MattM

That one ended our SB run--I remember it well, and also remember being mad as heck at Bruce for failing to do something as simple as getting a flu shot. So easily preventible--it still makes me mad thinking about it..... Who was the guy who replaced him that day--anyone remember?

This whole thing smells pretty bad to me--smells like a coverup by Jauron to insulate himself from criticism for pulling his young starter to try to spark the team.....

Personally, I think that what they got caught doing was the tip of the iceberg--there were many other reports out of NE over the years, including things like headsets going out at inopportune times (Marinelli and Del Rio reported that, for ex.) Check out the NYT article from May of this year that also quoted several members of the NFL Competition Cttee saying that it was really only one team (NE) that kept coming up in complaints of shady goings on over and over......

I was at the Foreman game as well--now that was a COLD game. I still remember having to peel back the layers to take a pee in the men's room..... PS Sorry about the slap there, Jim--I saw the join date and suspected a Pats* troll trying a new technique. If I'm wrong about that, my bad.

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patrio...e-but-fact.html I recall seeing that response several times last year from Pats* fans when folks were talking about the record 17 guys we had on IR. Well, you know what I have to say to them this year--WAAAA, WAAAA, WAAAA......

For daring to touch a Patriot* King Goodell will no doubt have him hind and quartered in the public square. I suspect he'll get a lot more of a penalty than Light did for punching Crowder in the face last week--all for a play which shouldn't have even had a flag thrown on it, but that's "justice" in the modern day, "Big Market Money Talks (Especially Bob Kraft's)" NFL......

"It will be interesting to see if Trent is truthful about his "injury" in the postgame sessions. We all know that Jauron used the injury card so that he couldn't get called out if and when Losman sucked in the second half (and/or to salve TE's brittle psyche for getting pulled). I'm not buying it and no one else should either. Horrific decision all around. Like him or not, Trent is the future of the franchise at QB, so benching him does him no good confidence-wise. If Losman had done well, what then? Ride the hot hand as far as he'll take you (not likely to be the playoffs), watch him leave in FA and then go back to the guy you've dumped? Complete crap all around--what a f-ing joke....." My auto post on this topic (from even before the press conference--this is all Jauron covering his arse and Trent going along with it to (a) protect his coach and (b) protect his own rep.....

They are, without a doubt, the worst of the worst--no bigger bandwagonistas can be found in the land. At least this will put to rest all the talk of Cassel being the second coming of Joe Montana/Tom Brady.....

Your team (your real team, I suspect, based on your join date) is getting their asses handed to them by the Steelers--happy?

It will be interesting to see if Trent is truthful about his "injury" in the postgame sessions. We all know that Jauron used the injury card so that he couldn't get called out if and when Losman sucked in the second half (and/or to salve TE's brittle psyche for getting pulled). I'm not buying it and no one else should either. Horrific decision all around. Like him or not, Trent is the future of the franchise at QB, so benching him does him no good confidence-wise. If Losman had done well, what then? Ride the hot hand as far as he'll take you (not likely to be the playoffs), watch him leave in FA and then go back to the guy you've dumped? Complete crap all around--what a f-ing joke..... My "auto response" on this point....

No, not at all--but that has to do with how the Bills played rather than the cheating scumbags and their obnoxious fans that were the topic of your original post. I agree with the poster above about the refs and New England--wouldn't surprise me in the slightest to find out that they've been paying them for years. Not one bit--when you have so many late in the game, game changing garbage calls go one way it's got to be more than dumb luck, and when you're dealing with billionaires who don't like to lose anything goes. Karma's coming to get all of them one by one--Charlie Weis's impending ouster being the most recent event--kind of like a slasher horror movie.....

It will be interesting to see if Trent is truthful about his "injury" in the postgame sessions. We all know that Jauron used the injury card so that he couldn't get called out if and when Losman sucked in the second half (and/or to salve TE's brittle psyche for getting pulled). I'm not buying it and no one else should either. Horrific decision all around. Like him or not, Trent is the future of the franchise at QB, so benching him does him no good confidence-wise. If Losman had done well, what then? Ride the hot hand as far as he'll take you (not likely to be the playoffs), watch him leave in FA and then go back to the guy you've dumped? Complete crap all around--what a f-ing joke.....

It will be interesting to see if Trent is truthful about his "injury" in the postgame sessions. We all know that Jauron used the injury card so that he couldn't get called out if and when Losman sucked in the second half (and/or to salve TE's brittle psyche for getting pulled). I'm not buying it and no one else should either. Horrific decision all around. Like him or not, Trent is the future of the franchise at QB, so benching him does him no good confidence-wise. If Losman had done well, what then? Ride the hot hand as far as he'll take you (not likely to be the playoffs), watch him leave in FA and then go back to the guy you've dumped? Complete crap all around--what a f-ing joke.....

Maybe 1, but just that......

Yup--looks like it was just a mirage, but boy what a beautiful mirage while it lasted....

Who else feels bad for our D, having to try time and again to save games for our pathetic excuse for an O?

WTF--"NEAR the LOS"--what kind of BS is that? While I don't have a rule book handy, I'm sure that's not the way the rule reads--I'm sure it's that the ball has to go beyond the LOS. What complete horsesh*t!

No, thanks. Not worth it.I'd rather lose honorably than cheat like those a-holes. And just think, if we were like them we'd have to deal with all the bandagon moron fans, just like 90 percent of the current Pats* fans--you know, the folks who couldn't tell Andre Tippett from Andre 3000, or who honestly didn't know that the Pats* lost two SBs before 2001....

No, thanks--I'll stick with what we've got. It's a lot easier to look like an All Pro when you're playing with a ton of them, when the refs seem to look the other way when your team commits rules transgressions on and off the field (see the Matt Light incident for just the latest in a long string of evidence of that) and when you've been sitting the pine for 4 years with nothing to do but learn the system. All of this is taking a bit of a bloom off the Brady rose as well--maybe it is just the system after all, no? Still, I must admit Cassel looks a lot better than I'd have thought after his horrific pre-season (I watched all of his games)--he looked absolutely atrocious in August, so hats off to the Cheaters for coaching him up.....

Let's keep our facts straight and our perspective--Quinn is also a second year QB, just like TE, but one chosen in the first round and a projected Top 10 pick at one point. The jury is still out on him as well, but I'd have to say that notwithstanding last night, TE has had a better career than Brady Quinn simply based on the fact that he's actually played 16 or so more NFL games than Quinn. If that will continue into the future, who knows. I, too, don't like what I saw from TE last night, but I'm not so sure throwing him under the bus and starting over somehow is the answer here. Like it or not, he's got the rest of the season to show us what he's got. If, based on that, he looks like he's regressed, then the front office has its work cut out for them going into the offseason. If he makes progress, then we're back where I expected us to be in 2008--anywhere from 7-9 to 9-7 and one year away (and 3-4 key additions--DE, C/G, OLB and TE) from making a serious run at the AFCE. We all got a little too excited by our early start, but it's time to come down to reality, folks.....

Has he done ANYTHING tonight?

Make no mistake about it, everybody but Pats* fans hate that POS--some day soon he'll get his.....

Even if he did drop one right in the chest early in the game?

Average is a lot better than we've got right now in the middle of the line....

Completely agree on 1. Absolutely no D line push or pressure on passing plays and our O-line has looked atrocious the last few weeks. Problem is, it takes time and cash to build those out. I see us drafting a DE in Rd 1 next year, but that's just to replace an aging Schobel ultimately. How do you fix the other 2-4 guys you need to do this right (another D lineman and a C and guard, IMHO)? Ralph may sign one FA starter, but it's unlikely we'll find the other 2-3 guys we need in the draft, especially with our propensity to not draft those positions high......