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Normally I would agree with you on TE/WR not being linked, but this year with the Kroft situation they might keep for a month a 7th WR who might have a little upside instead of a 4th TE who JAG.

I think you're probably right about that. I'm wondering if the Spain injury isn't too bad if they don't try to sneak both Teller and Boettger to the PS and stash the ninth OL there. I don't like keeping 7 WR, either, but I wonder if they might until Kroft is ready to play.

Agreed. This guy is a real find, particularly given that he was acquired for someone who wasn't going to sniff the roster. Curious to see if they plug him in at G this Thursday. Might allow them to keep only 8 OL in spite of the injury bug.

I think you might be on to something with Foster's attitude. When breaking camp McDermott made a comment about liking the attitudes of "most" of the players. So apparently there's a couple of guys who are rubbing him the wrong way. I assume if they were JAGs they would have been gone by then. And I recall reading camp reports of Foster moping when he was with the 2s. Putting aside the fact that Foster likely would get claimed on waivers, the problem with cutting him is that it removes a big chunk of our top-end speed at that position. We went through this last year - the "catch radius" and "hands" guys didn't work so well for Josh, but when we put more speed in the lineup (Foster, even Thompson) things opened up a lot for him. Cutting Foster leaves Brown as the only real burner. Not so sure that's a great idea. (I guess maybe McKenzie could fill that role, but I don't think he's been used like that.) If all that is true, maybe it comes down to Zay v Foster for the last spot. Zay earned hardest worker in the offseason, and it's going to be hard to cut a guy like that for an attitude problem. It's a dilemma for sure. Maybe they go light at RB and try to go with 7 WR for a couple of weeks to see how things shake out. On that point, I think we may end up keeping 9 OL with the way Bates has played and the nagging injuries at that position in camp, which makes it tough to get a 7th WR on the roster. Figure 2QB, 3TE (Sweeney, Knox, Smith; Kroft to PUP), 9 OL (Dawkins, Spain, Morse, Long, Ford, Nyseke, Feliciano, Bates, Teller/Boettger), 4 RB (McCoy, Gore, Singletary, DiMarco), and then maybe it could be justified until Kroft returns. I don't know that we need Yeldon -- to me Singletary makes him redundant. Perry is a different matter - not sure who's going to play teams. On the other hand, covering kicks isn't as important as it used to be. No matter, it's a tough call.

Yup. Covered the tackle and took more than one full step off the LOS before initiating contact. It was the right call.

This. Daboll wants quickness and speed in the slot. We saw that last year after the bye. I think Zay is in trouble, but I don’t see why they wouldn’t bring him to camp. Based on the collection of WRs, I wonder if DiMarco/TE3 might be in trouble. I realize that the plan is to be flexible on the offensive side of the ball, but stacking speed in the slot works well for Allen. Might not need to go four deep with that type of player.

Outstanding! (But I consider John Brown a hero )

Yup. The incompletion on first down was ridiculous.

He’s a fumbler. He proved it this year.

Good point. I hadn’t thought about June 1, was just working in the idea that they want to bubble wrap him so they can get rid if him after the year. I guess they could rid themselves of him now, unless they don’t want to fire someone during Christmas week.

Clay inactive. Wow. Was he on the injury report this week? I wonder if they're keeping him healthy so they can cut him on the first day of the new league year.

As a matter of fact, I do think Daboll is bringing the kid along properly. Let’s start with the offensive design. Daboll does stuff that makes it easy for Allen. The kid is comfortable on his feet, so what do we do? Spread the field and give him a little room to roam. The yardage isn’t by accident. Watch the all-22 when it comes out on the run that Allen ended with a slide at the +30. Daboll takes a heavy package with 2TE and a FB, splits everyone out, moves the LBs to the edges of the field, and allows Allen to break of 20+ without anyone laying a finger on him. That option went away when the Jets countered by feigning the A-gap blitzes in the second half. Let’s walk back to the Jacksonville game, too. That’s a big, nasty defense. So what does Daboll do? Tight splits, condense the field toward the middle, and give the kid a little room on the outside to roam and to throw on roll outs. Play action is a young QB’s best friend. While we’ve gone away from that the last couple of games, we’ve done a healthy amount of that with “levels” concepts mixed in. To top it off, the kid doesn’t make the same mistakes twice. It’s a sign of good coaching. Remember the big shot on the left thigh he took against Jacksonville? This week he’s sliding to end runs with his feet up to protect himself. The kid also looks a lot more comfortable in the pocket — which is a reflection of the fact that he’s starting to understand what happens around him. There’s a long way to go, but the “eye test” on the kid is light years beyond where it was early in the season. So yes, while he’s a work in progress I do think he’s being brought along properly. And now I’ll turn it around on you - you’re entitled to your opinion that Daboll is “fluff,” but I’d like to hear your list of candidates of substance to fill HC openings where the principal task is to develop a young QB. I’ll put the Jets, the Jags, the Browns, and perhaps even the Cardinals, the Ravens, and the Redskins (assuming Smith is done) on that list.

Hes not related to those guys (insofar as I know). So it’s not nepotism. Much as beane is here bc of a connection to McDermott, not because of nepotism.

Of course daboll isn’t the best oc in the Division. It’s mcdaniels all day long. And, for what it’s worth, I never characterized daboll that way. But you still haven’t addressed the point that daboll will be an attractive candidate for an HC job because he is a bright offensive mind who can “raise” a young QB properly.

It was the right call to try that kick. Wind was strong that direction. The long attempt after hauschka was hurt was ridiculous. Hauschka couldn’t even get close to that range in warming up before the second half.

Four points: 1. I said he well could be a candidate, not that he would get the job. 2. I didn’t come up with the “grassy knoll” thing. I suppose this is subjective, but that reply isn’t funny or even comprehensible. Better said, it was dumb. 3. Who made what a powerhouse is immaterial. The point remains that HC candidates who show the ability to develop a young QB will be at a premium as soon as this offseason given the number of younger QBs coming into the league. 4. Working for saban and belichick isn’t merely paper pedigree. They don’t suffer fools and he’s shown that he can hack it with the best.

That’s about right. Home sidelines. The seats we were in are now dugout suites.

Sitting in section c3 w dad and brother. Ticket stubs are framed w a copy of the front page of the buffalo news signed by Reich and Christie thanking my dad for attending. It’s a cool thing. Probably the only one still up in my parents’ house.

Check out my post in the Green Bay thread. Offensive minds are at a premium right now, and Daboll is an offensive mind. Allen is starting to trend up and has been brought along the right way. Jax likely will break in a new QB next year. Daboll has a great pedigree. I’m worried about the Jets getting involved with him, but Jax makes a ton of sense, too. I will not be surprised at all if we have to look for a new OC in mid-January. Agreed on both points. And, for what it’s worth, I think the Jets job is worse than Jax. But if somebody offered me $15 to $20 million and a shot to work with a young QB on the East Coast, I would take it.

This is a really dumb reply. Truth of the matter is that Daboll has done a good job with Allen, and that offensive minds are in demand. Everybody wants the next Sean McVay. But that guy probably doesn’t exist. Somebody like Daboll night be the next best thing. Incredible pedigree, good job with a young QB this year, and a way to weaken a division rival to boot.

If Allen finishes strong I have to think Daboll would be a candidate for a jets opening. Not sure about history with their front office, but the guy has brought Allen along the right way and the jets could help themselves and hurt us at the same time with that hire.

Your view of what a perfect throw is also happens to be an IMPOSSIBLE throw. Kind of like saying they should have kicked at the end of the first half. They threw because hauschka measured his range pregame and knew he couldn’t make it. Same concept here. The throw could not have been any better under the circumstances.

No doubt. Don’t like Allen getting hit in the head and the laundry staying in the pocket, either. Not impressed with the zebras today.

That play could not have been made any better. Those aren’t excuses. They are realities. Maybe one other guy in football could make that play. The throw was plenty good enough to win the game.

Funny thing is, I was just thinking this feels like 1987 to me. This kid is a gamer through and through. McDermott knows what he is doing. The D is there. And we can fix the offense. Two premature thoghts: the tre White trade might be one of the best in NFL history one day. I realize there was plenty of moving on our end, but basically it works out to mahomes for white and Allen. The way these guys are all trending ... it might be really special. and, I will not be at all surprised if one day josh Allen will have the largest contract in NFL history.