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    Lack of talent on offense is worrying. Good luck Allen

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    24 minutes ago, XABI64 said:

    Beane has basically given little attention to the playmaking positions this offseason. We went defense heavy again in the draft and we signed Brown and Beasley simply because without them we had the worst WR group in the league. Zay Jones doesn't belong in the NFL and beyond that we have little depth at the WR position. 

     

    We have no real TE threat, Singletary is a mystery we have no idea what he can do as the starter. And on top of all that the oline still looks disjointed as ever. 

    Yawn, SOS different day!

    JOSH ALLEN post game thread

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    2 hours ago, Elite Poster said:

     

    No I just don't want someone to come out of the woodworks and say, "YOUR ONLY SAYING THIS BECAUSE YOU HATE HIM", because I am not afraid to say, yes, I didn't like the pick at all.

     

    I don't even think he had a bad night, just really one horrific play that I don't ever need to see again. 

     

    Situational football. It was 2nd and 4, throw it away, they teach that in high school. Nobody even mentioned Sam Darnold so I have no idea where that came from. That was a Jamarcus Russell level bad play. Josh can't do that, period. 

     

    I'm fine, maybe you should calm down. 

    Marino, Elway, Montana, Manning, none of the greats have "EVER" thrown a "BAD" interception; only Josh Allen. Most serious football fans do not get wrapped around the axle like you seem to be!

    9 minutes ago, DuckyBoys said:

    Either the coaching staff is very confident in where Josh is at or we missed a opportunity last night to get him more ready.  Run run pass all night was a waste of time.  Do Gore and Shady really need any work?  How are you going to work on the run game if you are on the #3 center and your RT is not playing either? Well one good thing is all the Josh haters get to vent

    Yup!

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    Worried about McD

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    50 minutes ago, PlayoffsPlease said:

    I think it is fair to say that McDermott is the most beloved 15-17 w-l record coach in the NFL today.  Maybe for all time. 

    Are you really a football fan? Come on, be honest!

    One of the all time "stupid" posts ever!

    D&C's Maiorana: Top 100 Players In Bills History

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    8 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

    Seems fairly reasonable.  I would have liked to see Bobby Chandler and Ahmad Rashad on there.  Frank Lewis and Don Beebe too.  But these lists are tough to do.

    I want Mailon Kent on there somewhere ha ha! You are probably the only one who knows the name!

     

    3 minutes ago, Helpmenow said:

    No chandler that is a friggin joke. This guy caught fergys sidelines passes better than anyone

    Will grant please.

     

    frank Lewis is another. Wtf

    Good post - I agree!

    Your first Bills game

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    Chiefs at War Memorial Stadium September 1966, MIke Garrett's debut and the Bills got bombed 42 - 20; returned January 1, 1967 for the AFL Championship game the Bills got bombed 31 - 7 and the Chiefs went to the first "World Championship" now known as the Super Bowl!

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    Your first Bills game

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    2 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

    1969 home opener at War Memorial vs  Joe Namath and the Jets, fresh off their Super Bowl win. Bills lost 33-19.  OJ Simpson's debut. 10/35 rushing 1 TD. 2/65 receiving.

    I was at that game; OJ took a screen for 55 yards and the fans gave the SB Champs a standing ovation!

    57 minutes ago, muppy said:

    my very first Bills game was the first ever Monday Night football game in Buffalo held at Rich Stadium the date was Oct. 29, 1973: Chiefs 14 at Bills 23 (W) 

     

    I remember vividly we leaving Batavia 4 hours ahead of game time to be able to tailgate and due to the traffic logistical nightmare we didn't make it to our seats until halftime...and many ticket holders didn't get it at all. Huge stink..they just didn't have the traffic patterns figured out at all....

     

    a very distinct memory of that game was a picture posted to the scoreboard of a tantruming toddler with Howard Cosells' head  attached with the caption "You're Our Baby Howard" and they then TV cameras showing he laughing at it..it was classic ?

    Was at that game, Howard Cossell out with the crowd leading Juice cheers!

    56 minutes ago, Nervous Guy said:

    1971 vs the Johnny Unitas led Baltimore Colts at the Rockpile...the Bills lost like 40-0.   Ugh.

    And we think the current Bills are bad; 1968, 1971, 1976, 1977, 1984, 1985 - real bad!

    1 hour ago, muppy said:

    my very first Bills game was the first ever Monday Night football game in Buffalo held at Rich Stadium the date was Oct. 29, 1973: Chiefs 14 at Bills 23 (W) 

     

    I remember vividly we leaving Batavia 4 hours ahead of game time to be able to tailgate and due to the traffic logistical nightmare we didn't make it to our seats until halftime...and many ticket holders didn't get it at all. Huge stink..they just didn't have the traffic patterns figured out at all....

     

    a very distinct memory of that game was a picture posted to the scoreboard of a tantruming toddler with Howard Cosells' head  attached with the caption "You're Our Baby Howard" and they then TV cameras showing he laughing at it..it was classic ?

    Great stuff!

    2 hours ago, macaroni said:

    My first game was the Bills very first home game. I don't remember who we were playing (I was 9). But I DO remember my first sight of the field, I remember buying fresh roasted peanuts from a cart on Best. I remember my Dad telling me they used to run stock car races in the stadium "back in the day". I remember the greatest day in my life spent with my Dad and older brothers.

    Great post, I know the feeling!

    Athletic Subscription Required: Teams don’t have to establish the run to win games, and the analytics proves it. But the run isn’t dead, either

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    1 hour ago, nucci said:

    you have to do both well....sometimes one more than the other to win games. 

    Great coaches game plan to win - run, pass, defense or special teams. Many watch the NFL for Show Time Arena Football excitement, anybody who thinks the running game is dead is sadly mistaking. Ask the no huddle offense and OJ Anderson! 

    Two Reason For Hope No One Is Talking About.

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    1 hour ago, MJS said:

    Run stuffing linebackers don't win anything. You have to primarily be good in coverage. The really good LB's are good at both. The decent ones are good at coverage. The run stuffers are almost gone because they cant cover.

    Not arguing with you, you have to do both - no kidding; been that way since the advent of the forward pass. But you can still get your butt whipped by the power running game, sorry, you still need a balanced offense and good coaches can beat pass crazy offences; just ask Marv Levy and the no huddle! You guys have to get grounded in reality and stop fantasizing about Showtime Offenses lighting up the board; go to Arena Football because the NFL and good coaches will find a way to shut it down!

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    Two Reason For Hope No One Is Talking About.

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    6 hours ago, Augie said:

     

    Unless you are playing the Patriots, who realize you have a bunch of 228# LB’s and pound the ball down your throat. Be ahead of the curve for once. Not the standard set, but have the guys to stand up against it. 

    The Arena Football crowd and dire need for showtime; the running game, the power running game, and run stuffing linebackers still win super bowls. Great coaches do what it takes to win - run, pass, special teams.

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    Who Is The Most Obscure Bills Player/Coach You Remember Meeting?

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    13 hours ago, Shaw66 said:

    Roger Kochman wasn't exactly obscure, because he made a splash for a couple of games before he destroyed his knee.   I met him after the injury.  

    I remember that!

     

     

     

    Not sure this meets the criteria, but I met Scott Norwoods college room mate and close friend at an Atlanta Airport Bar and talked for about an hour; Doctor Phil stuff! Interesting to say the least!

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    20 stages of watching your team make a horrible free agency mistake

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    1 hour ago, Reed83HOF said:

    Great article and it was written for the NHL, but it applies to all sports and so many TBD members and the Bills

    https://theathletic.com/1062155/2019/07/04/down-goes-brown-the-20-stages-of-watching-your-team-make-a-horrible-free-agency-mistake/

    Stage 1: The first rumors

    You’ll never quite remember where you first heard the original rumor.You might hear it from a friend who swears he heard it from a friend whose uncle-in-law used to work with the assistant GM’s former cleaning lady.  But at some point, somebody strings together a sentence featuring a player’s name, your favorite team, and a number that is just way too high.

     

    Stage 2: You laugh at those rumors

    I mean, come on. That much? For that guy? Nice try. Granted, your team’s GM isn’t exactly crushing it out there. He’s been known to make the occasional mistake. He’s lost a few trades, and overpaid on a few contracts. Also, he once ended a press conference by confidently striding away from the podium and then pulling on a door labeled “PUSH” for half an hour.

     

    Stage 3: One of the real insiders reports it

    Uh oh. OK, that’s a bad sign. Those guys are pretty plugged in, and they don’t make stuff up. If they’re talking about it, there has to at least be something to it. This is not good.

     

    Stage 4: You talk yourself into the cap hit as long as the term is reasonable

    Look, the numbers being thrown around are pretty crazy. But what if this is one of those short-term deals? Those happen sometimes. Your team has a bit of cap room this year, after all. Sure, you were hoping they’d use it to fill one of the roughly nine different holes in the roster, but maybe they could just give it all to this guy on a one-year deal. Aren’t expiring deals for a lot of money a good thing? 

     

    Stage 5: The desperate search for any rumors linking the player to any other team

    Please, let somebody else be linked to this guy. You don’t even care who. There has to be some other sucker out there.

     

    Stage 6: The deal gets announced

    This is always a fun moment, especially if this is one of the rare cases where you’ve skipped steps one through five entirely because the deal is coming out of the blue. You haven’t had the chance to brace yourself at all, and suddenly you get blindsided by a name and a number that don’t make sense. teams are starting to figure out that it can help to let a slightly higher number leak ahead of time so that the actual price seems reasonable by comparison. This will make you feel better for roughly 30 seconds before you run the numbers and realize they’re still awful. If your team isn’t a little bit smart, then the official announcement will be even worse than you thought and you’ll need to go and lie down in a dark storage closet for the rest of the day.

    Stage 7: Don’t look at the analytics

    Seriously, don’t. No good has ever come from a fan looking at the analytics. They always bring misery. Look away!

     

    Stage 8: You looked at the analytics

     

    Oh lord, it’s even worse than you thought. Look at this chart, with the circles and the bar graphs and the comparables! Do you realize what this means?

    No, of course, you don’t, nobody has ever understood an analytics chart. But you’re pretty sure this one is bad. Why are all the arrows going down instead of up?

     

    Stage 9: The GM press conference

    Pure comedy. You can have your George Carlin and Richard Pryor; there’s no better standup routine in the world than an NHL GM who just signed a terrible contract that he thinks is really good. It’s just a nonstop word salad of meaningless clichés and hackneyed narratives. Watch carefully, and you can actually pinpoint the exact moment where having to hear himself describe the deal out loud makes the GM realize that he’s made a horrible mistake. If you’re lucky, he’ll even drop a quote like “I’m not worried about Year 6 or 7 right now, I’m worried about Year 1” that can become your go-to sound bite whenever you’re about to make a bad decision in your own life.

     

    Stage 10: The extra details leak out

    Wait, the contract is also buyout proof? With heavy bonuses and lockout protection? And there’s a full no-movement clause? Why? This! (Gestures furiously at the term and cap hit)! This is the no-movement clause!

     

    Stage 11: The defenders emerge

    Some fans will always defend everything their team does. It’s cool. It’s what fans are supposed to do. You root for a team, and that means you have their back, whether they deserve it or not. 

    Sometimes, the defender’s job is relatively easy. The contract is a little rich, or maybe a bit long, but that’s free agency. You either overpay, or you don’t get the player. Cap space is great, but at some point you need to fill out the roster and get better. Better to pay a little too much than sit on the sidelines. Besides, the cap will probably go up. There’s a new TV deal coming. And maybe the player will be better than you think. Sometimes a change of scenery helps, you know? He’ll have a chance to get healthy, the coach will get the most out of him, and the team’s grizzled veterans will make sure he works hard

     

    Stage 12: The conspiracy theories

    No, see, the deal might look bad now. But what if we’re just looking at it all wrong? Those crazy signing bonuses will just make it easier to trade the guy, maybe as soon as tomorrow. The point is that the same GM who recently fell off the stage at the draft is probably secretly playing four-dimensional chess here. Just have some faith, man.

     

    Stage 13: You grudgingly decide to give the new guy a chance

    Fast forward ahead a few weeks. The rush of early July is long past, the dog days of summer have slowly dragged by, and training camp has arrived. He didn’t force anyone to sign it. He just negotiated for the most money he could, same as you or anyone else would want to do. And he’s saying all the right things. He seems genuinely happy to be here. You even heard something about him being in the very best shape of his life, and nobody would say that if it wasn’t true.

     

    Stage 14: The first few shifts of the exhibition schedule

    Nope, he’s awful. You were right all along. This contract is a disaster.

     

    Stage 15: The last remaining fans turn on the deal

    This stage can arrive in a variety of ways. Sometimes, it happens almost immediately. Others, it may take a while. It can be a gradual process, with fans falling off the bandwagon one at a time like leaves from a tree on an autumn day. Or maybe there’s some turning point that shocks everyone into reality. Occasionally, the process never fully completes itself, and you get one of those weird intra-fanbase civil wars where everyone screams at each other about one specific player for years.

    But one way or another, the tide turns. The diehard defenders will remain, but otherwise the mood gets ugly. The player might be booed. People get fired. Other fanbases make punchlines. It is not a fun time.

     

    Stage 16: The years go by

    So many years.

    There are positives. If you wait long enough, the player will occasionally have a good game or a good week, and they might even string together a pretty decent season. At times, the needle will be nudged from “abject disaster” all the way up to “mild catastrophe.” At some point, those defenders from Stage 11 might emerge to take a victory lap, as if we don’t remember that they all jumped ship in the years in between.But mostly, it’s what you expected: A guy getting paid too much money for not enough production. And at some point, the conversation will shift to: “How do we get rid of this guy?”

     

    Stage 17: The inevitable buyout

    It always ends badly.But the end result is the same. The team wriggles out of the deal, but probably eats a lot of money to do it. Maybe it costs them a draft pick or a prospect too, or they end up taking back a deal that’s almost as bad. But they’re off the hook. It’s over. There are always mixed feelings when this stage arrives. Relief, that the story has reached an end. Anger, that it ever came to this. Sympathy, for the new GM who had to figure it all out, because by this point the guy who signed the deal in the first place is long gone, working as a scout for some other team where his college roommate is in charge. Maybe just a little bit of regret, as you wonder if you were all too hard on the player. He always seemed like a good guy. By the way, it should go without saying that if and when the player returns for his first game back with his new team, he will look amazing and score the game-winning goal. Just accept it now.
     

    Stage 18: The revisionist history

    You may not reach this stage until years later, but it will come. Actually, somebody will try to tell you, the deal wasn’t that bad. Actually, everybody liked it at the time. Actually, this newly discovered stat suggests that the player was better than you thought. Actually, the deal was horrible but it prevented the team from doing some other even more horrible thing so that makes it good. Don’t you feel dumb now? These people are the worst.
     

    Stage 19: The self-reflection

    This is the stage where everybody involved learns some hard lessons. The front office that signed the deal looks back on how they miscalculated so badly. Ownership comes to understand how they allowed it to happen, and how they can prevent similar mistakes in the future. Fans think back to their initial reactions, and recalibrate their expectations going forward. The media re-read their hot takes, reflect on what they got wrong, and vow to do better next time. This step has never actually happened, but scientists believe it is theoretically possible.

     

    Stage 20: The next contract

    OK, see, but this time it will be different…

     

    yawn!

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