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That is an interesting point. I hadn't thought of that. It is a tough spot to be in.

Thanks D2D, you are very kind to say so. Thank you New Era Hehehe. I understand what you mean BoB. Thank you. I really hadn't thought of it that way too much before. It is a regional thing. Thanks for your feedback and comments Max. You are very welcome Brother ReturnTG Thank you very much Thurmanator. And you make a good point I think that whole Bills Fans raining money on Dalton, and then the receiver too, showed us fans in the best possible light. I think at minimum McCarron will be good for the locker room as they say. And I think he has a legitimate shot to become more than he has so far. It isn't a crazy possibility. Plus, you know, I think it will happen. Even though I don't belive it, I do. Oh well. One thing I got already is I am not worried very much about the draft any more. Anyway I hope in the end, McCarron winds up thinking of Buffalo the same was he thinks of Alabama. Thanks Roch! I hope it means something too! You never know. In the end no matter what happens, good or bad it will all be because somebody made a trade and forgot to send the fax. I hope that turns into the luckiest Fax never sent for us guys here in Buffalo.

Did they publish the Giants entire draft board? Or just this one most critical element of it? I think it is nice how so many teams are sharing their most crucial and secret information with the press this year :>

I don't want him because I don't want the fighting. All we have done for 20 years is fight about the quarterback. I want somebody who can pass the ball better than the rest. We have always had a "yeah but". Always something that supposedly offsets that they dont pass well enough. Trent Edwards had "poise". He was very poised. JP had a "cannon". Couldn't aim it. But wow he was strong. Also we didn't need a good Oline with JP beccause he was nimble. They actually said that. Sound familiar?Fitz was smart. When you are that smart you dont have to throw real well. Ej had "potential" and "The It Factor". Thad Lewis...well I think they were just honest mostly about him. We couldn't get anybody else so we got Thad. So how about this time we get somebody who fits the job description? Is that too much to ask?

IDK?

My recollection is that before the draft. Rodgers was expected to go very high. And I think I remember cameras on him watching him squirm as he "fell" down the board. Do I have that wrong? It could be.

Thanks Kwai! Oh and Jesus did hang around with fisherman. So he likes the water Thanks for sharing the Sister Jean joke Joe. Thats a great one made me laugh! And I like hearing background info about McC and Saban. That's funny and you stirred another memory for me. As a young man we had a few drinks and, .. etc at my friends house when he parents were at the cottage from time to time. He would always go and turn his parents statues and religious pictures around so they couldn't see what we are up to. They would havebeen friends! And Easter, Easter..hmm. It must mean something! I know, I will make some Easter eggs and decorate them like footballs. Same shape. That way I will be ready to celebrate in case something happens! Thanks 3rd you are kind. And we listed on the same station! WSAY. It was such an odd contrast they would stop with the rock and on with the rosary lol. I thunk they had the slogan "Be big. Be a builder" on that station but I never did know what it meant exactly.

Well, I think you didn't. because the disclaimer said, it is long. It said, feel free to skip it. It said, you will miss out on no important information. But still you thought it good and right to hop in here and make a remark that it was too long and you skipped 90% of it. Why?

Wow. That has to be the first miracle! =) Great post thanks.

Thank you for saying so. Maybe if you eat certain things, you could provide the smelting plant odor? Thanks pal. You have always been very encouraging to me and I appreciate that. Thanks very much jkeeri. My condolences for your mom. And yes we were taught something that it was bad to toss it away I am not sure sacrilegious was it but it was something like that. Same as with an old flag as I understand it. You arent supposed to just toss it. Infant of Prague! Thats it. The one with the little globe and a robe on. I love the rain man story! Thanks very much. "Italo-Germano-Irish Catholicism, with bleeding hearts, bleeding sides, bleeding heads, ascending bodies, descending angels and the BVM over all." Best description ever yungmack! lol.

Thanks 716. I like it that your house is that way. It felt like we were the only ones back in the day Oh dear I hadn't thought if that angle Lfod. Thanks Last Guy I appreciate it.,

Thank you Sky Diver. That was really interesting. Wow I didn't know it had been that bad. If I wind up having to sit in a "Rosary Row" at the Ralph, this whole thing will turn into a nightmare! I'll do it, I'll pray the rosary if it gets us wins, but I won't like it!

If you had read the middle 90% you would know that I was saying McCarron is classy. I'm not! No soft target here "Augie" But seriously if you want, I could probably write a children's version for ya.

I heard that is the same thing you that you say to your woman. Well, I think it is mostly because I am here. But also partly because there is nothing happening and no games are being played.

Wow thanks for all that information JoeF. And I have to say I didn't for an instant expect that anybody on the board here would say the rosary! Are you networked in to the rosary people? I was hatching a plan to tell them about AJ and get them praying for him. Like his soul and family and important stuff, and that he wins.

See Dick. See Dick run. Run Dick, run! How's that? Thanks pal.

*** Disclaimer*** There is no football in this at all. No stats, no useful information, no insight, and nothing about the draft. It is just coincidences that happened to me lately that seem weird to me. Feel free to skip it you won't miss any important or relevant football information. And it is very long so please do skip it if you want I assure you that you will miss nothing. ***End Disclaimer*** Anybody with sense wouldn't go posting this stuff about themselves because it is on the weird side. But I never have had that kind of sense when it comes to my Bills posts before, and it is too late to start now. In the last few days AJ McCarron became my favorite NFL quarterback. I think he will be good and I think that for mostly superstitious reasons that I don't believe. I know it is just weird, very unlikely coincidences and I don't believe that they mean anything. Except that I do. It all started back in February I was trying to get rid of some extra stuff around the house and going through old storage boxes. And I come across some of my mother's old religious items that I didn't even know I still had. It is a few old, broken, items of junk actually and she passed away over 20 years ago. I had no intention of saving this stuff. Now my mother was very, very Catholic. Too Catholic if you ask me. Growing up I think we had more religious stuff around our house than many churches. Statues (Several Jesus's, a couple Marys, even a Joseph, and crosses, pictures, etc. Some of the statues even had super fancy little outfits. And we even had a special Risen Jesus statue she put out for Easter. It was 2 feet tall at least. We had a Mary statue in the yard. And the collection kept growing after we kids left the house. We found I bet 100 or 200 rosaries that she made herself because what you do is, make them and send them to the missions overseas. When I was a toddler we had a life size statue of St Jude with glass eyes in the attic. My grandfather had got it from a church somewhere and we were storing it. I don't know what they did with that thing after a while, but I was very glad when it was gone because I was absolutely terrified of it. Just knowing it was up there freaked me out. Now when she died we are all sentimental about all this stuff you know because the emotions are so new but after not long we had to figure out what to do with the stuff. I myself had no need for a baby Jesus all decked out in a sequined outfit, or really any of that kinda stuff. My brother has some of the statues or whatever and the rest we gave to her friends as mementos or whatever way we could pawn it off on people. So what I have here in the box is the broken or damaged stuff we couldn't get rid of. Now if you were raised like I was you know that you can't just put that stuff in the garbage. You have to burn it, bury it, or sink it in water. Things like that which are more respectable. And why I wound up with it still is because I couldn't do that at the time and I put it in a box with other stuff and it just got forgotten about. And where is it now? I still couldn't get rid of it because the ground was frozen and covered with snow! It's still here! And I don't even go to church. But I am not putting it I the garbage because I am my mother's son. So until the ground thaws I have here: A plastic Baby Jesus statue with no head. A plaster Mary statue with no base on it. Two “scapulars”. A scapular is a cloth thing that shows you are devoted to Mary. It started off in the Middle ages pretty much as a front and back apron that you tied with a sash. It had a use, but was also a symbol. Well over time that became these ones which are shrunk to the size of a postage stamp. So you have these little cloth postage stamp sized things , sort of like a front and back medal with a string between them, except they are made of cloth. You are supposed to wear it under your shirt. Then two rosaries made of plastic and string. In case you don't know a rosary is a Catholic prayer bead made in a circle with a crucifix on there, and you pray your way around it. It amounts to 56 Hail Mary's and 9 Our Fathers or close to that. Anyway this stuff took me back in my memory to all about who she was especially when it came to Catholicism and even more especially when it came to her being very devoted to Mary. She said the rosary every day. Went to church every day. There was a bumper sticker on her front door that said “Pray The Rosary” and so on. She was in a group of rosary ladies too. So that stuff is on my mind and also I don't want to forget about that broken stuff again. I want to bury it when the ground thaws. But also I hadn't really thought about how she was in that way, for a long time. The physical objects bring it back. So that was a few weeks ago. Next, I work in a residential setting. So there are a few TVs and one near the office and I hear whatever this or that person is watching in there regularly. Somewhere around the beginning of the month some guy starts tuning in some channel that has people saying the rosary on it. If you haven't heard the rosary said it sounds kind of like chanting because they say the same prayers over and over again. I haven't heard that in ages. It really took me back because when we were kids my mom and dad made us come in at 7 PM weekday evenings, maybe not all the time but a whole lot of the time, and say the rosary. There was a radio program and we would say it along with the radio people. So picture being nine years old and in the summer and outside having fun and it is, “Sorry guys gotta go and pray the rosary or I will get killed”. I remember waiting and waiting and looking forward to when we got back around to the cross on there which means it was over and I was free again. It takes about 20 -25 minutes. I must have done that hundreds or even thousands of times. I was never the kind of person who would get any comfort or benefit from that. All I got was bored, and I certainly pretty much never did it after I got old enough to not have to. So I remembered all that and how, almost militant my mom was about Mary and the rosary being included in the faith which apparently there is some disagreement over. Anyway in 9 years working were I do I never, ever, once heard anyone play the rosary on a TV or radio. Starting around the beginning of May I been hearing it about 3 or 4 days a week which I have not done for about 45 years when I was a kid at home. But now see, I am at work. Can't get away from it. So I gotta listen. Just like when I was a kid. Life is funny sometimes. Except now I can tune it out mentally, I don't have to say it, and I don't have to be bored. But I did think it was an odd coincidence that I find this old stuff of mom's and then right away here comes the rosary. I haven't seen the religious items in 10 or 20 years or so and haven't listened to the rosary in 45 years. Now in the span of two weeks or so I get both. So I thought, I should say hi to mom in the way people do when somebody is gone. I have done that a few times lately. Mostly I have been focused on free agency and the draft like every other right thinking person in Western New York. We didn't get anybody of note in the QB competition we wound up with McCarron who I only remembered as part of the Cleveland Browns fiasco where they inexplicably forgot what time it was and didn't send the trade papers in on time. And that mistake also made it so the Browns still needed somebody and we were able to trade away Tyrod to the Browns. Well they say Beane wasn't really looking for McCarron in particular, and McCarron was kind of limited in his options and so on the 14th we wound up with him because it fell that way. I took a quick look on google and really I saw a guy with very extensive and maybe not so great art-wise giant tattoos all over his chest and shoulders. Beach, bikini girls, trophy wife. Ok, I get the picture. I was kind of surprised that Beane would pick him to mentor whoever we were drafting because he looked like a party kid to me. Then my QB guru friend told me we got the best of all the veteran quarterbacks going around, except for Garopolo. I said better than Cousins? He said yep. So that was nice. But that was about it for me looking into this guy. Until the Jets moved up to pick #3 a week ago and all of a sudden it looks like we might get squeezed out of a top QB pick, possibly. So I am worried ya see. And I decided to look a bit deeper into McCarron because now he might be way more important to us. I started to read and it says “AJ McCarron is a devout Catholic...” I say whaaa? Party boy is a “devout” Catholic? Then ...“McCarron was born and raised in Mobile, Alabama. He attended Our Lady of Lourdes Catholic School from kindergarten to fourth grade” I won't even start with what “Our Lady of Lourdes” meant to my mom. AJ McCarron who made friends with a gravely ill 3 year old little girl called Starla Chapman while he and his family were delivering Christmas presents to the pediatric hospital that had saved AJ's life years before. She gave him a bracelet that said “Just Trust”. He wore it on his throwing hand a week later in the Championship game on national television (they won). She is his God daughter now. So what is he doing with all the gangsta tattoos all over his chest? (Sorry I am old(er). Tattoos like that make me think biker, party boy, gangsta). It didn't fit. I'm blowing up the photos to look and there is a big Jesus face on there about the size of a dessert plate. It also says Ma, Pops, God In Control, all kinda stuff like that in the big tapestry of a tattoo he has. And then I saw that there is a Giant Rosary that goes from his shoulders to halfway down his stomach. That last part with the rosary freaked me out. If you look at that tat the cross on his stomach is the cross on the rosary. The beads are all woven into the design of the tat. I'm older like I say, but is it normal for a youngster to have a giant rosary tattooed on his chest? I know people use them as ornamental. But not like this. I personally never saw anyone do that before in my life. Now if anyone is still reading, I obviously don't expect you to believe that any of this means anything. I don't believe it myself really. But it is not easy being in my skin to ignore it because like I say, I find the rosaries and stuff of my mom's that I thought I got rid of 10 or 20 years ago. Then I am sitting listening to the rosary most every day which I have not heard in 45 years. And then here comes AJ McCarron with a giant rosary tattooed on his chest right when I have actually, literally, been losing sleep over what will happen in the draft. My mom didn't follow football closely. She only cared about football and the Bills because she knew that I did. I think maybe Brandon Beane wasn't especially aiming for AJ McCarron to be a Buffalo Bill. But I think maybe my mom was. And there is zero doubt that if my mom was going to have a favorite QB, it would AJ McCarron. I don't wanna do it. I don't wanna do it I tell ya! But I gotta. AJ McCarron is my favorite NFL quarterback now, because I am my mother's son. GO BILLS!

I'm not trying to make anybody more stressed than we already are. But I have a question and I genuinely don't know. Who on the staff has proven to be good at picking skill players? The most looming pick being the one for QB coming up. Pre-Beane they did a great job picking defensive guys in the draft and free agency.\ Not so much with the offensive skill players we picked up. At least not so far. Beane isn't a scout. He knows about scouting, but he isn't a scout. So who's opinion will count the most? I know we can say they will arrive at a group decision and have blind trust. But do we have anything more than blind trust to go on? I'm just wondering.

You read real thrilling pages turners don't you? Are they thinking of making it into a movie?

Not to be a wise guy, bit I am wondering how "The Darby Trade" is such a prominent point of discussion with all the major stuff that is about to go down.

This is helpful thanks for looking that up Shaw. I think maybe the criteria are harder to meet now because guys opt to come out in their junior year and maybe other changes to the college game. But still it is a nice way to cut through the noise of the draft and at least get some firm point of reference. It is because we haven't had a legitimate starter here in 20 years or more. We don't even know what it looks like. Jim Kelly was on the wane his last year or more. So basically between then and now we had Drew Bledsoe's first year that was legit. And everything else has just been hype out of the Bills and the press(on and off). And when we get to see a top guy come in to play at the Ralph, we are too busy hating him to observe what he does. So against that background Tyrod looked pretty good. You can't really blame people. Some of them have never seen a good starting QB in a Bills uniform in their entire life.

I want to thank you 2 for having the courage to be upfront and honest. Now I can admit that I too have shed many tiers over our quarterbacks.

Y'all want to laugh it up? I SAID you all want to laugh it up? Well have yourselves a funny funny guffaw at this thought. The same head coach that provided that wonderful confidence building experience for Peterman will be spending 3 first round draft picks on the next young QB he gonna develop so well. The same keen mind that sized him up as ready to go, the same towering intellect that prepared Peterman so well, has the future of our unborn future franchise qb in his hands. Ain't that funny?

Time will tell but I don't see him as a downgrade from Tyrod. I think at worst both us and the Browns will be happy at least for a while. The Browns because they will win some games with Tyrod and all they do is lose until now. And us because McCarron will be throwing the ball a lot. All the short stuff in the crossing routes and so forth that Tyrod isn't the best at. So we too will do ok and we will be hopeful that as he gets more experience he will improve on his faults whatever they turn out to be. So we get to have some hope. And he could turn out to be better than that, or so I think.