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They might go for a 1st round corner even if Gilmore stays. Try to keep this news a secret to the Bills. Wouldn't it suck to have another Whitner/Youboty team destroying draft?

Wow, Greg Cook? I am thinking that only a few of us on this board remember him. He was absolutely great, to the extent that if he was a rookie today, he would be the top pick in virtually any draft. Another from that era who had it all and had his career cut short was Bert Jones. I honestly believe that Jones had as much talent as Elway. Jmo.

Yes NS, this is, and was at the time my train of thought. It would have been very bad for the team if he was successful in his attempt to sign either or both of them, and I was concerned about it at the time. I am NOT saying he is horrible in all aspects of his job. I do however think that he is a bit amateurish in dealing with agents and other GMs. Hey, jmo.

Who would you rather have on the Bills, Watkins or Donald, another 1st round pick and a 4th? Just asking for the sake of discussion. Btw Badol was on this board before the draft telling us how good Donald was. I mainly watch the SEC and had never heard of him.

Whaley has a decent eye for talent. But let's not pretend that he didn't try to re-sign Spiller and Byrd. I take that back, make believe as you will. The thing is, he over-pays and gives away draft picks that the team needs. #Draft Picks Matter!

Very tough to compare GB but I happen to think that he is. He seems to be one of the most organized people on the planet and his work ethic is beyond question. Saban was a big reason why they beat Clemson. The coaching was as good as it gets. The team that beat Notre Dame had little to no chance of losing. They were miles ahead of other teams. This year is different yet again. The defense is very strong and deep. And you can bet that they will get better if they stay somewhat healthy. Da'Shaun Hand (#9) is a sophomore and he gets better every game. They are quite deep with other young players. Alabama and even Saban obviously can be beat. I have no idea if they can win a title, or even make the playoffs with a true freshman qb, and there are lots of tough teams out there. But I will say that Saban and the Tide are obviously pretty good themselves.

You know, this game was what I always wanted from Rex. He went with a defense that attacked the quarterback. If this continues, they will continue to win games!!! Btw, not every poster who found fault in Rex was completely down on the Bills. I for one thought that his non-aggressive system was awful. I stand by that assertion. I was also a HUGE supporter of Tyrod. I said it before and I repeat: Tyrod and qbs like him are the future of the game. There will ALWAYS be a place for great throwers such a Manning, Brady and Luck, but there are only so many of these guys. Great game Tyrod!!! GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Great post! My take is that Whaley, like Rex, has little to no discipline. A new, huge contract for a guy called "Shady?" The Watkins deal? Who was the rb he gave a 4th to Philly for? How much for Clay? Whaley imo is a decent judge of talent. I happen to think he lacks the maturity and self control to do business with polished GMs.

Sure, many people consider the greatest coach in college football history a joke. Jealous, teary eyed fans of opposing teams fans are cracking up laughing every time he gets handed a championship trophy, right? Nobody is perfect. Urban Meyer has some extremely serious issues but I am not going to ridicule him He is a great coach and he seems like a decent man. And if he coaches until 2050 or so, he might win as many championships as Coach Saban.

Not to mention a slew of free agent dbs.

Was your first sentence a typo?

You are correct but none were dominant and this list includes players drafted at #8, #10, and #11, none of which were good draft selections for the Bills. The evidence really is clear. The Bills concentrated on secondary help more than pass rush, blocking, or even the QB position. Then, they lost games and failed to make the playoffs. The fact that all of those guys didn't completely suck has no meaning when your football team is losing for 17 years.

Whaley hasn't changed since he got here. I liken him to a drunk kid away at college with an unlimited credit card. Whaley has no control of his spending habits be it money or draft picks. He does need to be fired. Sure, and even throw in a scouting team. It would be almost impossible to do a worse job than our GMs.

Wow, is this serious? Look, I am not a fan of Whaley or the trade, but Sammy Watkins is a very talented player.

Hey my Ohio friend: 1) How about if we agree to disagree about Saban owing redemption? Nick and Terry Saban donate HUGE money to charity, are very active in their church, and along with the players, rebuilt the homes of poor people that were damaged by tornadoes and hurricanes. 2) I have NO problem that we were defeated by Ohio State. Again, 7 years, 4 championships. 3) As far as Ohio State Fans not being envious, this may speak for the majority but again, read #2. 4) I urge you to re-watch the title game vs. Clemson. They beat the Tide statistically. I really hope to live long enough to see a Bills game coached as perfectly as the Tide were coached by Saban. That on-sides kick really might have been the best coaching move I ever saw. 5) It's great to chat with you and GB above. 6) Go Bills!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It really is all good!!!

And your pool of salty jealous tears my friend is obviously Olympic sized. But no matter what happens between now and next year, the University of Alabama Crimson Tide are the National Champions for the 4th time in 7 years. PS: I am guessing that if Saban would coach for your favorite team, you would be pretty happy.

Redeem himself to who? To you? To Ohio State Fans? Haters are going to hate Saban no matter what he does, wouldn't you say? Much of the college football community is already swimming in a pool of jealous tears. Your post is a good example.

So ya think he was just that great against Alabama? I am thinking that he was closer to pretty good than he was to great.

Great closing to a great post! It's easy for most to see just how bad Rex is. My question is: When does Whaley also get held responsible for this sad circus? Are you sure? Saban, a Belichick disciple, claims to prepare his team more to do their individual jobs and less for the particular team they are facing. I heard him say this but then again, it might not be the truth.

This is SO true. What I don't understand is why. Would you please tell us why you think Rex would change from a swaggering tough guy to an oversized Dick Jauron? This is what I just can't figure out. Has there ever been a highly successful defensive coach who was not aggressive? Also, doesn't the fact that the game is now a passing game increase the need for pass rush? I have seen Von Miller take over games and win them for his team. Our linemen are dancing, jumping and/or in pass coverage. I don't understand.

>>>>>Rex took a top 5 defense and made it the laughing stock of the league. The race to the bottom churned into a new gear when he hired his brother. Brandon, Whaley and the Pegulas should have known better.<<<<< John, how was the above sarcastic or troll bait? Our defense makes that of Jauron look efficient and aggressive. It is sickening to watch. The poster might not be saying what you want to hear, but it doesn't make him wrong.

OK, THAT was funny!!!

38-35 Cards. Tyrod plays well but the Bills bring no pass rush and get picked apart.

I think that Marlon would go sooner if he was just a tad faster. That said, he certainly does have great skills. It will be fun to see where these guys go.