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He actually said during the press Conference that he was from the Bellichick school of injury reporting (not exact words, but basically) and that he would not say.
Wouldn't it be funny to see Peyton, a guy who has only missed one snap, finally prove his critics wrong and make it to the big game, not be able to play because of a hand injury and we would be left watching the Sorgi led Colts against the Bears in a SB?
I bet you Bears fans wish this could have happened to them, instead of allowing Grossman try to screw them out of a Super Bowl win
Not to worry. Peyton Manning with two broken thumbs, and a shattered leg bone would still be 5x the QB that Rex Grossman is and probably ever will be.
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Another point I think that's worth adressing is the mentions I keep seeing about how much more Peyton has been supported by his surrounding cast throughout his career. A couple related things that ought to be considered:
1) Peyton has also borne the responsibility for calling his own offense most of his career while Brady has not only had Belichik to learn from but also cut his teeth under CHarlie Weiss, one of the best O-coordinators I've ever seen.
2) That all-world WR corps that often absorbs much of Peyton's credit has been the primary culprit in at least 2 and probably 3 of the Colt's playoff exits.
3) To quote Manning, the Colts OLine has at times "had some problems in protection". From last years atrocious outing in which they distributed welcome mats to Dick LeBeau's front7 right up to last Sunday when during the crunchiest part of the game they simply could not keep Manning clean. Brady gets a lot of credit (deservedly so) for his ability to find space within the pocket and buy the extra second, but last weekend was not the first time we've seen Manning spending an inordinate amount of physical and mental energy finding working room.
If the Patriot WR corps had put up some of the gutless stinkers that the Colt WR corps has over the last several postseasons, you can bet your bippy that Brady would not have 3 rings.
Great post.
That was all fixed after Polian cried like a sissy to the league office after the Colts lost to the Pats (yet again)
Is the same year that the Colts receivers were being mugged downfield and the refs refused to call any penalties? And you still have not responded to my page 2 response to you.
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Dawgg I responded to you in page 2 ... I dont believe you replied back yet.
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This is the weakest argument you could possibly make. Harrison came into the league only ONE year before Manning. Note that rookie receivers, regardless of how good they are, RARELY take the NFL by storm. It usually takes 3 even 4 years for them to develop. Same applies for QBs. Manning wasn't that great a QB as a rookie, as is the case with most rookie QBs. You're really reaching deep if you want to use that argument!
The bottom line is Manning has had the benefit of continuity. He had Harrison for his entire career. He has had the same offensive coordinator his entire career. They work together in the offseason and he can pretty much close his eyes and know where Harrison is going to be at any given time. Put Wayne, a Pro Bowler opposite him and a deep threat like Clark at tight end and it's not exactly rocket science to see that he has a distinct advantage over Brady in that regard.
Add to it that they play indoors... I'd say your argument is
Are you saying that the part you cut out of my post was a weak argument or the entire post? I wasn't sure because you cut out a goof half of my post. Just to clarify a few things, Harrison came into the league TWO years before Manning, and In my original post, I was talking about Manning's 2nd year in the NFL, as when Harrison first started to break out. Thus it was Harrison's FOURTH year in the NFL when he broke out, and Manning's second. Manning had a pretty good rookie season also. He threw a bunch of INT's, but to throw 28 TD's as a rookie, is pretty darn good. Heck, Losman doesn't have as many TD's in 3 years, as Manning had in his rookie season.
What I bolded in your response, really perplexes me. Wayne, didn't start doing well until around 2003-2004, and Clark didn't get drafted until 2004. So what is your excuse BEFORE 2003-2004? There were FIVE seasons before that when Manning lit it up, WITHOUT Clark and Wayne. That is what I was saying in the part of my original post that you cut out. Surely it is nice to have them now, but he didn't have them for the first 5-6 years of his career. He had himself, and Harrison.
Add that to they play indoors?
Manning had a 93 QB rating outdoors this season. Sure he did better indoors, but its not like he is faltering to a 70-80 QB rating outdoors. 
LAST year (2005), Manning had a better rating OUTSIDE, than he did in the dome. In 2004, he had a 112 QB rating outside ... should I continue? -
How far did the Patriots get with Branch last year?
A lot of factors contributed to the Pats losing this game. Trading Branch was not one of them.
Do you think Branch would have dropped either pass?
LSI Cadets...shut the !@#$ up already. You are a moron and probably know nothing about any kind of drug.Reche Caldwell is just plain funny looking to me.
Why are you always getting on people for what they choose to post? Why not just ignore them? I agree it was a dumb post, but there is no reason to get rude about it.
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I will ask you 2 questions:
1) Does the fact that Manning has 2 1st round, Pro Bowl WRs and 1 first round Pro-Bowl caliber tight end and another first round RB have any bearing on this?
2) How about turnover. Manning has had the same coordinaor and the same offensive personnel surrounding him for most of his career. For Brady, it is quite the contrary.
In any case, nobody is going to dispute that Manning is a better and more prolific passer. I will say, however, that Brady is the better overall QB. If Reche Caldwell catches that wide open pass (which was on target and an easy TD) we wouldn't even be talking about Manning right now.
I find this point interesting, because pretty much every Patriot fan brings it up in every debate. They talk about the "weapons" Manning has, and thats why he is so good (as if Corey Dillon, Laurence Maroney, and Deion Branch are all nobody's). Yet I find it funny that Harrisons numbers were just "ok" before Peyton Manning 2nd year in the NFL. Before Manning's 2nd year in the NFL, Harrison averaged about 65 receptions, and 7 TD's per year for the previous three years. As I said, they were OK. After Manning's first year in the NFL, Harrison went nuts averaging 103 receptions, and 12.6 TD's per year after that. Thats a 38 reception and 5.6 TD increase per year after Manning came. Also take in the fact that Manning was having AMAZING years with JUST Harrison and Edge. Wayne didnt break out until 2003-2004. Before then he had dismal-OK years of 25-50 receptions. Then Edge in 2001 and 2002 COMBINED for 1651 (avg of only 800+ year) and 5 TD's. Thats COMBINED for TWO seasons (I believe he may have been injured). Keep in mind, that during those TWO years, Wayne wasn't doing much. In 2001, he had 27 catches and in 2002 he had 49. Not great, but OK. So now, Manning has Harrison and Himself. Dallas Clark was'nt drafted until a few years later.
Anyway. This is my point. Sure Manning has talent around him, but if you look at the past he has done it WITH and WITHOUT the talent. He has done it WITH Edge injured, Wayne not doing much, and Clark not even drafted yet. I just think the whole "Manning does it because of ..." arguement is
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Superbowl 25 will re-air on the NFL Network on Thursday at 8:30 p.m. This is the original broadcast.
Also, Since I'm one of Peyton Mannings biggest critics on this board I thought I'd give him some credit because he got to the Superbowl and he did it the hard way. I don't think the Colts will win because Chicago is the better team.
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... and NE is up 17-7 over the Jags!!!
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Didnt Jarthur say the game was over? HAHA
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Wow! Free 3 points!
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They better line 5 receivers up and toss the ball in the endzone. The Saints proved it CAN work a few weeks ago.
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WHAT GNSLKFS**#$UR(@#@(R#J$@NMA
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What in the world is going on with our special teams all year ... jeez.
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I love the game thread. One person asks a question and 5+ people answer. Its fun to see everyone's differentiating views on one play.
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Lindell made that by about the length of the football off of the right (looking straight at it) goal-post.
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WOW he BARELY made that
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WOHOOO! 34 yard line!
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Yeah thats why I tend to only look at the SCORES of the games we need every 10 minutes or so, instead of watching it play-by-play. Too much stress otherwise.
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NICE! Stop D! Good play Clements.
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Nice sack by Schobel ... jeez I dont like flags.
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We had 3 straight first downs going there.
SB XXV Game Thread
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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I guess I'm the only one who enjoys watching the SB games over again. At least it makes me feel good that we actually GOT there, and didn't consistently miss the playoffs during that span. I would take a loss in a SB, over consistent no-playoff years.