Acantha

I didn't read much of your post, but from the title, there's only one answer: Treat her like crap.

Iran was SO last week.

Feel better?

Except Belichick has said repeatedly that he thinks he will succeed. And again, you're still missing the point. Why do you insist that I keep saying Tebow will be a great NFL QB? I've never said it. In fact, I think it will take a specific set of circumstances to come together for him to succeed, and the chances of all of it happening are slim. But the fact is, the qualities he does have are qualities that NFL teams look for and have proven to draft high. Even JUST his draw. Hell, there's a 7 page thread on the guy, before he even plays his final college season, on a message board of a team that will never go after him! You don't think there are teams out there salivating over the attention and ticket sales that are possible with a guy like Tebow on the team? Especially a team like Jax or Tampa that could continue to use his FL following. My point has nothing to do with what he will or will not do in the NFL. It's basically been two things. One, you are WAY over dramatizing his weaknesses (in addition to over dramatizing my description of his weaknesses), and two, there is absolutely a chance that he is drafted high. Like I said, as much as people are desperate to compare him to other players, there is no precedent for Tebow. None. Nobody knows what's going to happen with him. And there have been worse players with less potential drafted higher to play QB (Vick is one example).

I was trying to highlight things that were wrong or straight made up in your post, but everything was highlighted, so I said screw it. You either don't watch the games, or are simply lying about what you see. And I've seen you on here rooting on FSU before, so whatever. Keep up the good scouting work. IMO, anyone who makes claims like you do in this post (no QB like Young/Vick will be taken in top 5 again) are just plain ignorant, so I guess we'll just have to disagree. If Tebow were as bad as you keep saying, he would be a horrible QB, no matter what the system. You just don't compete, and win championships, being that bad at throwing the ball. And it's not like all he does is run, his passing stats are outstanding. The truth is in the tape AND the stats. Yes, he has his issues. He tends to push the ball more than throw it, especially on short routes. His passing motion (at least up until now) has been awkward, and he IS slow in his release (the biggest negative he has in his game, IMO). But those are all possibly correctable, and even if it doesn't happen with Tebow, there will always be teams who will take that chance. That said, Tebow CAN throw the ball on a rope, he's done it many times, both short and long. It's all about consistency for him right now. If he can learn to do it all the time, he'll be top prospect. And I don't have to "face" anything. I've made no claims about what Tebow will do in the NFL, nor do I care. But unlike you, I haven't decided to flood a message board with made up crap in order to feel better about myself (or my team). EDIT: . He's still slow with it, but it's a new delivery.

You say he's not working on his throwing motion, yet one of the links provides spells out that he is. You say that he can't make it to the top 10, but he's compared to both Young and Vick, both top 10 picks. Young had more question marks than positives coming out of the draft, and he was taken high. Vick had SERIOUS accuracy issues (and very obvious questions about is ability to actually play QB), yet he was taken first. Phillip Rivers had one of the worst throwing motions I've ever seen coming out of college, and he was top 5. Do you think scouts were telling their GM's/Owners to stay away from these guys, and they drafted them anyway? And even if that's the case, it proves that anyone, no matter what their issues are, can go in the top 10 if they are proven winners and have something (leadership, athleticism, rocket arms, etc...) that teams covet. Basically the only people that go on and on about how Tebow has NO CHANCE in the NFL are FSU fans. It's truly pathetic. He's a unique player that could go top 5 or 2nd round. He could be an immediate bust, or find a niche and become one hell of a player. There's nobody to compare him to, so there's no way to know. But listening to sow fans drone on and on and spread lies about him is just annoying.

Sure. But read the ones you posted first. They're a bit contradictory.

Link?

Should have given him a pole.

I get on a plane Friday. That 5 hours over ocean will be fun.

My pro teams are all like this. My college teams do alright.

Cheaper than a blanket?

She must be freaking out! This has nothing to do with the topic, I was just thinking about today and found it.

I didn't realize until I read it today that VC is worth 16mil this year! I don't see any way the Magic take that contract and still pony up another 9+ mil for Turk. I think he's gone. Hopefully the sign and trade happens though. I'm also hoping that they can keep Gortat around. He came into his own in the playoffs and can really help the team off the bench. I'd like to see him stay. While I still don't like giving up Turk and Lee, the more I think about it the less anxious I get. A starting lineup of Howard-Carter-Nelson-Lewis-Pietrus is a damn tough team. And there's nothing saying that Anderson can't be a helpful piece. I don't know much about him, but what I've read seems to indicate he's a big dude that can shoot the 3, so he'll fit into the rotation. I think if Carter was 29, I'd love everything about it. As it is, I'm up in the air. But whatever happens long term, I think the team is set up to fight for the championship again.

Here, this should help speed the thread up. We'll just say they're all the best.

There's something kind of funny about that fact that every so often, for no apparent reason, the New Zealand police have to take calls and release a statement about the death of Jeff Goldbloom.

I've seen that a few times, but IMO it's a worse trade if Hedo leaves. It's okay to bring in Carter to "put them over the top" and make an all out run at the championship, but Carter isn't going to replace Turk. Turk just fit too perfectly into his role. Losing Turk AND Lee and getting Carter doesn't make sense to me.

Well, you have to figure that they wanted to move Alston anyway. He was only there to cover for Nelson when he got hurt, and they couldn't afford both of them. Battie is a solid vet, but he was scheduled to make over 6 mil this season, and with the rest of the crew it was just too much. He didn't get much playing time anyway. Like I said, I hate seeing Lee go, and it's worse seeing him go for a guy that is only going to be around a couple more years. The deal give the Magic one hell of an offensive line-up (I know Vince's game has declined some, but he's still an impact player and will be HAPPY to be playing in Orlando), but it's going to be a hit on an already sketchy defense. I don't know, I'm torn.

It's a big move, especially if they can keep Turk. It's great and all, but I hate seeing Lee go. I think he's going to be a very solid player. But Carter does give the Magic the best shot at a championship over the next two (maybe 3) years.

I think it has something to do with raccoons and mailboxes.

Of course if the US hadn't intervened in WWI, there's a very good chance the whole Nazi thing never takes off to begin with.

Fighting them off.

Wow.

Some big stuff happening this weekend. While I think there are some big steps to revolution, things are progressing further (or at least faster) than I thought they would. I think Khamenei is almost running down a script of the exact wrong things to do and say through this whole thing.

What a joke.