Andy1
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That Moore TD was understanding the skill of the player, creating space around them and letting him use his advantage to win. Great easy TD.
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Nearly unrestricted access to unlimited fire power + brains poisoned by social media algorithms designed to breed anger = deadly shootings.
When I was his age, lots of friends had squirrel or rabbit guns, deer guns, etc. There was no social media, no assault weapons available to the public and no school shootings and extremely few mass shootings. The combination of the two factors above make for predictable outcomes. Should government do anything to change the equation? Utah Governor Cox is responsibly pleading for people to cool down. That is a start.
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43 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:
Crazy is as crazy do.
It’s virtually always this way. Right wing…left wing…irrelevant to me in the grand scheme of things.
Most non-crazy people don’t shoot other human beings in the neck from a secreted location, or shoot people out shopping at a TOPS, or climb on a roof and take a pot shot at a guy running for President. Mental illness is the fashionable term, &$&@ing lunatics is appropriate.
The rhetoric from leaders is certainly problematic at times, and to be clear, I’m talking about most leaders of the modern era, but somehow, someway an estimated 258,460,000+\- adults managed not to climb a building and take a shot at a guy talking to a group of kids on a college campus and 1 found a way to reveal his madness in a massive way.
When I was a kid, I was climbing over some snow banks and made it to the snow fence separating the public from the general public. I stepped on the fence, the wood slats broke under my 75ish pound frame, and I dropped almost straight down onto the gigantic splinters that were left. The snow gear helped, but fortunately the spikes did not break the skin on my leg, nor anywhere else in the very important area immediate area south of the belly button or north of the mid thigh.
There are other stories like that, near misses, decisions to avoid a place and time, and we all have them. Sometimes you have to get lucky in life (Trump moving at the last second before being struck), and poor Charlie Kirk was not so fortunate.
I too was playing in the snow, shooting BB guns with friends, getting shot by same, shooting hoops and doing other typical boy stuff. This kid appears to have been at the shooting range learning how to shoot his parents arsenal. The guy may have been nuts but the parents taught him the skill to do it. Most nuts don’t have the tools or skill. Social media probably poisoned his brain to give him the desire to do it.
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So do his parents qualify as groomers teaching and training him to be a deadly shooter? Maybe if he spent more time playing baseball as a kid instead of shooting, it would be a different story.
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I don’t know much about him, but Republican Utah Governor Cox seems quite impressive in his handling of this crisis. He had a good message to stay off social media as our enemies in Russia and China are flooding the zone with false information designed to incite anger and divide us as a nation.
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1 hour ago, B-Man said:
I will explain to you why the killing of Charlie Kirk pushes
me to the right.
He had the exact same views as my Trump supporting
parents who I love. He had the exact same views as half
my extended family. Just regular Boomer conservatism.
And thousands of leftists celebrate him being shot in the neck.
If they want that for Charlie Kirk, they want that for my parents
and my other loved ones. And I won’t stand for it.
Because I’m not a suicidal spiteful mutant with hatred for my
own family, my own parents, my own civilization. I love the
people who raised me and I’m loyal to them and I won’t ally
myself with people who want to murder them just because
they have old fashioned values that were completely common
throughout 99% of modern history - a love of faith, family, church, nation.
Thousands of leftists celebrating? Maybe I’m missing something but I don’t see celebration parades in the streets. And if they were, it doesn’t matter - idiots on either side will be idiots.
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The murder of Kirk is bringing the idiots out from all sides. I still believe the vast majority of people have grace and tolerance of others. This is the distortion of social media which elevates the morons to nationwide notoriety.
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2 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:
It’s a rhetorical device. Not uncommon to see it used in this way. Otherwise, good post.
As far as we know, the shooter was a he and not a they (as in more than one) not that we can rule out a they as in a pronoun. - Bad humor but surely appreciated by many here.
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42 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:
The bottom line is they couldn't out argue him so they killed him.
Who the hell is They? Were there multiple shooters? Has the conspiracy already started?
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13 minutes ago, Roundybout said:
Actually this probably isn’t true. Most people are normal and extremism is just rewarded on social media
YesI agree with your point on social media. The people I interact with every day, from all sides of the political spectrum, aren’t rabid lunatics like the social media stars are. Social media provides the brain washing to motivate some people to violence. A lot of businesses make their billions by fostering hate in our society.
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2 minutes ago, Lost said:
You know what's even more effective than removing guns from society? Removing the people who want to use them to murder others.
What do you mean? Who? How?
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1 hour ago, Lost said:
And when a gun isn't available, they can use a knife as seen in the Charlotte Train murder of Iryna Zarutska just a few days ago. When a knife isn't available they can just use a Ford Escape like at the Christmas parade a few years ago. When can we start blaming the people who commit the crimes instead of the tools they used?
BTW, I'm all in favor of reopening mental institutions across the country to get some of these people help before they end up committing atrocities.
Go take your knife to a gun fight and see how you fare. A car isn’t killing Kirk today. The inability to stop every form of homocide isn’t a reason to not take steps to reduce the access to deadly weapons. This is why other countries look at us like we are nuts with our guns.
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2 minutes ago, muppy said:
you may as well call it what it is. our county is in the midst of a Civil war
I thought there was a chance before, a hope before of some sort of unity. we are cooked as a society. right is wrong and wrong is RIGHT
Right is always right ?? RighT
LOL
It will be tough but I think I'll TRY to not believe how hate filled out country is and "{have a little faith" as our beloved QB said last Sunday
Lord Have Mercy
I think I’m a bit more optimistic than your view. I interact with all sorts of people and in daily interactions, I don’t see that much division. Maybe it’s just people being polite and when they go home they turn into social media warriors behind their keyboards. Places like PPP attract those who want to espouse their political views and battle online. Are all the provocative posters here really as argumentative when they meet someone face to face from the other side of the political divide? That would be weird.
What is apparent though is that it is easier than ever to act out gun violence to whomever your target is. If you want to kill someone, get whatever gun you want and have at it.
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Instead of being upset at how he or those with different views talk on politics, maybe we should be discussing how we can prevent gun violence.
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Who doesn’t have friends who joke with them about selling fully depreciated women to them? I’m sure it’s all just “locker room” talk. On the other hand, Momma always said how I’m defined by the friends I have. Maybe in Donalds deprived childhood, he never got that message.
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I’m speechless. Love Prater!
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It’s all about acting like you are jacked up on steroids with a double dose of testosterone. When you are strong, you don’t have to tell anyone. This comes from Trumps broken insecure brain.
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Covid was a bit more than a minor respiratory virus…. Unless you think these people didn’t die.
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This anti vax movement in the Republican Party is as stupid as the defund police stuff on the far left. This is all the opinion of a guy with a brain worm. I’m sure the kids of the politicians will be vaccinated. The less educated, those Trump says he loves, will be vulnerable and suffer. This also might be an opportunity for the insurance companies to profit more if they dont need to pay for as many shots. Three years from now, Republicans will disavow any association with this lunacy.
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11 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:
Yup, and I'm not making the comparison to cars to draw you into a debate about confiscating cars. I am, however, willing to contemplate where we draw the line societally on when possible tragic outcomes are the offshoot of negligent actions of individuals. I don't know the math, but I'd bet a significant portion of serious accidents and fatalities stem from young drivers acting recklessly. If we cede the need for those working folk to have a a vehicle, what about the young who decide they want a car, or they get a car back/forth to school when there is transportation freely available and provided by the school?
What about the elderly, no longer working, skills diminished, more dangerous than just a few years back? @Joe Ferguson forever surely has seen a decline in his fine motor skills after years of cheap scotch poured from expensive bottles at the country club. And what about mean blonde (or formerly blonde) girls like @ComradeKayAdams ....notoriously bad drivers while doing their textin, their makeup, their jibjab with their gals on the phone about the latest nylons and such?At least for driving they require testing of vision and your license may be revoked depending on changes in your health status. There are required training programs to take and testing to qualify to drive. Not so with the right to pack.
Any suggestions on approaches you would support to reduce the plague of gun deaths in America?
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3 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:
Tragic story. Are you advocating for confiscation of all guns to avoid the scenario above? I’m not sure how you stamp out gross negligence or
unfortunate outcomes from the process, any more than a negligent parent who has an accident with a motor vehicle with tragic outcomes for family members.
I hear the cars analogy before. Most people depend on cars to work and live. Guns are different. I’m not an advocate for confiscation. I am an advocate for public education about the dangers of firearms and buy back programs to destroy them. Safe storage laws, background checks etc… It’s pretty simple - guns kill. The more guns there are, the more opportunities for tragedies. Now, I will admit that I live in a relatively community. People who legitimately feel threatened may have different calculus. But for most people, to buy a gun just because you can is inviting the opportunity for something really bad to happen to you or someone you love.
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32 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:
Absolutely agree. That story was absolutely nuts.
However, as Orlando pointed out, some of these “challenges” include kicking in doors as part of the stunt. There’s a major difference between a kid ringing a doorbell 15 times and running, and violently attempting to gain access to someone else’s home. In those cases, I’d think the number of people choosing to defend themselves with a firearm is roughly the same number as those with access to a firearm.
Yes. The stupidity of social media stunts is infinite. Those two pranks have totally different implications for the stupid boys who do them.
It reminds me of an incident several years ago, where an off-duty cop was sleeping in his motel room. Someone tried to enter the room. He shot the person. When he turned on the lights he realized that he had killed his own son. Guns require the judgement of the gun owner to be perfect, all the time, otherwise tragedies can happen.
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Too many gun owners are idiots. A kid shouldn’t be shot just because of a prank. In New York, a gun owner shot a girl who pulled into his driveway to turn around. When people buy the gun, they don’t expect that they may end up in prison because of their poor judgement using that gun.
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The reality is… is that Trump is a frail old man with health issues, as is expected for someone his age. Grandpa needs his rest now.
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9/14/25 Week 2 GAMEDAY Bills @Jets post game Thread
in The Stadium Wall
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Nice boring win. Hopefully no injuries other than Josh’s nose. Onto Thursday night.