[Trump Summons Boebart To White House Over Discharge Petition]

1 minute ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said:

He ran on defeating medicare.

 

Either way anyone involved should be thrown into a bottomless pit, agree?

No argument about the pit here.  Adios to all of those guilty here.  

[Diggs' Drama]

6 minutes ago, frostbitmic said:

Diggs is ...

 

A very good WR

A player who wants to win

A player who lets his emotions get to him

 

Diggs > Sanders, Palmer and Moore put together ... Coleman doesn't seem to GAF.

 

While he was here I think he had issues with Brady, McDermott and at times Josh.

 

He played great for us and would still be our #1 WR, I'd root him on if he wasn't a patriot.

He dropped the dime that would have probably at least got us to OT against KC.  Took the whole game to set him up for that drop. 

[DT T.J. Sanders and S Damar Hamlin to Injured Reseve]

On 10/22/2025 at 11:51 AM, Blackbeard said:

Wouldn't we want Damar over Poyer at this point?

Having watched them both, no.  Not that either is good. 

[Three Minutes Missing From Video of Epstein "Suicide"]

36 minutes ago, Wolfgang said:

 

 

 

You are rationalizing your inaction as a citizen...

 

And now you are projecting that inaction on to me...

 

You complain all day everyday without ever lifting a finger to petition your government...

 

This is the lazy idiocy that inspires me to post obnoxious videos to r*****s such as yourself...

 

Your wish is my command...

 

I will now respond to your posts with stupid videos just as you requested...

 

Have a nice day...

 

 

 

 

 

You respect a rep that DOESN'T want the files released?

 

Interesting...

 

Did he say why?

He said he reads this message board and he thinks that the goofs like you and Anus Man are right that this is a big democratic hoax.  

 

[Three Minutes Missing From Video of Epstein "Suicide"]

1 hour ago, Wolfgang said:

 

 

 

Did you contact your Senators and Congressman to demand the release of these files?

 

If not, why not?

 

And if you did, when?

Took my rep to coffee.   Shared a donut.  He’s gonna vote no.  I disagree with him.  (But still respect him.) 

[Ghislaine Maxwell clears Trump - Because nothing says ‘credible’ like a prisoner begging for parole]

12 hours ago, JDHillFan said:

Are you taking what Epstein has to say as gospel?

Are they admission against interest,  Anus Man? 

[Three Minutes Missing From Video of Epstein "Suicide"]

This whole thing is sick.  Just release the friggin files.  Trump has become exactly what his followers voted against.  Rich guy covering up abuse of little people.  

[Jobs]

2 hours ago, SCBills said:

Have to say that I agree with this. 
 

 

This is not a political observation.  It’s a practical one.  I agree with what you said.  And I fear that nobody in charge is smart or energetic enough to deal with the AI ripple that may well become a tidal wave.  Trump and Biden both are long past prime.  Harris would not have been all that much better.  JD is, in my view, not a guy who’s gonna get elected for a variety of reasons. America is dying for someone young, normal, energetic, and thoughtful. 

[$55m to run 13]

57 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

It's what worked for Brady, Mahomes, Manning, and countless others.

If you want a high flying offense, enjoy the division championships and early playoff exits.

Apparently the theory is that a clunky offense with a mediocre defense will yield a different result.  I suppose it will, because if this keeps up someone is getting fired. 

[$55m to run 13]

5 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

correct

 

been saying this since they promoted brady. you don't need a qb like allen for this system and his trade value would be enough to shore up the entirety of the roster 

I rather not trade him and get the defensive line right so there’s more assets in terms of draft capital and financial capital to dedicate to receiver. It’s harder to find Josh than it is to find the other things. And, if we’re successful in the Joe Brady system, then we probably end up paying someone like Brock Purdy $55 million anyways do the same nonsense that Josh is doing right now.
 

I’d rather play to Josh‘s strength. But we simply don’t have the personnel to do that right now. It’s a huge indictment of Beane.  Can’t find defensive lineman. Can’t find receivers. Can’t be here moving forward unless this gets fixed immediately.

[$55m to run 13]

29 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

It's championship style football. We tried 7 years of letting Josh be superman and it was never good enough when the games mattered. Championship teams, and more importantly Dynasties, control the clock from the get-go. Josh is going throw growing pains in this style, which is the same way he was struggling when Dorsey was doing the same thing. He's going to need to figure out how to get past it.

The way to win with a guy like Josh is for him to make a handful of big plays in the biggest spots, not on every drive. When the Patriots and Brady were at their best, they were downright boring to watch. When they aired it out all over the place, they usually came up short int he big moments.

Do we have the right play caller/play designer for an offense like that? Probably not. That's the problem, not the strategy.

If this is the plan then we’re better off having traded Josh, signed Dan Jones, and used the picks plus the $40m savings to boost the rest of the roster.  And maybe designed the defense to be heavier.  The strategy is not terrible,  but it’s too inflexible, too overused, and doesn’t play to our strengths.  

[50 year mortgages]

23 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

I think the unique aspect of the inflation under Biden was the standard government money giveaways were accompanied by COVID era shutdowns of the economy. Which meant that at the same time demand was being juiced up by floods of money into the hands of consumers along with policies like eviction moratoriums and suspension of payments on things like student loans which put even more discretionary income into the hands of consumers. At the same time the supply of goods and services was being constrained by shutdown policies. So behold, demand outran supply and prices rose!  

 

If anyone isn't paying attention Trump's inflation is going to be something different. That plan is to aggressively cut rates. Throw out the Feds 2% inflation target policy. Create an economic boom in demand and supply by opening up the money supply flow in an attempt to grow significantly the economy at a higher than the rate of inflation all this is going to create.

 

Where the idea of on-shoring a lot of lost production comes in is that in recent cycles all that benefit of increased demand for production was provided by corporations producing goods in other countries and the moving of production out of the US. All the benefit went to other countries. With domestic production, at somewhat higher costs and consumer prices, the benefit of the supply side is kept in the country. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Another instance of mutual responsibility.  Yes, under Biden, there were walkbacks and probably some periods of shutdown, but that's only part of the story.  Similar approaches were taken under Trump, and it's reasonable to conclude that had Trump taken COVID seriously (no masks, no social responsibility, taking the vax, then hinting against it, following his Lysol idiocy and the friggin charade on the rotunda saluting a helicopter after he damn near died of the virus) then we would have had fewer restrictions later.  

 

Trump's inflation, frankly, is a continuation and an exacerbation of the Trump/Biden inflation that started in 2020 and that still has not been adequately addressed.  Now, Trump is compounding the problem by suggesting more free money (something that's free, of course, has no value) following his tariff/tax hike on American consumers.  All of the jive about "economic boom" and "increasing supply" isn't going anywhere when consumer confidence is in the pits.  Add in AI job cuts, and an otherwise contracting job market, and problems are on the horizon.  Meanwhile, the sycophants follow along with whatever crazy idea a guy who, if not in the public eye, probably would have issues keeping his driver's license comes up with.  The whole thing is madness.  

[50 year mortgages]

21 hours ago, Wolfgang said:

Remove millions of illegals, and property values drop precipitously...

 

Problem solved...

Hoax. 

[Coaches are heavily implying that Coleman isn’t trying on the field]

5 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

Well, if "it all" you mean that McDermott says that every player out there has moments like that, and that that does include Coleman, then yeah, that does indeed say it all.

 

To repeat McDermott's exact words .... "There are times just like any player or any performer where it is exactly where it needs to be, and there are times where when it's not, and then we have to address it."

 

So yeah, he does have moments like that. Like every player. Perfection is unattainable. The question is whether Keon is doing this at a higher than normal, concerning percentage of the time. He certainly has, as his benchings attest. But McDermott doesn't address whether that is still a problem.

 

I'm not saying it's not. I'm just saying we don't know, and certainly not from McDermott's words here.

 

 

Where does it say "every" in the quote you provided?  It doesn't.  It also doesn't say "no."  That's the point.  If it wasn't an issue, then the answer would have been "no."

[Who do we want, who do we need as our next HC and, or GM?]

10 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

If I was moving on (I'm not there yet but open to the idea that I might be in January) then for coach Klint Kubiak and I have no idea on GM. I'd honestly hire the coach and let them pick their GM. When I look across the NFL the last 15 years that model has worked a lot:

 

Carroll chose Schneider; Reid chose Dorsey and then Veach; Shanahan chose Lynch; McDermott chose Beane.

 

I think synergy in that relationship really matters and unless you have an elite GM in situ where you make the coach the interchangeable part I'd start with the coach then go from there.

Thai is plenty logical to me, but I’ll add that 17 has to sign off on the coach.  If I’m him, I’m not splitting time on opposite coasts convincing my wife to spend a solid three months a year on a gray atmosphere that is super conducive to football and work but not great for someone used to a different lifestyle who can’t work here UNLESS it’s worth it. Worth it has to mean good culture and fun on and off the field.  It’s probably why guys like Knox are still here (although I have it on good authority he was shopped prior to the deadline).  Those thoughts lead me to someone proven (say Matt LaFleur if he gets canned) or much more likely someone familiar (Daboll or, here it is from left field,  Davis Webb). 

[Who do we want, who do we need as our next HC and, or GM?]

6 minutes ago, harmonkillebrew said:

It is going to take a major, continued screw up for Terry to replace Beane and McD. 

It's nice to dream but that's all we're doing. 

Agreed.  And I really think McSchottenheimer is safe.  
 

If I’ve learned one thing about Sean, it’s that he will sacrifice others to save himself.  The no show on 13 seconds.  Canning Farwell and then Dorsey.  DC changes.  If the pattern persists, the next logical sacrifice is … the GM. 

[Who do we want, who do we need as our next HC and, or GM?]

Schoen and this is where it gets tough.  Probably Daboll,  and I recognize the insanity of taking the guys the Giants fired.  But I don’t know that I’d swap out both GM and coach.  If it’s one or the other,  then it’s easy.  Beane is gone.  He fell in love with his guys and did a lot of overpaying and frankly missed too much.  This years WR room did it for me. 

[$55m to run 13]

2 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

He isn't quick enough off the line or nuanced enough as a route runner to be a full time slot WR. He does his one trick extremely well, possibly better than any WR in the league (when he's fully healthy). You think back to when Beasley was in his prime, Allen would hit the top of his drop and the ball would be out because Beasley was already open. You don't get that with Shakir. Either you get him a manufactured touch with a YAC opportunity or you have to wait for him to work open after the initial read of the play has passed. The fact that he's our best WR is a major condemnation of the job this front office has done.

Top of the drop is a great point.   He hits it now and with the exception of Kincaid nobody is open. 

[$55m to run 13]

6 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

The reason he isn't running is because every defensive line is keeping a spy or spies on him and focusing on containing him.  Whenever he does take off the defenders close on him fast and its usually a loss of yardage.  Its similar to way we try to play Lamar and the way we just played Mahomes.  Seems to be why rolling to his right isn't a cure all this year.  And since our WRs cant get open, nobody is scared of an 8 second scramble drill.

Also the field is more condensed with the tight splits and lack of wideouts,  

[50 year mortgages]

17 hours ago, OrangeBills said:

 

1) every mortgage in the last 3 years was made thinking it would be refi'd later

 

2) I'm not saying these are "great" loans...they are effectively Leases where we build Equity at a slower rate

 

3)  There are other factors at play in Real Estate, like location, property type, etc

 

These are Biden-covered glasses comments, and again operating in a vacuum

 

You can't just look at "Mortgage Rates" without looking at the Price function.  The fact is when rates were very high, prices were much, much lower than they are today (obviously adjusted for inflation)

 

The cost of building materials SKY-ROCKETED for 3 years, tariffs have had very little to do with it.  Inventories generally run 3-6 months so those tariff increases would have just started hitting.  

 

You are correct that the problem is price.  

 

I agree with a lot of this, except for blaming it solely on Biden.  If we want to talk seriously for a moment, both Trump and Biden are responsible for inflation.  Pent up demand (Trump), low supply (Trump, and later Biden), and then free money (Trump) led to a problem that was not adequately resolved (Biden) and arguably compounded with additional free money (Biden).  This idiotic talk of more free money (Trump) isn't going to help anything, and trying to address the rate issue (now Trump, due to economic factors of mutual responsibility) through a friggin 50-year mortgage isn't going to solve any of the issues that you raised. 

 

[Coaches are heavily implying that Coleman isn’t trying on the field]

3 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

Nah. It's starting to get to be time where you can say he's not looking good. But way too early for final opinions. That's just ridiculous. Hell, Allen missed him when he was open downfield long twice this game. 

 

The text that makes your point here is Skurski's. And he edited out some of the most important parts of McDermott's comments specifically to make it look like he was saying something he wasn't quite.

 

Here's the Skurski quote you used,  in blue, and what he left out from McDermott in red:  

 

"He knows if I'm not satisfied (about it). Just like any player.... It's fair that you're asking about it. I promise you, it gets addressed when it isn't where it needs to be. There are times just like any player or any performer where it is exactly where it needs to be, and there are times where when it's not, and then we have to address it, to get it hopefully where it needs to be. So it's addressed. It's been good at times and other times it can improve for sure."

 

Leaving out the bit about "just like any player," included there TWICE, is misleading of Skurski. Does this refer mostly to whatever he was benched for a couple of weeks ago? Maybe. Maybe not. But it's basically impossible to tell from what we see here.

 

 

 

 

What McDermott didn't say was "no."  Which, in turn, says it all. 

[Coaches are heavily implying that Coleman isn’t trying on the field]

I thought more about this.  We should “Andre Holmes” this guy as soon as Gave is ready.  Make an example of him.  We don’t do his ess here. Adios. 

[$55m to run 13]

9 minutes ago, BeastMaster said:

You're kidding me, right?

 

Tyler Warren > Kincaid

 

Pittman Jr > Palmer/Coleman

 

Alec Pierce > Samuel/Shavers

 

Shakir maybe slightly better than Downs

 

I'll take Indys receivers over ours all day every day

This is what happens when you have a $14m QB.  We don’t, so we should rely on that guy to overcome weaknesses elsewhere.  But we play slow and under center and make no effort to attack in that way.  

[$55m to run 13]

20 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Because the goal of the team is to win 

 

And this team if they just dropped Josh back 45 times a game Josh would be on IR 

 

We need a healthy balance attack to win which is always the goal 

 

Regardless of the team assembled.. the goal once the season starts is to win the game 

 

The best way for this team to win is to hand it off to James Cook and then let Josh be Josh situationally.. hopefully this does not continue past this year 

 

But that is the best route to winning right now

Balance is the key.  We’re not there.  Also, we can be balanced without neutering 17. 

[$55m to run 13]

It’s as dumb as it sounds.  Let’s take a once in many lifetimes QB, pay him $55m, stick him under center, run a ton of 13, take him totally out of rhythm, and intentionally try to limit the number of possessions we give him.  We’re playing a style teams on a rookie QB contract or mid level starter should use, meaning that the balance of our roster will be of lesser quality.  It’s so friggin dumb it boggles the mind.  That’s it.  Discuss.