Mooshocker

....but, Trent has what JP will never have...brains. JP may have a great arm, great legs and escapability, however, he will never have the intelligence or ability to read defenses that Trent has.

Revisionist history. I'd love to see where JP would be with Schonert, a stable Front Office, an OLine, a better than average defense, and some weapons around him. Trent looked pretty "JP like" for the first 3 quarters last week. Let me tell you all once again where JP would be with Schonert, a stable front office, an o-line, a better than average defense and some weapson around him: SITTING ON THE BENCH BECAUSE HE LACKS THE INTELLIGENCE, VISION AND LEADERSHIP CAPABILITIES NECESSARY TO PERFORM AS A STARTING QB IN THE NFL. Get it straight....................................all the physical talents in the world will NOT take the place of what is between his ears which is very little.

The human head weighs 8 pounds!

Awesome. Thanks a ton! Fergy was tough as nails. Another one who did not have a cannon arm or great wheels, but super smart and could pick a defense apart before the snap.

JP does not even come close to managing the offense, the game clock or their defense. I have said it before and will continue, arm strength, good wheels does not make a winning QB. It takes brains and the ability to keep it in front of you. HOw many long bombs to Evans would we have seen within the last two minutes of this game.

"J.P. struggles more with that aspect of the game. You win with those [intrinsic qualities]. You can have all the athletic ability in the world and the strongest arm in the world and great escapability, but if you don't understand the game and what the defense is giving you and know your guys, you won't be successful." - Mark Kelso In summary, it is what I have been saying since last season!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rest assured, if it were our beloved Bills instead of the Chargers, this board would be EXPLODING on Hochuli!!!!!!!!!!!!

...regarding my take on JP Losman. I was "crazy" enough to suggest that it was not JP's arm, feet or overall athletic ability that would be his downfall not only here in Buffalo but throughout the NFL. It is his absolute lack of football smarts. His inability to read a defense, rely on his line to block for him, anticipate his receivers (other than the fly or deep post by Lee) and not being able to recognize a defensive scheme prior to going under center. It was suggested that I was not open to JP's abilities and that I was just a Trent lover. I must say, from the moment I saw Trent play in person (at home versus the Jets), I knew we were on to a very special QB. Whatever we THOUGHT he lacked in skill, he more than made up with his brains. Now, in a new season, we can clearly see by yesterdays game what football smarts affords you. Calm, cool and collected QBing. Reading the defense and anticipating. Extracting all he could out of each play called and knowing what his limits were (accepting the sack late in the game versus a very JP like move by throwing it up there). We all know Montana had them (smarts), Boomer had them, Simms had them and more recently, Brady and Kerry Collins. Football smarts. Using the team around you and keeping your feet planted. Now, one final chance for JP to exercise smarts.....RE-SIGN WITH BUFFALO, ACCEPT YOUR POSITION ON THIS TEAM AND IN THIS LEAGUE AND ENJOY MUCH SUCCESS!!!!

probably played himself into a roster casualty after fumbling for the third time in three games last night versus Detroit. OOOOOOPS - I meant D. Wright......I feel like the guy who mistook Ryan Denney for Bryant McKinney.....sorry.....

....not alot!

when inducted into the HOF? Will go in as a Bill or a Redskin out of financial spite? Also, any thoughts on who will introduce him?

Will James or what??????????????? The only place I have been able to catch it is on TSW!?!? How could bb.com not report this?

I voted for Pittman, however, I think Leonard is the smart pick here!

Sorry but I believe it's: "Where else would you rather be than right here, right now!" In an age of detail, one cannot overlook the importance of getting this all important quote right. It is as "Buffalo Bill" as "Shout" or #12.

...that the Orioles and Twins play tonight at 7:05 p.m. followed by the Angles and the Rangers at 10:00. I'll update you with other reports as they scroll. PS - NFL news coming in about three minutes...hold on....ok...Cards sign Mike Gandy...phew, glad I can type fast.

I officially agree sir.

done, done and done.....

First, a great big congrats to JP AND, contrary to AnthonyF (?), Steve Fairchild and the ENTIRE offensive coaching staff for identifying the abilties of this offense and excentuating said abilities. I have posted only a couple of times, however, have been a Bills fan for many, many years. Not since the Kelly days have I had so much to look forward to. A solid, young, athletic quarterback, a spunky, great handed wide receiver, a young, yet intelligant offensive line and a running back that if he listens to Marv, just might make somthing of himself in this league. A couple of LB's, a couple of O and D linemen (one each of which should be a mid-grade veteran), a really tall, lanky WR and we are on to something.

As I said a couple of weeks ago (within my very first post)....this line, if it stays healthy, is young enough, talented enough and athletic enough to be one of the best lines in Buffalo history. Right it down. Even the likes of Wolford, Fina, Ballard, Hull did NOT have the athletic upside these youngsters do. The line needs depth! The line needs time! The very same can be said about our defensive line. Depth and time! Great win! Great team effort! Great coaching! If only we would have kept Bledsoe, we probably could've won 38-13...oh well!

Actually brought a smile and tears to my eyes at the same time! What a day that was! What a game! We played with heart. We played as a team. We played like winners!

I have been reading TSW for about one year now and have to say how informative and entertaining it has been. I have been hesitant to post a thread because each time I come up with a thought or an idea, I find another individual has already posted it..lol. That said....I am going to jump in and start taking an active position on this site. I really like our offensive line. In fact, I think it is about the most talented line we have fielded in about eight years. Fowler seems to play above his physical abilities; Peters will only continue to get better with time; Gandy is obviously much more comfortable at LG; Preston is young, phsycial and along with Gandy and Pennington, will only become more efficient and "stable" as time goes on. Should this line stay together for the remainder of the season, offseason and right into 2007, I would assume a substantial increase in offensive success based upon that factor alone. JP seems to have a lot of the tools necessary to win. Very strong, accurate arm. Upfield vision. Busy, yet not wasteful footwork, size and of course, mobility. I can recall critiquing JimBo during his first two or three years in the NFL and noticed how he struggled reading NFL defenses versus his USFL days at times. I even questioned his ability to make the transition. He seemed to rely too much on his cannon arm and "tough guy" attitude. Putting the ball "in there" too often. Remember..... I truly believe JP will become the type of quarterback who pull's success from a variety of places at different points of a game. His own skills. His ends. His RB's and his WR's. What I mean is JP will not be one dimensional. He will learn to excentuate what is working. He will learn how to read defenses and he will comit himself to taking his game to higher and higher levels. The kid has got it....he just needs to find it and nurture it...just like JimBo and a guy in Green Bay who Glanville said would never make it in the NFL. Well, I am done for now. It was fun putting my thought on paper and hopefully my misspellings and other errors don't outweigh the message I was trying to convey. Thanks everyone. I look forward to your replies.

First, let me introduce myself as a lifelong Bills fan, longtime reader of TBD and finally, a confused member of this conversation. Why is it, whenever someone gets cut, traded, released, etc., we as "fans" jump in the middle of their *^&% and begin nitpicking everything little thing about them...aka, a picture of them on a national website as a potential "winner" in this league. How many of us would have killed to have had Drew back last year. Just wondering? Now that he is gone, he is the worst thing that ever stepped foot in the Ralph!?!?