SectionC3
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1 minute ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:
Said he has coincidence in him but things could have been better, then brings up scoring too fast when we got down to the endzone.
That tells me he is not happy with Dorsey.
Oh FFS - scoring too fast. Give me a break. That’s not a reason to be unhappy with Dorsey. There are plenty of reasons, but under those circumstances, that ain’t it.
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3 minutes ago, Comebackkid said:
didnt he make the stop on the punt return. seems like him and the long snapper made back to back plays on special teams
I think you’re thinking of the bass tackle. My beef with Martin was the crappy punt that resulted in a 35-ish yard return. I think Ferguson made the tackle and the flex on that one.
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Just now, LeGOATski said:
He wasn't when he fumbled. Murray came in and immediately broke off like a 20 yard run. Cook's absence didn't matter at all. If you say he got fired up after being benched, then I guess you're saying the benching worked...
He was torqued. He paced the sideline for much of the fourth quarter. But here’s the thing. It was a stupid, attention to detail mistake. He deserved what he got. Davis should have been benched too. And whomever was responsible for 12 men should take heat. But the latter two things didn’t or won’t happen. Which is a problem.
Just now, Returntoglory said:To be fair, we don't know why or who benched Cook.
He got Zack Mossed.
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Just now, Comebackkid said:
sam's just another dude that caught whatever is wrong with this team.
Malaise. The group was together for too long without winning anything.
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2 minutes ago, Comebackkid said:
sounds like he punted
And it was done better that by Sam Martin tonight.
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2 hours ago, Aussie Joe said:
Reality starting to set in I think …Oh I’m there. This group is done. Time to reload around the QB.
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1 minute ago, JayBaller10 said:
Yep, coaching has officially lost the players. You fumble and then get benched while others make mistakes without consequence? Selective doghouse.
Agreed. Maybe Davis didn’t get that treatment because of sherfield’s injury. But his gaffe was just as bad as cook’s first fumble.
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3 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said:
Looks like he fumbled the interview, too.
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7 minutes ago, Old Coot said:
You do understand that fron the sideline it is difficult (if not impossible) to count all your down linemen. At the very least someone upstairs should have alerted McD to the 12 men.
And done what? That the thing thats so annoying. Everyone in the stadium knew the fire drill was coming. We had plenty of time to prepare. And we still screwed it up. Lack of attention to detail all night.
So many things went wrong, but it’s tough to lose that way. I do feel as if we got the short end on two big calls (saw it in stadium only; just got home and no tv replay yet). Perhaps the one comfort is that we probably will be ready to check sentimentality at the door and reload after this year.
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Stadium has no life or energy. I hope someone is peeling the paint from the walls in the locker room. This place is dead. Just brutal, angry atmosphere.
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I think the point is to get Dorsey further away from the sideline.
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1 hour ago, boyst said:
i don't want to admit or think i am giving up on this team this year because there is talent there on offense to win every game we play. but there is something missing somewhere that isn't letting us achieve a modicum of the success we are capable of and i am sure that no one knows exactly what it is that we are missing.
it's clear we lack leadership. our attitude is lackluster. in management they say attitude is a reflection of leadership. who's the leader on this team? Josh? McDermott? Dorsey? The Captains? Who's the weak link for this?
my opinion: we have a young team in some regards and our veterans are not pulling their weight. on the OL the only person capable of leadership is Morse who is a shell of himself. the happiness and joy is missing from the whole scene. knox was charismatic but he's not been himself since his brother passed. diggs is the only player on offense playing with heart this year and he's taking countless plays off - he does not run block, ever. against cinci he did not even attempt several blocks for the RB who was popping it out beside him. on one play he'd have let the runner gain 2 more yards.
on the field we do not have an identity. who creates and maintains this identity? the players from the sideline or the coaches? why are the players not putting this team on their shoulders? who should be? who is capable?
my opinion: the coaches need to be coaching up talent. that's not debatable. the attitude starts there and this rolls over from the top. mcdermotts not consistent in his decisions. dorsey is forcing square pegs in round holes. i would love to see if they just left play calling to josh, just to see what it would look like. i don't think it would be better because i don't think anyone is capable of coaching him on this team. i just don't know more of what i do not know.
the team does not have synergy. why does it seem like the concepts and fundamentals are not working together? how much can the players overcome poor gameplans? are the players not executing?
my opinion: if the concepts are not working why do we keep working them? we are resisting change and it is infuriating
we aren't winning games. why does it seem like we never have enough talent when we bring in "better" players every year?
my opinion: the talent was overrated and the coaching staff and concepts are not on the same page. very few free agents have joined this team and contributed. since the beginning mcdermott took a young and talented burgeoning to early success. but since has not developed anyone since.i know he has coordinators and specialty coaches to do this but htey're not and it's on him.
I suspect you talk to people in the organization. I sense the same things. What’s missing now is fire, desperation, enthusiasm, and emotion. I feel like we got complacent after the AFCCG and were sort of waiting on the inevitable rematch with KC in the playoffs. Then we found ourselves 7-6 and turned it on before 13 seconds. Last year was a practical and emotional mess that culminated with the fury of a woman scorned. Now this year, it just seems . . . Vacant, and blank. Something big has to change. These guys need a jolt. They’ll probably win the next two, get smoked by Philly, wake up for KC and perhaps stumble in the playoffs or perhaps miss depending on whether we stub our toes in December and January.
I really wonder about the mental approach of the QB. He’s the leader. We need him to be himself and have fire. He’s far from the problem, but his attitude sets the tone. It’s not like “zen Josh” is turning it over less than “sugar high Josh.” So maybe that’s part of it - have him get amped, cut it loose, and see who it brings along. And if we people who are stale and just want to go through the motions, then we thank them for their efforts, wish them well, and find someone who, in McD’s terms, is actually hungry.
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No. They need to enjoy themselves a little bit. Been around one guy who is wound too tight for long enough. Get back to having fun and cutting it loose.
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There is no plan. It’s whatever happens on the moment. Kind of like how a feral cat had no agenda and just does its thing. That’s our offense.
also, the defense is playing like hot garbage. There’s a lot to like these days.
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24 minutes ago, BigDingus said:
I'm critical of Josh, but I don't think this is the issue.
If anything, he may be putting added pressure on himself to work harder & improve, which has resulted in uncharacteristic play. He knows last year was a struggle, especially the 2nd half & the playoffs. He knows people blamed HIM for the Diggs situation. He knows he leads the league in turnovers the past several years.
So knowing all that, he's likely trying to make changes & play differently. Unfortunately, it's still not working out, and I'm not sure the surrounding players/play calling are helping him with that. Josh is still turning it over, but so are others. Along with the penalties, still no commitment to running the ball, dropped passes, etc. it's only adding to the difficulties Josh is having.
Everyone has to be themselves. Lean into what makes us who we are. That’s it in a nutshell. I appreciate trying to help extend Josh’s career, and some moderation in his out of pocket activity is good. But he’s a football player, not a QB, first. So let him run around and hit people and do his think. Let him play with emotion. Let’s go back to having fun. Because this robotic careful nonsense is not going to cut it. He, and we, will not win a Super Bowl with this style. So cut it loose and let the chips fall where they may and let’s go down swinging.
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10 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:
And then the Sabres went on to live happily ever after, right?
Canning Lindy wasn’t wrong. What happened afterwards was a disaster.
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1 hour ago, PBF81 said:
Welp, McD's admitted that he has no answers and doesn't even know what's wrong.
Yet, there's still some confusion out there what the core problem really is. SMH.
Fortunately it's becoming more and more obvious now every week.
Yeah, some like me refer to it as an established trend and pattern. LOL.
When the coach has no answers it’s time to find a new coach. Lindy Ruff hit the same spot before pegula put him out of his misery here.
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It’s like a bad relationship that you want to last. We all know this iteration of the Bills is over. Maybe Dorsey is gone. Maybe it’s Dorsey and McD. Or maybe it’s them and Diggs and Allen, too.
I gave them a pass last year because of the reported and unreported nonsense that occurred. But maybe that was too gentle. We just don’t have it. The only hope is that Allen goes on an out of his mind heater and we luck into something. But otherwise, this group ain’t it.
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Just now, SCBills said:
I don't think he trusts anything going on out there.
We also don't have the talent people want to believe we do. Diggs, Kincaid & a good OL should be enough to be way better than we've been, but outside of that he's throwing to a RD4 WR and RD5 WR. They're ok.. but it's getting to the point where Shakir may be a more reliable option than Davis.. which isn't saying much.
Combine that with our OC seeming incapable of adjustments or any semblance of cohesive game-flow and we get what we've been seeing.
....which makes Josh Allen look like what the OP alludes to.
I’ve landed on coaching and staleness. I’m with you. What we have should be enough to get it done. But it’s not working. Too many bubbling comments from players questioning strategy and approach. The diggs frustration last year was real and warranted. McD always seems to find a way back. This way back might involve canning the offensive staff.
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7 hours ago, Punch said:
The idea behind Ben Johnson is interesting because there's no evidence he'd make a good HC. I'm not saying it's impossible, but why is anyone confident he possesses the requisite skills and intangibles for the job? Because he calls a good game for Detroit's offense?
I never said that I thought trying to swap out McD for Daboll is a good idea. But it arguably has more merit than bringing in an unknown like Ben Johnson because Daboll is a little bit more of a known quantity, both in terms of his prior dealings here and his performance with the Giants (good and bad). Johnson, of course, has done some nice things with Goff. But Daboll did nice things with Allen. So who is to say that Johnson won't befall the same fate as Daboll as a HC?
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Straight up on black Monday. Who says no?
It’s a bit of an absurd idea, but an interesting thought exercise. McD is stale here, but a proven commodity. Daboll is fun, creative guy and we might need that breath of fresh air. Sure, it’s a reaction to a gut punch loss. But crazier things have happened and our staff right now ain’t it.
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Based on the player comments about offensive approach, it wouldn’t shock me if Dorsey catches the boot tomorrow. If Josh signs off on it, then who knows …
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1 minute ago, Thrivefourfive said:
The Cincinnati game should have been a Super Bowl effort. Avenge TWO games last year, and you have a week and a half to prepare after a Thursday home game.
But this is a game performance that is scary looking right now. There’s no great prior playoff success that can be summoned to excuse the players’ lack of energy and the awful coaching. The Bills haven’t played exciting football for way too long. It looks like the dog days of summer out there right now.
They got bullied again. All those dudes in that locker room okay with this??
1. The players that have money are playing like they don’t need anymore of it
2. The coaches hate each other. McD called out Dorsey in the halftime interview. He needs to make a change and bring in a game caller with decades of experience. Stop the JV experiment with Dorsey.
3. Would a terrible HC be terrible if they have Josh Allen? Isn’t Allen the quality of QB that wins 10-12 games a win regardless of his coach? Why do I always feel like he needs to be coached to the teeth to be a successful player..? The top two or three QBs in the league over the past two decades won every year regardless or receiving corps, runningbacks, Olines, defenses, and coaches.
No joy. No passion. No fun. Time to change the coach. Maybe it works, maybe it doesn’t. But that where this is headed.
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2 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:
The better prepared QB with the better weapons won.
Simple as that.
Burrow would tie Lou Anarumo in knots with his ability to read a defense and find it's weakness..........but Allen can only move the ball on Anarumo if he runs no huddle and Anarumo can't substitute. That is an indictment. Some want to lay the blame on Dorsey........but Allen should have a much better grasp of this offense in his 6th damn year in it. He needs to be a lot better decision maker. I'm not in the fire Dorsey crowd but a new playbook might be necessary to force Josh Allen to focus on the X's and O's again.
And now we have another clue as to why Diggs was fed up with Allen over the winter.
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McD for Daboll
in The Stadium Wall
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I didn’t actually think this was a good idea when I started this thread. I now have second thoughts in that respect.