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Pfff. I've "heard" a lot of things first here, especially lately. Guy projects as one of the best tight ends to come out in years and has zero injury concerns currently. I'm sure you'll be back to eat your words if you're wrong though right?

Oh god please no.

He's been lowered by some yes. Still a good player from a great program; I am just a bit sour on drafting injured/potentially injured players given recent history.

Ugh why J Allen? He of 2 arthritic shoulders?

Good stuff. I love TG on twitter - he gets a lot of salt thrown his way but very entertaining. No mention of Whaley?

It sounds like she went to Conley's room alone with him; 2 other people (who it sounds like she also did not know) were in the room already. Whoever she was with did not accompany her. Again, sketchy reports so take it with a grain of salt. Which is why it is a little unbelievable that so many people here are already assuming it's a false claim/money grab.

Lotta assumptions flying around based on basically nothing.

Probably a function of the attitude towards the position in general around the league. Ex-starters still looking for work too.

Gotcha. Yeah if that was their thought process it makes sense. I hope the faith in JWill is well founded though.

Great point - that slipped my mind. Factoring that in I'm inclined to agree. They did lose Bennett though.

More of an unknown at this point than demonstrably true/false.

They might still lose butler, and be replacing him with gilmore. They will be replacing blount with burkhead/gillislee. I don't think your contention is that clear cut yet.

It's funny because Whaley seems so cavalier with draft picks with certain moves, then does this with Gillislee. I don't know what it means, but it doesn't appear that he has a cohesive strategy (as opposed to a team like Green Bay, for example).

I think everyone here (minus the idiots) feel for the guy and hope he's okay. I have no ill will for cyrus i think he'll be fine. Unless i am missing something this was one incident? Whatever. Still cool with me glad he's on the team.

Pfff. You assuming he is "sick" or has some sort of mental disorder based on initial reports of an isolated incident is more insensitive (and arrogant) than people joking about it chief.

Ha you have no idea about the kid's mental state or condition at the time, or if drugs or any other illegality was involved. So way to jump to a stupid conclusion. Trouble? He wasn't even arrested.

If anything, hopefully this will motivate Whaley to really hit the books these last few days before the draft. Don't screw up!

Well that's dark.

Seconded.

You're obviously still participating in your thread, so why not fix your title?

Better add "apparent" to the thread title to appease these conspiracy theorists.

Easy to say a replacement backup RB can simply be drafted late, but that would require ignoring how good MG has been. Various advanced stat places rank MG up there as the most efficient RB in the league. Burkhead, another Pats target, is generally right behind him. DVOA and other advanced stats measuring efficiency can be skewed by sample size sure, but it is highly telling that the Pats roll out of another championship season targeting these 2 guys. MG may actually be worth the extra $$$.

I think the right time for firing Whaley this year has come and gone. What exactly does a new GM do brought on right after the draft do? Work on signing all the rookies he had no hand in drafting?

Yes he absolutely needs to draft better. I was not trying to suggest otherwise.

The press leaks haven't been kind to Whaley, especially in the national coverage. Those paint the whole ship in a bad light. But overall, Whaley's been pretty decent from a strict personnel standpoint. Moreso in free agency than the draft, but still. I think the current narrative is Whaley's had his wings clipped by ownership (and perhaps Brandon, and the head coaches, who have all been owner-hired) and thus doesn't really wield that much power anymore. If that's true, then sure he ranks towards the bottom, simply by reason of being ineffectual.