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  1. 19 minutes ago, SCBills said:


    Oh, I’d move Diggs for a 1 in a second given the cap lifeline provided that could help us eat the accelerated dead cap. 
     

    I just don’t think the Bills will do that. 
     

    But if a team with a young QB who wants to give them a proven high level WR instead of gambling on a draft pick wants to call up Beane with an offer, I’d love to hear the inner FO discussions on that. 

    My guess, and this is just a hunch, is that they would be very quick conversations, maybe involve a check with Josh and a promise to him to take two WRs in the first three picks, and conclude with a heartfelt thank you to Mr. Diggs for his time here.  

  2. 3 minutes ago, SCBills said:

    Let Gabe & Sherfield walk / cut Harty

     

    If we are to hand out one legitimate FA contract (outside Jones and/or Epenesa), it should be for a vet outside WR. 
     

    Head into the draft with Diggs, Shakir, FA, Shorter.

     

    Shakir is the slot and we’d be smart to plan on using Diggs more in the slot as well. Kincaid & Cook will also play some slot.  
     

    Draft two outside WR’s.. One in RD1 or RD2 and one early Day 3. 
     

    Totally agree. Although, if someone wants to give us a 1 for Diggs, I'd strongly consider it.  Better to be a year too early than a year too late in moving on from him.  And, with the depth of the WR class, loading up with two early picks at that position could set us up for quite some time there (assuming, of course, that we hit on them). 

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  3. 6 hours ago, Doc said:

     

    Hey, since we're dusting off oldies like "Russian collusion"...

     

     

    No it's not "doc."  Maybe Joke will do something about this unlike the lip service he paid to Kashoggi when he was campaigning from his basement.  Wait, what am I saying?

    I can’t say I disagree about Kashoggi.  We essentially ignored it because those scum bags had something we needed.  Still, there’s no excuse for condoning or ignoring or not speaking against what happened to Navalny. 

  4. 4 hours ago, Doc said:

    Did Joke tell Navalny's parents that Putin also killed his son Beau?

    Nah, he was trying to offload all that extra HCQ that Jared and the Don convinced Oklahoma to buy so he didn't have time. 

    4 hours ago, Tiberius said:

    Has Trump said one negative thing at all about mass murderer Putin yet? 

    No, and he won't.  And his acolytes will twist themselves into knots trying to figure out how to avoid it and/or defend it.  

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  5. 2 minutes ago, Bob Jones said:

    You know what? The Bills did a great job with putting a total lid on ANY info about Kim Pegula…for Six Months…when she disappeared from public view. Nobody in the media even dared ask a question about her.

     

    They could have showed some loyalty and done the same thing for Matt A. After all, I always hear/see/read that the Bills organization are one big “family”, right? And that includes Bills fans too. They certainly didn’t treat Matt A. like family. After an initial presser (after the bogus lawsuit was made public), they could have shut down any & all media questions & inquiries by stating at that first presser that they would not be addressing it again. But that would have taken brass balls by Beane & McClappy, and they obviously have no such cajones.

    Give me a break.  They made a business decision, plain and simple. I'm not thrilled with everything that McBeane does, but to suggest that those guys lack guts or fortitude . . . is nuts.  

     

    The analogy you attempt to draw between this situation and the Kim P. situation is inapt.  The Bills had a measure of control over the Kim P. situation.  Everyone who dealt with her in Florida signed a confidentiality agreement. Local media was politely told that the story was off-limits, and that anyone who tested that edict would find various other things, such as their press pass, off-limits as well.  By contrast, the Bills had no such means to control the Araiza accuser, her attorney, or any aspect of that story other than Araiza's employment status. 

     

    Finally, while we're on the subject of "cajones," perhaps if Araiza had such fortitude and, simultaneously, a set of clean hands, he wouldn't have discontinued his defamation action against his accuser.  But he did.  And here we are. 

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  6. 36 minutes ago, SCBills said:

    I'm open to trading Diggs, eating the cap, and then drafting multiple WR's.. say RD1 and RD3.  

     

    But trading Diggs and then signing a big name WR makes no cap sense. 

    This is sort of where I’m at.  I have good reason to believe this guy is a difficult human.  People like that make for a bad work environment.   If we can remove him at fair value, replace him with young talent (draft two of them, maybe sign a vet on a one-year deal to be sort of the old guy in the room), and spread it out between Kincaid, Cook, Shakir, and the two new ones, then I’m good with the reboot.  It’s actually the far better play from a long-term cap perspective, and it might even be a wiser short-term play. 

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  7. 5 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

    One of my favorite Bills ever.  
     

    You either get it or you don’t.  Best type of ability is availability and he played, did the dirty work, and was on the receiving end of my favorite Jim Nantz calls of all time.  

     

    That doesn’t mean I’m not disappointed in how 2023 played out because I am.  But I’m blaming the Dorsey scheme and subsequent difficulties of adjusting on the fly - oh and he may have been battling the ankle for a few years now.  

    I love the guy for the reasons you stated, but he's done here.  It ended on MNF against Denver with the drop.  I wish him luck wherever he goes--except against us--and I hope he gets paid and has a great career.  But I think both sides here need to move on. 

    27 minutes ago, Bills!Win! said:

    He’s just a modern day Sammy Watkins. Move on. 

    I'm going to go with Bob Woods on this one, although I acknowledge that they are different types of receivers.  Nice player, might have a nice season somewhere else, always willing to do dirty work.  But as a WR, just sort of slightly above average, in a different way from Woods.  No shame in that, but he shouldn't get big bucks here.  

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  8. 13 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

     

    No he didn't. His defense stopped Mahomes multiple times while Kyle's offense was stuck in neutral failing to remember they had Christian effing McCaffrey to hand it to. Then the special teams screwed up and handed the Chiefs a score. 

     

    I am not a huge Steve Wilkes fan. I didn't like that hire to start with. But his defense was not the problem on Sunday.

    Completely agree.  That game was lost because SF’s O couldn’t put the nail in the coffin.  SF D gave up an average of five points a quarter.  That should have won the game. 

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  9. 1 hour ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

    WR, DL, Safety, WR, DL then fill in with BPA.  I'm sick of Josh getting crap for WR targets.  Give the man a legit #2 in this draft that can push Diggs and supplant him at #1 going forward. 

    Not that I’m in favor of this but if we plan on playing more man next year and Elam gets his act together a very easy thing to improve the d would be to flip one of Douglas or Benford to safety and to then invest that pick elsewhere.  (I’m totally against moving Benford, FWIW, but the thought exercise there is a reasonable one.) 

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  10. 6 hours ago, SCBills said:

    Von will have a big year 

     

    Spencer Brown will become a premier RT

     

    Taron Johnson is overrated

     

    Our Offense would be better off if we found a way to trade Diggs 

    Agreed on ##2 and 4.  Hopeful on #1.  Disagree on #3. 

     

    Here's my unpopular opinions: Dawson Knox is wildly overrated, Gabe Davis sucks, and Kaiir Elam could be an important piece of the D next year.

     

    EDIT: one more - 

     

    If we can get a 2024 #1 for Diggs, he should be out of here on the next flight.  Deep draft at WR, could even take two in the first round, and affords an excellent change to either trade way up (two 24 #1s plus a 25 #1 gets us pretty far up the board) or reload with some good, young, cheap talent in a year where the cap is an issue.  

  11. 9 minutes ago, jkeerie said:

    Reid learned about winning in the playoffs from all his experience...much of which was losing.  I think McD is learning.  It would have been interesting to see how things would have played out had the injury bug not hurt the Bills so much.

    I agree.  The roster needs to get a lot younger and fresher.  

    It has already started.  Shakir Kincaid Torrence cook Bernard Benford.  Time to supplement on O and get fresher on D.  We need to nail the draft and maybe lean into a different direction on D (more man next year?) but we are headed in the right direction. 

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  12. 53 minutes ago, uticaclub said:

    Are we trading Josh?

    Even thought we are close, we have never been further away. You never tried and tried and tried and still didn’t succeed. Are you 5’8” and have you tried to dunk a basketball?

    Quitter. I know what it’s like to lose.  Moreso, I strongly suspect, than just about everyone here.  It hurts.  But the best way to avoid losing again is to get up and chase your goal harder.  I might lose again next time, but it won’t be for lack of effort or desire.   The only thing than one accomplishes by giving up is ensuring that she/he will never meet that goal. 

  13. 10 hours ago, Warcodered said:

    That's how I feel hit until it breaks, we keep getting shots at it, hurts when we come close and don't make it, but what's the other option give up, ***** that.

    You got it.  Anyone who feels otherwise is a quitter.  The reality is that we are very close.  Maybe even one Chris Jones bull rush away from taking them out.  Keep on grinding and whaling away in that rock and it will break.  Just like anything and everything else in life. 

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  14. 17 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

     

    Oh joy! You've found your ErieCountyBulls for this season and he's a poster on this board. Wonderful. I can't wait to hear "BuffaloBaumer said" up until the Draft, like it's some sort of proof positive smoking gun to this nonsense.

     

    Houston makes very little sense. They have Nico Collins, Tank Dell, John Metchie, and Robert Woods. They've spent a 2nd and two 3rds over the past 3 Drafts to acquire them and are in really good shape in that room. Now they're going to pay for Diggs' massive bag of money and spend a 1st as well on top of all of that, when their room is already very good and growing/developing?

     

    Now let's look at the next part of it that makes no sense - why would we help Houston? They, like us were one of the final 4 teams in the AFC. We're in direct competition with them. So now we're going to give them a final piece to help push them over the top? In our own path? In exchange for a lottery ticket and paying money out of pocket to do so? No f'n way.

     

    Even if you were to entertain the idea that trading him is possible or likely, which it absolutely isn't - we wouldn't trade him to an AFC contender.

    I'm not saying that I think this is going to happen, but maybe they're sick of his childish BS, the attendant headaches, and the friction with the boss (Josh Allen), and Houston is one of few available destinations for him with the contract. The other possibility, of course, is that he's such a toxic butthole behind the scenes that sending him to a rival might be addition by subtraction for us and subtraction by addition for them. 

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  15. 3 hours ago, Beck Water said:

     

     

    OK apologies in advance if this is boundary pushing, please feel free to tell me to "stand down".    Someone  in the Buffalo press corps, or maybe it was Cover1, commented that with regard to Allen and Diggs "the Bro-mance is definitely over". 

     

    Publicly, Josh is still very consistent and strong in support of Diggs: "that's my brother" "competitor" "he understands we can't force the ball to him".

     

    Publicly, Diggs is NOT strong in support of Allen.

    Any insight there?

     

     

    It wasn't training camp, it was optional "organized team activities", and then there was that weirdness where Adisa Bakari (Diggs agent) said he was given permission to leave by McDermott after discussions with McDermott and Beane regarding some issue he had.  I'm not defending Diggs - I think it's a very bad look when a team captain storms out of the building or refuses to talk to the press. 

     

    I am pointing out if people are still defending Diggs, it's because the picture has been muddled and there isn't definitive information out there (not to be interpreted as an attempt to get you to "spill the tea", just a point that there isn't spilt tea)

    None.  

    4 hours ago, nedboy7 said:

    Diggs is a problem and you can clearly tell from the way Josh was interacting w his this season. 

    This is just a guess, but my bet is that there are a lot of people in the facility exhausted by his BS.  

  16. 1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

     

    Speaking for myself - There are times where I will hear something that I know will never be officially confirmed, and it just doesn't feel right to post those stories here since inflammatory unconfirmed stories don't breed good discussion. A couple other times I've heard something where the source of the report would be obvious so I won't post it. So I tend to report things like injury news or imminent signings I hear from my source where I know it will be confirmed before long and there's no direct link back to my source.

     

    For the record I am also aware of one stunt that Diggs pulled this season which was very immature and directly impacted the team, and I know for a fact it is a different instance from what @SectionC3 is referring to, but for the reasons I outlined above I don't feel comfortable giving out the full details.

     

    Suffice it to say Diggs has built a reputation of being a headache, and that reputation extends beyond what is publicly reported. A couple other posters on here have alluded to other instances as well. It's no big secret that Diggs has an attitude problem. My personal opinion is that the attitude is worth the player we got in 2020-2022 but not worth the player we got in the final 10 games of the 2023 season.

    This.  Huge attitude problem is an apt characterization.  Also maybe not an idiot, but does some things that an idiot would do. 

  17. 3 hours ago, Mango said:


    I’ve been critical of Diggs antics the last season or two. But honestly, since camp broke he’s been great all season. I was super happy. 
     

    This Pro Bowl thing is a total nothing-burger. And I like to read too much sometimes and make something-burgers out those things.

     

    That said, maybe he is unhappy here and wants out? Maybe he loves it here and the franchise is over him. Maybe everything is totally cool and he retires a Bill. 
     

    But the one thing I am certain on is that if either party feels like they have to get out the difference between -$48M and -$51M in cap space won’t hold it back if it gets to that point. 

    He was a headache in at least one instance behind the scenes.  "Antics" is the perfect word for it.  

  18. 1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

    Speculation going around that Diggs recently reached out to a retired Texans WR about the city and organization & has built a relationship with Stroud

     

    If he doesn’t want to be here, send him out.

     

    Diggs + 3rd in 25 + 5th  for HOU 23rd overall

     

    add more / higher rounds if needed

     

    I want two 1sts for 2 WR’s

     

     

     

     

     


    this is simply not true.  The Bills can create 19 million in cap space this year if he’s traded and it’s designated post June 1st

    At this point, in this draft, with Shakir having come on and Kincaid looking like a superstar in the making, I would be very, very, very tempted by that proposal. 

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  19. 24 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

    All the way up to this season I tried so hard to defend him.  But I can't do it anymore.  Between his silence and tweeting innuendos,  along with zero information about his so called injuries, I don't know what to make of him anymore. Maybe we get 1 more decent year out of him but his intense chemistry he had with Josh is probably over. His contract is brutal, as is Von & Tre.  Just start drafting a bunch of wrs please.

    He’s been a butthead behind the scenes.  I’ll leave it at that. 

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