the leadership of Biden and the democrats at this point.   The people voted, the results tallied, the arguments raged, but in the end, here we are.  Suddenly though, some would have us believe that the laws and rules put in place by elected state leaders have no relevance or simply aren't good enough.  Those people tend to be on the opposite side of the political spectrum than those holding power. 

     

    In the end, while it's good or not, if it was bad law, the opportunity to fix it is now.  It has long been screamed from the highest rooftops that the vast majority of Americans support abortion as an option to terminate a pregnancy.   I guess my response now is...let's see what happens next. 

     

     

    Your points are logical and even soothing. Middle ground must be found.

    But in reading your thoughts it came into my mind that the same thoughts on gun issues need to follow this path. 

    The world has changed, Trans, invitro, etc. Guns gave changed in 200 yrs. 

    Seems hard liners fight and middle Americans suffer.

  6. So, if possession of a fire arm, for individual and property protection is allowed under the constitution as has been ruled then consider.

    A week ago a BY Rzbferx Dan vest the crap out of a TB fan infront of a huge crowd. Why can't a person take a gun into the game. Would that not stop senseless violence. 

    How can restriction of the gun rights be over ruled in a public space?

  7. 1 minute ago, HappyDays said:

     

    I've never understood this exception argument. Just about every pro-life individual I've ever talked to is anti-abortion because they believe fetuses are persons. If that is the case it shouldn't matter how the fetus came to be. The choices of the mother that led to the pregnancy should have exactly zero bearing on the supposed person's right to exist. The fact that so many pro-life people agree with the rape exception tells me that deep down they know abortion isn't really killing a person. They know that the women have some level of autonomy in that decision.

    I think they see themselves in that situation. The rest is straight religious views. I hope they believe in the rest of the commandments with the same vigor.  

  8. 10 minutes ago, Demongyz said:

    Unless it comes to a vaccine?

     

    The federal government doesn't have to consider a fetus a person, but states can.  If a pregnant woman gets punched in the stomach and loses the baby should the assailant be prosecuted for murder? 

     

    I'm not saying mothers should give up organs to save their child, but I would say a good mother would.

     

    No, people should not be forced to donate organs, but they should.

     

    No, I don't think a mother should be forced to carry the baby to term if it would mean the death of the mother, but I would recommend attempting to deliver the baby alive instead of decapitating it then delivering it.  End the pregnancy, not the life in all possible cases.

    But it is the feds who set the law...so now you say that a fetus is not a person in their eyes? How can the feds have it both ways. The only way a law of anti abortion rights is to assume the fetus is a person.

    Or are they taking a religious approach and inforcing religious beliefs.

     

  9. What an incredible day.

    One branch of the government entrenched the ability for all to carry guns, where ever, whenever.

    Another says, but maybe not if you are a bad guy or mentally unstable, judged by the same guys who say you can

    And yet another says no vaping with Juul because maybe, maybe it might harmful to your health.

    Truly amazing. 

     

  10. Why oh why oh why.....do people insist on referring to Mayfield as Baker. 

    Greats in many sports have earned the status of being referred to by one name, usually their first, with the total sports world knowing exactly who they are in their era.

    Kobe, Magic, Emmitt, Troy, Peyton, Michael, Mick, Jimbo, Bruce, Thurman, Reggie, Deion.

    and maybe soon Josh, or Aaron (Judge), Patrick (Mahomes).

     

    But when did this guy Mayfield obtain or earn that status, here and in the press. Certainly not from playing success, maybe from his arrogance when he came into the league and legendary? attitude to others, or now the pity everyone feels about how one of the worst franchises in the NFL is treating him and how suddenly how humble he has become (good for him showing class). 

    Whatever the reason, I think it is disrespectful to those classy players who earned legendary status...IMHO. (just something that bugs me, sorry for the rant)🙃

     

  11. Let's take him out to dinner at Mulberry Italian in Lackawana fir a giant meatball. That is where he could have been without his football talent and exceptional drive. 

    Great career, always stepped up in big games. 

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  12. 48 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said:

    Lets pump the brakes.  We still don't know the length of suspension that the NFL plans to impose on Watson.

    Nothing like waiting until you see the wind direction before you make the call. That is real leadership. 🙄 we don't know if any suspension is going to occur.

    This is not he said she said. 24 claims...what they all met on the dark web to conspire. 

    Browns fans should refuse to attend games. Then let's see what reaction happens. 

    BTW, if this was a 3rd string cb, he would have been gone. 

     

  13. 15 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

     

    Brady has had to compete agaisnt far better athletes all over the field, not just other QBs.  Yet he has dominated for many years, still well ahead of the field (in QB terms) at age 44 a year ago.

     

    Ruth faced a bunch of ham and Eggers most of the time. He looks like he was taking BP in those old films.  A far superior athlete in Barry Bonds had to subsequently  get jacked on steroids to hit more HRs than Ruth because he was regularly facing far better starters and closers (didn't really exist in Ruth's day) than existed in Ruth's day. Ruth doesn't get 30 HR facing pitchers of Bonds's heyday.  Curt Schilling, Pedro, Glavine, Maddux, Smoltz (on one team!), Clemens......Randy Johnson would have destroyed Ruth.  

    Every other player in the league faced the same ham and eggers

  14. 2 hours ago, Tiberius said:

    Oh, you are happy he got us closer to China? 

    He did not end Nam, it went on and on under his promise to end it 

    He was our last drunk president 

    Strong? Getting his ass kicked out of office Strong? 

    Checkers, lol, where he promised he wasn’t corrupt? 

    Alger Hiss was not a spy 

    A lot of your corporations did well in China dealings and citizens lives improved with cheaper goods. We learned from China like we learned from Japan. And all this came after McCarthy condemned half the country.

     

    Seriously tibs, only repubs have spys? And you do not like dogs. 

     

     

  15. 2 hours ago, Tiberius said:

    You don't think he did anything wrong by trying to stop, with force, the election certification? 

     

    You think he is innocent of a crime, correct? 

    If it was 1972, 

    1. Trump could never be elected 

    2. If he was the country would be 90% in favor of kicking him out, fined and maybe jailed. Nixon spent his time trying to stop rioting over the war, Trump tried to create it, or at least supported it. Nixon crime was minor.

    3. The country has lost trust that the legal system is honest. Much of the culture of poor, drug, violent, rioters from the cities hate the police and judiciary except they want Trump charged? The other side of the culture who support rule of law, freedoms, less government want the laws to deal with looters and rioters, but not their rioters because they don't want it to be seen as a riot, just a small protest.

    The country cannot win...

    The US needs a leader, a unifier. 

    Trump us a divider, Biden is a divider.

  16. 4 hours ago, Tiberius said:

    Really? You like his price controls policy? His criminality? Expanding wars were were suppose to be getting out of? 

     

    What was so good about him? 

    China policy.

    Ending Vietnam War

    Cared about the nation, not just his party. 

    Could walk and chew gum to unlike any of the past 3 prez.

    Was strong and respectful, something which was totally missing for 14 years now.

    Checkers

     

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  17. This week, 50 yrs ago, a couple of crazed Cubans, close friends of H. Howard Hunt (of grassy knoll fame), for a few 100 dollar bills, decided to party at the Watergate late one evening. The beginning of the end for Richard Millhouse. While IMHO, Nixon was otherwise a great Prez, he was at least honorable, respected the law even while violating it. In the end he loved his country and did what was best. (He was loved by many, including Alex P. Keaton.)

    Real press did their jobs. Many experienced Deep Throat's commitment long before the Lewinsky theory.

    An era when it was natural not to lie, not to make up alternate theories. When WH counsel John Dean worried about being believed as he told the truth.

    Nixon should have gone into history as a great Prez. In my mind, he was.

     

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