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There was also a time when Blaine Gabbert shot up the boards. I'm not saying they're the same, but just that I don't trust the "shooting up the boards" action that occurs between now and the draft.

22. It's the new 16.

That would certain fit in with the rest of the story. I wouldn't have expected anything less.

Good article. This is particularly damning and I have no idea why ND chose to go this route: Another question I have is who came up with the grand idea of killing the gf off on the same day as the grandmother? And why?

I'm not a lawyer, but you would think that getting phone records is a little harder than people just asking for them. I would think phone carriers wouldn't be too keen on giving out phone records without a court order. After all, no crime has been committed. Not yet, at least. But I'm sure the lawsuits will be coming soon. A variety of girls. Good choice of words there. By this account, he does exactly sound like an introvert. And if he was completely innocent, we not only would have heard more from him by now (he's actually had 3 weeks to get his ducks in order), but we would have heard from him before the Deadspin article.

This is a surprising development. Chud was an OC and usually former OCs want to put their own stamp on the offense (same for ex-DC turned HCs with the defense). Now Chud is going to have to give up his offensive vision for what Norv is going to want to run. Or maybe they have very similar offensive philosophies. I don't really know. Do they have any past connections? This sounds like a decision that came down from above.

We don't have much in the way of facts at all. The only facts we do have is what Manti is on record of saying in the past. Those are facts and they will not change. Whether any of that was actually true is a whole other story. But he can't take back what he's said in the past. It's going to be interesting from here on in. We've only heard about 10% of this case. The rest will come out eventually. And I don't think this story is going to be supplanted by another because it's primarily a sports story. Something in the world of sports will have to be bigger to supplant it. What, the start of the NHL season?

No, they're different. Well, at least Luther and Ciano are different people. They're both strength & conditioning coaches now. I guess 2 is better than 1.

He said it because he wanted to continue his ruse. It wasn't until this story broke he came clean. He could have avoided all of this shame if he came out with all this before the Deadspin article.

That remains to be seen. http://m.deadspin.com/5976816/what-happened-to-manti-teos-interview-with-espn

Bill Polian is in ESPN's pocket right now though. And ESPN isn't touching this story with a 10 foot pole because it makes them look like complete buffoons. The quicker this story goes away, the better for ESPN.

Certainly not as bizarre, but Lance is probably loving every minute of this. Wait, Lance who?

That's awesome. And probably true.

Lots of YouTube videos too. He's not that bad. http://youtu.be/Ie7lbuma03E

That's true. The details are staggering. And remember, the best thing about telling the truth is you never have to remember what you previously said. The amount of energy and attention to detail that this girl must have had to achieve is truly amazing. It's like living a double life. This girl's heart and soul must have been entrenched in such a hoax. Could a human being actually pull that off without a huge sense of motivation? This is why I just can't buy this being a hoax. I have a feeling that what know at this point is just the tip of the iceberg. I have a suspicion that people deep within ND University were not only privy to this, but orchestrated this whole thing. A joke? This "hoax" is just as likely as Obama being born in Hawaii.

It looks like it's 70 degrees outside. Why's this guy wearing a scar. Fishy.

Fascinating, truly fascinating.

Amazingly enough, Urban Dictionary doesn't even have an entry for necro-beard. Someone get on this. And put in an entry for Manteed.

Seriously, how are we going to tell these guys apart? Ladies and Gents, I present to you Hal Luther: http://blog.syracuse.com/orangefootball/2012/08/syracuse_university_football_t_155.html

Yes, a female does exist. And I were her, I would start looking for a book deal right away before this fizzles. And, has anyone heard from Ronaiah Tuiasosopo yet? I'm sure he has a lot to say.

If I were him I'd come out of the closet anyway. It's the only legit way through this mess. In other news, Chip Kelly is having seconds thoughts about the Eagles job while Brian Kelly is now trying to actively wrestle it away from him.

Not that Anselmo. The one they hired is John. He's a real estate agent from California. http://www.johnanselmo.com/ Or, maybe they hired the golf instructor, also from California. http://anselmogolfacademy.com/ I'm not sure. Could be either one. But I though the Bills would have learned from recruiting from California.

Agreed. This has nothing to do with whether or not Internet dating works or not. That's immaterial. The fact remains, he spoke to her on the phone apparently every night, he admitted to seeing her in person at least once, and apparently she visited his parents home in Hawaii. Now, who was this girl that met his parents, he met at least once, spoke to on the phone for obscene amounts of hours? A girl did exist. In fact, a fullback on the Cardinals is saying he was close friends with her. Again, this girl existed and it was not that dude. So, who was this girl? And if she was part of a hoax, I can't imagine a human being going through such extremes to keep playing her part. Visiting the parents? Staying on the phone all night? Come on. Btw, does anyone know the record for the longest thread on TBD? I think we may have a winner in the making. This is certainly going to pass the hiring of Marrone.

Draft this guy now. He's awesome. Can we please ban the word "kid" from this thread? He was a senior in college, living on his own for 4 years.

I'm really having a problem with the timing of this statement. This story broke late this afternoon. Within hours, he's squealing about being the victim. Let's say this hoax did occur. In his mind, up until now, he had a girlfriend. In his heart, he was completely convinced with this notion. This was his reality. If someone, some stranger, then told him this wasn't true, why would he automatically believe them? He automatically said "it' was a big hoax. I'm the victim". If I was in his shoes, I would be filled with disbelief, utterly shocked. I would want to do my own investigation to convince myself of what actually happened. I would want to be 100% sure of what actually is reality before giving a public statement. There was no notion of denial here. That would have been the more natural human reaction. Unless deep inside he already knew it wasn't true.