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14 minutes ago, Bob Jones said:
I agree that the refs were literally wearing green outfits for most of the game, and were incredibly incompetent, and IMO, it did affect the outcome of the game, but....
...on the horse collar / grounding play, if you watch the video closely, the Philly defender did NOT have his hand inside the collar on the BACK of JA. He obviously did have his hand on the inside of his collar in front, above JA's chest, as he ripped the jersey there. So, the ref seemed to say in the post game presser that a horse collar must be administered on the back side of a player to be a foul. Is the latter true? I had thought that a hand inside the collar, anywhere around a player's head (360°), is a personal foul.
Also, the grounding part of it did seem legitimate; JA should have just taken the sack. And in actuality, he should have just thrown it away before he was dragged down.
Disagree on the horse collar. It was there. So was the hit to the head on Kincaid and the DPI on Sherfield. Frankly, and objectively, I thought the Brown play was a fumble. It was bang-bang, but he had his steps and pulled the ball toward his chest. Fumble all day long.
It’s been a crappy year for officiating. Picking up the ineligible man flag against NE might keep us out of the playoffs, as might the very odd Sutton call against Denver. Then again, had we actually made a couple of plays in either of those games, or simply counted properly against Denver, we might not be in this mess.
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Me. We were dominating that game. I still can’t believe we lost. I saw the writing on the wall with the FG at the end of regulation (every Bills fan knew that he was going to hit that kick) and then a gassed defense in OT. It was sadly reminiscent of 13 second. Allen was dealing and playing out of his mind, and the D gave it away.
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6 minutes ago, DuckyBoys said:
none of that will happen McDermott will dig in even more with his over management style
That assumes he has a choice.
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14 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:
Stop with this BS. It’s been the defense all year it’s been the defense for years now. That’s the problem. This offense has been the only thing keeping this team good and this POS defense can’t ever make a stop or hold a lead. It’s McDermott and it’s his defense. The game should have been put away with several 2 score leads or any of the extra chances they got after the offense re took the lead. Just like NE, just like the jets, just like the broncos, ***** this defense. McDermott is the problem fire him today
This gets us back to offense v defense friction after 13 seconds. It’s going go be a problem until the D starts to close tight games or until McD leaves.
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I’m fine with moving on from McD, but there better be a plan as to his replacement when he’s canned. We don’t have time for someone to learn on the job. I’d even be fine with bringing McD back next year if the preferred replacement is currently unavailable, with the idea that McD hires a DC, lets the OC (probably Brady, at this point) do his thing, and simply is the HC.
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1 hour ago, Believer said:
Hero Ball is a losing proposition…Just review Allen’s last passes in OT last night and a few of our other heartbreaking losses this season…
For as often as he is poised in the clutch and delivers… Allen just as often chokes under the pressure of having to play Hero Ball… He’s only slightly better than average at it, imo…
Brady needs to call a full winning game of Boring Ball… and McD needs to field a late game D that doesn’t choke…
Fans will prefer wins to drama every time… if it produces post season play.
Allen did not choke last night. Not at all. He was phenomenal. The idea that he is somehow responsible for this after putting up 400+ yards plus four touchdowns on the road in driving, cold rain against the reigning NFC champs and the current market leader in the NFL with an OC who is in his second week on the job after a mid-season change is patently absurd. And this was, what, the third time this year he walked off the field ahead and the defense blew the game (NE, Denver, Philly). Win two of those games and we’re sitting at 8-4 and absolutely in the mix. This year is squarely on McD. He bit off more than he could chew and here we are.
2 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:After several seasons of consistently blowing leads at the end of the game the HC should fire the DC this week!
On another note, at the end of last season I bought into the idea the problem was Leslie Frazier and I owe the man an apology.
Both things can be true. Frazier was a problem, and now McD is a problem. McD simply failed to solve said problem.
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9 minutes ago, Dirtyd415 said:
When will someone in the Buff media ask some tough questions, or a follow up. After a loss like last night McD always says “we’ll learn from it, get better, and move on”…we’ve heard that canned garbage week in and week out. They should be the most learned team in the league, yet they repeatedly fail in the same fashion multiple times a season. “A follow up to that response coach, you’ve said that after multiple close losses, yet the team continues to lose one score and over time games…so what exactly have you and or the team learned from the previous late game failures, and why have the on-field results not improved?”
I learned from last night's loss. McD overextended himself by being the DC this year. He did a great job here. But it may be time for a change. Lesson learned.
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2 hours ago, Bill from NYC said:
A few quick observations:
1) 10 penalties in the first half. 10 freaking penalties? That is an average of one every 3 minutes of playing time. This begs the question.....when will McDermott be held accountable for this? Who should we blame? Beane? The refs? Mr. Pegula will have to get sick of his act for a change to be made because McDermott obviously has more power than Beane.
2) Did you see Gabe Davis toss his helmet after what appeared to be a miscommunication between him and Josh on a pass? How many players tosed their helmets after his numerous drops this and last season? Imagine how good Josh would be with even an adequate #2 receiver, let alone a good one!!!
3) Diggs is great. He really is and not only that, he could be seen trying to calm down the pouting Diggs and encouraging other teammates. Isn't he supposed to be the "diva?"
4) The offensive line played well, giving Josh time to throw some freaking great passes, to include a deep out pattern in the pouring rain. VERY few qbs could have made that throw. I made it a point to watch Spencer Brown and imo he played rather well. Dawkins also played a fine game imo.
In summary, I think that McDermott is the main problem with this team. Between the poor drafts and the last minute losses in important games, I think that it is time for a change, unless he by some miracle turns this team completely around. It might happen too but sadly, it does seem unlikely.
As always, jmo.
GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Emmanuel Sanders signing in 2021 makes more and more sense as time passes.
The O-line was tremendous. We're staged for a quick turnaround next year. That group (probably minus a Morse/Bates switch) is back, and with the QB, WR1, RB1, and TE1 we can keep it going on that side of the ball.
Agreed on McD. Everyone else has taken a fall. I don't think he's a great end-of-game coach, and that problem has been exacerbated by his wearing of the DC "hat" this year as well. He overextended himself and hurt himself in both areas. But for the 13 seconds disaster I'd think he'd be safe. Now, however, there's nobody left to blame for the end-of-game failures, and what I see as a significant credibility problem should he return. Farwell and Frazier left. Dorsey was fired. Sean's the last man standing (for now).
*Perhaps the one thing that might save him is if he turns the offense over to the new coordinator, hires a DC, and brings in a bunch of younger personnel on the defensive side of the ball who haven't been around to listen to his schtick for seven years. Maybe the youth and willingness to prove in those younger players makes it work next year. Maybe. But I really think we need an offensive guy who knows our personnel, knows the routine around here (that shouldn't be destroyed), has the respect of the locker room, is someone with whom franchise QB1 wants to work, and isn't learning on the job. It's almost like we had a guy like that around here before who left for the Giants after the aforementioned disaster.
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Unless the Delorean gets struck by lightning it isn’t happening. He’s washed.
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2 minutes ago, Cheektowaga Chad said:
Sean McDermott for frank Reich and a pick
Who says no
Me. Replace Reich with Brian Daboll and I’m game.
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2 hours ago, HappyDays said:
Here's something crazy - the worst loss under McDermott was the 13 seconds game. In today's game he threw away 2 TOs despite knowing that if Philly made the FG we would have about 20 seconds left to drive and get a FG of our own.
The guy is so bad and un-self-aware he didn't learn from the biggest coaching failure of his life! He didn't use that information to gain an advantage!
Said this in another thread. I don’t get it. He had a front row seat to how it can be done. And if we’re saying it, you can bet it’s a topic of conversation in the locker room.
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22 minutes ago, Gunsgoodtime said:
It should be flaming with losses to the Zach Wilson led Jets, The Mac Jones led Patriots, the Bronco led Russel Wilson, and by barely surviving the lowly Tyrod Taylor led Giants. This season was over half way through, no matter the team we employed. Our coach has a lot to answer for this season, and it can't end with the OC
This. Josh is going on a heater, and we’re still going to miss the playoffs because of those three nonsense losses. I give McD a pass for last year. Frankly, landing that plane where he did was kind of a masterpiece. But we’re still not over 13 seconds, and we just keep finding a way to screw things up. There might be too many scars with this guy to run it back with him next year.
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10 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:
All Brady has done is let Allen play like the Allen of the last 4 seasons. And yes as he's shown over the last 2 games against 2 of the better defenses in the NFL he is indeed a special, generational talent.
It's clear from the comments starting in the off season and coming out during the last few weeks that McD and I suspect Bean, deliberately tried to remake Allen into a a very different QB. Whether they had Allen's full investment here or he just gave it that old college try we may never know. They did have their useful puppet in Dorsey who tried to turn McD/Beans vision for Allen into realty.
But the sad realty is that they failed spectacularly, Dorsey took the fall and the Bills will miss the playoffs for the first time in 5 seasons. This failure, which should be laid at the feet of McD & Bean is a fireable offense IMO. Hopefully the elevation of Brady and more importantly the decision to let Allen go back and play like the Allen of old came directly from Pegula. If it did then there is hope that we can be rid of Bean & McD at the end of this season.
I know that everything I've written here is pure speculation. But I've followed this team for well over 50 years and the evidence supports my take on events. Bean & McD messed with the magic sauce that made Allen a special talent at QB. They did this while also continuing to over value the D and undervalue the O. That's a recipe for failure and we're seeing it play out on the field.
This post is kind of why I’m ag peace with this year. Mid-year, I thought Allen was broken. He’s not. He’s back and, with the right parts around him, we can contend every year. I think today might have been the beginning of the end for McD, though. Maybe he runs the table. It’s plausible. But we can’t waste another year of Allen in a guy who, time and time again, does not get it done.
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1 hour ago, Punch said:
In this situation, he should've been thinking ahead to save the timeout for the final 20 seconds. I don't know the exact numbers, but I imagine in most instances the opposing coach will call a TO to ice the kicker, regardless of the fact I don't think statistics bear out its effectiveness.
I’m with you. I get the idea of letting the ball sit there and get wet. But two timeouts and the ball at the 25 with roughly 20 seconds left can definitely get you into FG range. Might even work with less than 20 seconds. Like, say, 13 seconds.
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33 minutes ago, BBFL said:
Yeah, I’m surprised Sherfield has been non existent. A few of my friends who are Dolphins fans were bummed they didn’t retain him. Thought we’d see more of him. Unfortunately that isn’t the case. Next man up.
Well we all ripped Beane and McD for spending all that money on the STs for those years but they only had one blunder during it… Kick Off in the 13 second game at the end.
Punting this year is awful and Bass has been up and down. Coverage on punts has been diabolical but that’s a combination of zero hang time on Martin’s boots.
Gilliam out of the STers, I give a pass to on the finances though as he does well when he’s in as a blocker so he at least has another use than ST full time.
Gilliam fills probably three roster spots. Core ST, FB, and TE3.
As far as ST blunders go, the KO in 13 seconds wasn't even a personnel issue. It was coaching/communication.
And, I agree on punting this year. Not good.
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1 hour ago, Sierra Foothills said:
Hmmm... could be but it's odd to me that they would want a 5'9" wide receiver to take the snaps for Taylor Rapp.
It seems more likely to me that Ja'Marcus Ingram (6'2" 190 lbs) would take Rapp's snaps.
We shall see.
The way to address part of that issue is to not kick off very much and to ask Bass to kick it out of the end zone when we do have to kick off.
Just now, SoCal Deek said:Him and Sherfield are neck and neck for that award.
Sherfield hasn’t really had (or, I suppose, earned) a chance on the offensive side if the ball. The Hardy signing looks incomprehensible.
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1 hour ago, boyst said:
This first part
See above.
He's in for special teams. Now, I'm sure he may get 1 or 2 snaps on Offense while he's called up to see what he has but he's there for ST.
I think Isabela probably is up to cover kicks. Ingram obviously is up for Jackson. I wondered if Hamlin would just step in for Rapp, and Isabella might see some offensive snaps. But maybe Isabella simply is up given the possibility that Lewis has to play more defensive snaps with Hyde and Johnson hurting.
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It's basically just ammonia. And it wakes you more alert. I use it, too.
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2 hours ago, SWATeam said:
I mean it's not that weird, it's what we've all been seeing with Josh. He's just not the same guy right now.
The thing that strikes me is McD being so forthcoming with how little he usually says about anything.
Yeah. Like he sees it too and wants the funk to end.
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Those losses the pats and the broncos are really going to hurt when we miss a WC on a tiebreaker,
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6 minutes ago, bigK14094 said:
Pegs has the juice.
Josh needs to go back to being himself and run some off script. He has been dumping those off, part of the reason he is 70+% completions.
If you’re running off Josh Allen to keep Sean McDermott then you are effin deluded,
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7 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:
Yeah he’s toast…. He’s retreated from the head coach job and is pointing a finger at the offense, defending the defense… to the press. There’s no more team stuff… it’s us and them.
He looks like a cornered animal….
this isn’t getting recovered
That was my impression during the presser. Way too polarized. McD tends to find a way out of sticky spots, but this time it's going to be tougher because he's a DC and a HC and this mess is probably the biggest one he's faced during his tenure here.
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1 hour ago, Dr.Sack said:
Basically if McD got a 13 seconds do over it would be bracket Kelce & Hill, rush 3, and use the other 3 to cover the other 3 KC WRs, with 1 safety deep aka Hyde.
Or to immediately tackle every eligible receiver on first down.
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3 hours ago, Yobogoya! said:
I get the sentiment here and certainly there's a lot to criticize when it comes to McD, but I don't get the fans asking to see "accountability" as if the man is supposed to... what? Is he supposed to fire himself?
Just because a HC isn't immediately let go doesn't mean he's not being held accountable. I think sports fans are too quick to think of a coach being fired as the only acceptable response when a coach f's up.
But just for some perspective, Andy Reid had some brutal playoff losses in Kansas City before Mahomes came along (to say nothing of his consecutive NFC championship game losses in Philly). Now he's paired with an elite QB and is leading the new NFL dynasty. The majority opinion after KC's 2015 divisional loss to the Patriots was "same old Andy Reid chokes in the postseason, he'll never win it all." If he was "held accountable" after that game and fired, is KC where they're at right now?
I think Terry is in a tough position. McDermott and Beane have given Buffalo sports the most consistent success we've seen in over twenty years. Now I firmly believe Josh Allen deserve the bulk of the credit for that, but if we're holding McDermott responsible for the brutal losses, we also have to give him some credit for the success as well.
Just trying to play some devil's advocate.
The issue I have with this is that the discipline and structure for which McD is known is totally lacking this year. And, that facility does not strike me as a particularly happy place, not only this year but for maybe the second half of last year, too. If we’re rolling into the playoffs every year at 11-5 with structure and discipline and happy warriors I can live with the idea that it might take us 10 or even 15 years to have the chips fall such that we win the whole thing. What I can’t live with is a coach with no answers and the malaise at OBD.
Part of me wonders if everyone simply became too comfortable with each other and lost the drive that a young Josh Allen had, that is, the burning desire to prove everyone wrong. In the life cycle of a franchise QB there’s typically a couple of “generations” of teams—he gets a shot at it with a few different groups. This group, and I think the point is obvious, is done. So now it’s time to retool around Josh and the o-line (probably save for Morse) and a few other players (Diggs, should he stay, Kincaid, Cook, Oliver, Bernard, Milano, Rousseau, and Benford) and see what happens when we get some young, hungry, fresh blood in the mix.
Harbaugh to Bills (Would it work?)
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Probably wouldn’t work. They need a new approach. I like McD’s disciplined approach, but it hasn’t exactly worked. I’m on the Daboll train given his history here and the type of guy I think they need to change the atmosphere a little bit. I could even live with McD/new DC/appropriate OC (Joe Brady if the year ends well) if they want to wait a year on a guy who they think is right. But if they’re gonna clip McD, they better have a plan as to who comes in next before he’s terminated.