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There were some great NBA stars in the 90s that probably would've won a ring or two if not for MJ and the Bulls so I guess I would put some of them in this category(Patrick Ewing, Reggie Miller, Charles Barkley, John Stockton)
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I will never forget this game. I had moved to Southern California 5 years earlier and a friend that I grew up with in Tonawanda happened to be in the Bay area at the same time and we were lucky enough to get tickets. As we walked to our seats, I saw someone seated in the row behind us. A childhood friend of ours who grew up on my street and hadn’t seen since his Dad passed away and he moved out of town at 16 years old. I yelled out his name in excitement and as a true Bills fan, said "We'll talk at half-time", which, as a Bills fan, he completely understood.
We connected at the half but missed each other at the end of the game. And that was the last time we saw him… until 2013. We reconnected on facebook and he was still living in Northern California. Coincidentally, I arranged a wine country trip with good childhood friends and their wives, including my friend that I went to the game with and made plans to see our friend. About a month before the trip, he stopped communicating and I thought that we wouldn't see him. About a week before the trip, we finally connected and I learned that he had congenital heart failure, almost died and was hospitalized for a month. We did meet on the trip, which made it even more meaningful and talked about that amazing game, still in awe of what we witnessed. He wrote several questions about places and people that we grew up with in Tonawanda and my friends were able to answer his questions. It was a great evening with a lot of laughs.
About 3 months later, he passed away, from congenital heart failure. It made me feel so good that we were able to connect and that he was able to see old friends, catch up with his hometown and feel good about life, both past and present. This game will always have a place in my heart.
Go Bills!
I enjoyed reading that, this is the kind of stuff that makes being a sports fan fun. It transcends era's and time periods but the memories will always be there
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Pretty crazy. I think that game in 92' or 93' was the last time they actually won a game in Pittsburgh
Then there was the 91 regular season game against the Steelers where we lit them up, Kelly threw 6 touchdowns that day. Man the younger kids probably can't fathom there was a time when we used to beat teams like the Steelers on a regular basis.
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Are you sure that you're not conflating Losman with Rob Johnson? My recollection is that Losman worked pretty hard.
No I know a few people in real life that knew Losman and I've seen similar stories posted on here over the years that JP made it well known that football was just his job and he would rather be doing other things in his down time. I guess he didn't even really like to talk about football much. Still a decent guy though as far as a human being.
I know it's hard but if you want to land a franchise QB you gotta find the guys who eat, sleep, and breathe playing ball that hate losing more than they enjoy winning
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I know the week after the Oilers comeback they beat the Steelers in the playoffs. I forgot who the Steeler was but one of them before the game made the comment their overrated and haven't won anything or something like that. It was actually referenced In The Four Falls of Buffalo.
I sort of remember that as well when I was in grade and school and have never cared for the Steelers/Penguins since. Maybe that came at in impressionable age? Go Preds.
The Bills beating the Steelers in a playoff game...how surreal does that sound now?
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I thought Losman had all the tools and put in tremendous effort. He just wasn't quite up to the NFL level mentally. It's surprising beecause you would think that if a guy has the physical ability and works hard he would have a great chance to make it but no. Who knows why. I can't hate on him.
One of the knocks on Losman was that he didn't put as much effort into being a great quarterback as he could've. He just didn't have that kind of drive to be great. Tremendous effort= Brady, Peyton, etc.
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i can still sing the theme song.
and ninja turtles
and gi joes
There are times when I'd give anything to go back to that time in my life
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I miss the days when we were known as the true 12th Man, just a blue collar, hard-working, hard drinking(that could handle their alcohol) rabid fanbase. They should do a documentary on 80's/90's Bills Fans and show the youngings how to really do it
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I remember the comparisons of being in the mold of Jim Kelly and Brett Favre when we drafted him..and then he turned out to be a surfer dude from Cali who never was truly passionate about football. To this day I still wonder where those comparisons origiated from
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Does he make this effort if Rex is still the coach?
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Really? You need an explanation for that one?
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The beginning of the BBDA....Buffalo Bills Dark Ages. 2005-2012 certainly were not great. Not that it's been all that much better since but they were at least competitive in games.
And what would you consider 2000-2004?
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Winner. If this doesn't sum up the last 17 years than I don't know what will
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I still find myself watching full games from that era on YouTube during the offseason
See and that actually used to be me too up until a couple years ago. I think I had just beaten those years to death. Like it's depressing for sure because I know how awesome those years were but the reality is that was a really, really long time ago now. Think about it this way when Bledsoe got here and we all thought we were ready for another run, we were only one decade removed from the Super Bowl years. I was still OBSESSED with the 90s era I grew up with during that time period.
Their accomplishments are still their own. Nothing can be taken away from the team.
But speaking as someone who actually went to the hof and watched a few of those guys get inducted because of how much they meant to me I can honestly say it doesn't feel the same in my opinion.
It may very well have nothing to do with the Bills. Maybe it's just adulthood, maybe it's just real life things happening making it seem less important and more like a game and entertainment.
Could be a bunch of stuff. But I carve out every Sunday to watch this team, and it always meant so much.
Now, not so much. I'm hoping some meaningful games can change that around for me.
I'm with the OP though. I get it, good or bad I always had the 90's, the squish the fish newspaper cut outs in everyone's windows, the team you knew backwards and forwards, it fueled my positive experience (no matter how crummy the team was playing) for years.
Even those memories aren't getting it done for me these days. I've said it before, I'll always watch, they'll always be my team. But the importance of that seems to be fading.
Maybe the disconnect are the fans ages. Me and OP were kids. These players were basically our heroes. Heroes tend to fade with time. Maybe some if you guys were already adults and it was fun, but these guys weren't like your personal gods like they were to kids in the 90's.
Once again we really seem to be on the same page here. As much as it sucks to admit this, the unfortunate reality of growing up and becoming a real adult plays into it as well. My whole life the Bills were part of a childhood passion that carried on to the hard partying years of high school, college, and even the lingering partying years of late 20's but once you hit your 30's real life comes at you fast and then you have so many other distractions bringing you down its hard to feel intoxicated by the warm feelings of a football team from 25 years ago.
And I'm not celebrating this fact, it absolutely sucks!
I can't be the only poster on this board that was too young to remember the 90's Bills, right?
I'm 30, and I genuinely can't remember a thing from those years.
So imagine being 22, 18. Plenty old enough to be "into" football, but why on earth would you care about the Bills in the same way?
The team beats to death, "love the Bills because you love Buffalo," as if because I reside here therefore I MUST love and worship a for-profit organization, that does all of its business in a white-bread, suburban sprawled, country town 15 miles south of Buffalo.
Maybe it's time to ask them to their job better. I know, I know, "I'm a hater," but seriously how much can they sell "We were really good during the first Bush administration 30 years ago" before it wears off?
That's a whole other discussion, I have been saying for awhile I give the younger kids who are diehard Bills fans today a lot of credit for sticking with this team. If I was growing up during this era I'm not so sure I would be as diehard as I am. Witnessing the 90s glory always gave me the perspective of knowing how good this thing can be.
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Why does nostalgia wear off? It's nostalgia.
I think in the Bills case they've been so pathetic for so long that they constantly have to cram the 90s nostalgia down your throat that it just lost its luster for me.
Like I keep saying, deep down I still love that era but I just wish we could've had some other bright spots over the last two decades so we wouldn't have to always reflect back on the 90s anytime we want to feel good about the Bills.
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I lived off of the feeling from those years for the past few decades.
My basement was completely decked out in 90's Bills memorabilia.
About three years ago i packed it all up and moved on. The Bills are still my team, I'll always get the opening day butterflies, but there's only so long you can look at the same Thurman, Reed, Kelly, Bruce stuff. It started feeling a bit sad like I was living in the past.
I'm hoping one day those old butterflies come back in full force but they've been dying out for years.
Thus fanbase needs something new to cheer about in the worst way.
This post pretty much sums up exactly what I was getting at with my original post
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Shady's a beast, I think most Bills fans absolutey love him. It's just a shame that the rest of the offense isn't built up to be a legit contender right now
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I don't think it has worn off but it really seems like a fictional tale that has grown through the years. If I wasn't there to live it I may not believe it happened at all.
It was fantastic.
Good take, I feel that way too sometimes
I'm not sure what you mean by "nostalgia" somehow "wearing off". Maybe you mean the connection between current fans and those rapidly aging memories ... there's an entire generation of younger fans to whom names like Kelly, Thomas, Reed, and Smith are merely legends because they never saw them play except on YouTube clips. It's what happens as people move further away in time from any event important to them, whether it's the "Glory Years" of a football franchise or some important historical event (like the US entrance into WW I, which happened 100 years ago this year).
The 1990s teams will always be the benchmark that Buffalo Bills teams are measured against until such time as the franchise approaches or surpasses those teams. Unfortunately, that doesn't look likely to happen in the foreseeable future.
I think my biggest gripe is that we haven't had any other good periods of Bills football since then. I'll always appreciate the past and nobody was more in love with that era than me but I also feel like as Bills fans we have collectively beaten that era to a dead horse since we haven't experienced any other joy since then.
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I think some people are misinterpreting what I was meant in my OP. I never stopped watching the Bills or caring this whole time, i just can't keep living off the glory year memories, I need new ones!!! And I think the McDermott/Beane regime is just what we need to finally get over the hump
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The best scenario would be to make a WC in 2017 and continue to improve.
Not sure they get in this year, and I think there will still be quite some rebuilding to do with the roster to bring in guys that fit what McD wants to do
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As I'm sure a lot of you that post on here did, I grew up and fell in love with the Buffalo Bills during the 90's Super Bowl runs. It was an incredible time and really all I knew of Buffalo Bills football(what a sick and twisted joke the next two decades would turn out to be). Even as that era faded away I think it still resonated within a lot of us for a long time afterwards. I know that's true just from the sheer amount of posts on here over the years talking about how we should bring back the K-Gun offense and so and so is the next insert(Bruce Smith, Jim Kelly, Thurman Thomas, etc.)
I remember watching old NFL Films highlights of the 90 and 91 teams to get pumped up about the Bills during the offseasons and even nights before home openers but at some point I just lost the magical feeling. I mean deep down I still love those teams but I just can't reminisce anymore, I tapped that well dry. The Bills organization have been cramming those warm and fuzzy feelings from back then down our throats over the years to distract us from the piece of s*** product they have been putting on the field for the last 17 years. Even by the time the 30 for 30 came out I was kind of over looking back on those years. I think a lot of it has to do with how long we've been bad for and how much the game has changed, it just feels like ancient times now.
Does anybody else share these feelings? if so, can you pinpoint when you began to feel this way?
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I think he got it right with these hires. may not show totally till next season, but it will.
I think it might even take 2-3 years to show but I agree that it will as well. At this point I'd rather it take a couple more years if we are going to be built to last for a long time as opposed to squeaking in as a wild card team only to get bounced in the first round and have to reboot all over again.
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I guess you could say I'm all in since I got my season tickets back this year after swearing off never getting them again
It still might take a couple more years but I'm 95% sure this will be the regime to finally end the playoff drought
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I had taken a few years off, but me and some buddies decided to get back on board after they put together the front office they did. I'm expecting another rough season ahead, maybe two but for the first time in forever I see light at the end of the tunnel. We decided we wanted to be there for the start of the McDermott era because we are pretty confident this is gonna be the regime that will finally end the drought.
JP Losman sighting
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Oh there's no denying our o-line was bad but at the same time what success did JP have after he left Buffalo and no arena football doesn't count
Let's face it he just wasn't a great quarterback and it was an absolutely dumb front office decision to trade up for him, especially when we could've had a shot at Aaron Rodgers the following year