Andy1
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There were so many unnecessary deaths. I knew one guy, strong Trump supporter, who died unnecessarily after refusing to get vaxed. He was in a very high risk population and sadly left behind wife and kids.
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8 hours ago, redtail hawk said:
please give examples of my supposed "commie" positions...I'm all for dog eat dog, survival of the fittest. It's what America is...spiced with compassion for the unfortunate.
You’ll never get a response cause they have no idea what real communism is other than a label to put on people they disagree with.
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47 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:
This makes sense to me.
The question, believe it or not, was not satirical. Following Trump's rise, I have no idea what it means to be conservative in this country. I cannot believe that traditional conservatives countenance his nonsense. Young conservatives seem to be social conservative and economic . . . maybe super progressives. Like that Big Blitz guy who somehow thinks that conservatism entails the government interceding to freeze prices to stop inflation.
A lot of ideology has become warped in the Trump era. Reagan would never get elected by the MAGA crowd. When I think of traditional family values, I think of how my father and grandfather lived their lives and loved this country.
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2 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:
if you think you got a groundhog, you probably didn't. Happy hunting.
I’m hoping he doesn’t come out of his hole!
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14 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:
i'm pretty good at squirrel and groundhog eradication on my property. snakes used to get in the chicken coop...the bear is a bigger problem but so far a simple air horn works
22 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:you mean the threats or something else? something bad happens to me and there's this thread...
Threats and name calling on a message board is just dumb. I think I got rid of a groundhog this morning. I too have been battling them this summer. At least I don’t have to think about bears.
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The train has gone off the track…. Bizarre.
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45 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:
What, dare I ask, are conservative family values?
Great question. I would say it’s The Golden Rule - treat others as you would want them to treat you. I would also add supporting families in whatever shape or form they are, protecting the environment for our children’s children, and sacrificing our wants for the benefit of our children.
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26 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:
Illegal or not, it happens, Andy. To be candid, I’m really struggling to understand how you can go from “Trump’s comments = threat” to “Gee, I don’t know why certain things are leaked”.
You know why those photos were leaked, and I know why those photos were leaked. We can debate whether it was some low level flunky trying to look important or Merrick Garland himself. We can debate whether it was some malicious and malevolent force trying to divide folks like you and me, or some well-intentioned patriot who truly felt Trump is a threat to all mankind and figured “Screw my ethics”. What is beyond debate is that the photos were leaked to influence opinion.
Back to the point. The government holds all the cards here. No budgetary constraints. No limitations on personnel working the case. No personal financial skin in the game whether Smith wins or loses. A one-sided process to return an indictment. The game is played on their home court. They gave unlimited opportunity to leak information and the protection of anonymous sourcing to shape the narrative as they see fit.
The defendant, on the other hand, has none of that. If the case Smith is bringing is so strong—-and it likely is—-what’s the harm in sharing/releasing data so long as no significant national secrets are in play (we can even use the Biden Benchmark—anything sensitive enough that it can’t be stored next to a corvette 30 years or older is off limits) and no one is in harms way?
I’ve gotten to the point where I realize there’s far too much secrecy in our system, too many people protecting others, too much hidden under the cover of National Security.I remain uncertain about the protective order, but the fantasy that what Trump tweeted is beyond the political pale simply doesn’t hold water with me. That and worse occur daily in Washington.
I agree, the public should hear whatever evidence Smith has. We will when these cases go to trial. The government does hold all the cards. That’s why legal experts all say you really don’t want to face federal charges. Trump didn’t care about the consequences, so now he faces the charges. The feds still need to convince a jury of their case.
The amount of classified documents our country has is ridiculous. My local library does a better job tracking and retrieving late books than our government does with their classified docs. This is a good opportunity for bipartisan legislation to deal with this issue.
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10 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:
We can pretend for a minute that politicians and activists don’t use incendiary language on an almost daily basis, or that politicians and activists accusing their opposition of being guilty of treason or being an illegitimate president is way cool and not at all dangerous, or senators ominously stating the intelligence community will come for you in any way, shape or form if you cross them. If that makes you feel good,Andy, let’s pretend that.
The question was about gag orders. Short of revealing national security issues and exposing individuals to harm, why is it acceptable for the govt to leak as they see fit without recourse, and the defense required to stand down when it benefits them.
Again, I’m torn, I’m not sure how I feel about that. If the prosecution is malicious—as has obviously happened with some
regularity since the founding of our county, wouldn’t you want to see evidence of same?
Assume Trump is not the defendant.
Lehnerd you raise some interesting points. As far as the leaked photos of the docs Trump had, I have no good answer. Was it illegal to release them? I’m no attorney so I have no clue on that. Maybe Bidens garage with the docs there should be shown too. The FBI announced the investigation of Hillary and never told the public about their investigation of Trump before the election. Who knows, that may have swung the election towards Trump. That wasn’t fair either but that’s how the world goes.
I’ve long thought that political leaders on both sides need to turn down the temperature of political rhetoric. If Trumps language threatens witnesses or court members a limited gag order seems appropriate if that is within the norms of the justice system. At this point we just need to let the justice system do its job. I have faith in our justice system and eventually this will be resolved and both parties will move on to some sort of new post-Trump political world. -
27 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:
So, Andy, I’m torn by all this. As a law and order guy, I completely understand and appreciate the need to protect our institutions, processes and the people who run them.
On the other hand, the simple reality seems to be that the prosecution can leak like a sieve, using the media to create a narrative, and the defense is handcuffed and bullied into silence.
I have used the photo of allegedly classified files strewn about on the floor of Mara Lago. These photos were released for effect, and of course, we have no idea what the contents of the file represent. On the other hand, we have no release from DOJ sources of files strewn about in Biden’s garage, office, or any of his homes.
So, I’m asking you as a Trump hater. Is a gag order really in the best interest of the public, assuming no lives endangered?
Trumps language is a threat. How dumb does one have to be to threaten a federal prosecutor? What would the court do to anyone else under indictment who threatened their prosecutor? Trump loves to threaten anyone who opposes him and he doesn’t care about the consequences for the other individual. I’m sure Trump would love one of his deranged MAGA minions to take violent action so I don’t think we can assume no lives endangered.
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Trump is blathering like a senile old man who knows he is guilty, so the only option is to start thrashing about.
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13 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:
Biden doesn’t have a cult you dumb asses just don’t realize that
That’s why his events don’t have the Trump rally type thing going for them, but he ends up getting more votes
He’s just a dude i don’t consider him a messiah he is an old decrepit shell of himself dude boring as hell
Whenever becomes to our presidents, I like them boring
Imagine a Biden cult….that’s like the funniest thing I’ve heard today! He’s the complete opposite of a cult leader. Has anyone ever flown Biden flags or worn Biden hats? I’ve never seen them. Biden has never said “I alone can fix it …” How many republicans disagree with Trump and what happens to them. We all know the answer and that’s a sign it’s a cult.-
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We now have dozens and dozens of Trumpers, life long Republicans, who are on record testifying against Trump vs Republican politicians and media who will continue to push the false fantasies their supporters want to hear. I guess they are all still in the stage of denial at this point. Hopefully we see a trial before the election.
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18 minutes ago, Kemp said:
Of 44 members of former President Donald Trump's cabinet, only 4 have publicly endorsed him in his 2024 presidential run.
These folks know the danger he presents.And the Republican Party will continue to support the guy who can deliver the endorphins of hate that only Trump can give to them.
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The Trump trials will be filled with Republicans testifying against Trump and his illegal actions. The wheels of justice turn slowly but they are turning and his BS won’t fly in court.
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Trump now has 78 criminal charges against him in 3 cases. Republican Party will still follow him over a cliff.
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Trump, his aides and other Rs who conspired with his illegal schemes are in a world of legal s#@t. Jack Smith and state prosecutors are flipping people moving up the food chain. The wheels of justice turn slowly, but they are turning and Trump can’t stop it. Trump is running for President on the chance that he wins so he can pardon himself, or step down and have his VP pardon him.
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Trump doesn’t care about anyone unless they are paying him money or doing his bidding. His feelings are proportional to what he gets from them. Relationships are transactions for him. He views the MAGA masses as fools he can milk for money and use to attain power.
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Without Brady, the Patriot way ain’t so great.
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How sick and demented do you have to be to talk about having sex with your daughter? As General Kelly said, He’s the most flawed person he’s met.
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3 minutes ago, Kemp said:
You're guilty of projection, just like the rest. If Biden did all of the things Trump has acknowledged he's done, the Dems would have dumped him.
That's what makes Republicans a cult.
Dems are not addicted to one man.
Some of us don't want to live under a dictatorship.
You write to me like I am the one not paying attention while Trump literally tells us that he is going to dismantle the Federal government and put all power in the Executive branch.
Yeah, you're bright.
Dems would definitely dump Biden since pols have shown most are not thrilled with him as candidate. If Biden had 1/10 the allegations that Trump has, Fox News and the Rs would be going crazy talking about how corrupt and unfit for office he is.
It is a cult.
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Boobie Dixon. One of the best nicknames ever for a ball player.
Do you know how much I f###### love America
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I don’t label people fascists here, but in case anyone is wondering…
Political scientist Dr. Lawrence Britt recently wrote an article about fascism ("Fascism Anyone?," Free Inquiry, Spring 2003, page 20). Studying the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia), and Pinochet (Chile), Dr. Britt found they all had 14 elements in common. He calls these the identifying characteristics of fascism. The excerpt is in accordance with the magazine's policy.
The 14 characteristics are:
Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.
Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.
Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.
Supremacy of the Military
Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.
Rampant Sexism
The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.
Controlled Mass Media
Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.
Obsession with National Security
Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.
Religion and Government are Intertwined
Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.
Corporate Power is Protected
The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.
Labor Power is Suppressed
Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed .
Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.
Obsession with Crime and Punishment
Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.
Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.
Fraudulent Elections
Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.