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48 minutes ago, Back2Buff said:
I don't seek out Sal, really don't have time to listen to lots of audio, but he is usually on the WGR 550 morning show for a half hour, and the guy is so angry and argumentative. It's a tough listen. What happened to this guy? He was always the positive light in a dark cloud when the Bills weren't very good. He was a guy that I would look for his stuff that he would post when he lived in Florida. He seems to be getting more condescending and wanting to constantly pick fights with everyone. Not just the callers, but also the other hosts.
He needs a reset or something, but who would want to listen to someone that like constantly?
Is my opinion out of line? The segment this morning and yesterday were embarrassing for him.
No. I feel kind of badly for the guy, actually. He seems to identify as the “Bills sideline reporter.” There’s a lot more to someone than their job, irrespective of whether they’re lugging trash or quarterbacking the Bills. I hope I never identify by how I earn a paycheck and support my family.
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2 hours ago, BillMafia716ix said:
Listening to Sean McDermott presser after the game. I knew Dorsey was toast.
Good point. Defense plays “butts” off. Said it a couple of times. He was blaming the offense for that one. Can’t change the players now, but can throw the coordinator overboard. So that’s what he did.
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2 hours ago, KellyToTasker said:
At the risk of getting blasted on here….I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s medicated. Sugar high Josh, throwing up before games Josh, needs to get hit to get into games Josh, his own reference to his mental state, etc. He’s most definitely subdued.
I wouldn’t doubt it. I’ve been depressed. It sucks. He had the look, sadly. I hope he’s ok.
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14 minutes ago, harmonkillebrew said:
I actually felt relieved, as in this loss might bring about desperately needed change. And it did, Dorsey is gone.
If we don't turn it around that should just be the start. The Bills and Josh Allen will be a very attractive option for an up and coming offensive HC.
This is where I’m at. We all know it isn’t working. We all think the atmosphere in and around the team is no good. So why not rip the band aid off in this lost year and see where we’re at. Losing, as dramatically and as ridiculously as we did, might actually be a good thing in the long run.
I’ll add this. After Hail Murray, my take was that the team was defiant and angry. After last night, they seemed broken and defeated. The rest of this year might be painful, but maybe it leads us to making some of the bigger changes we need. And, I hope that it tells us that we need someone (like Daboll) who is going to coach Allen hard, unlike what I think we’ve seen from Dorsey. No more buddies club here. Time to get real and win some games.
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25 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:
Agree. That was a bad INT under the circumstances. And this is where Allen can improve his game.
As an aside, what I would live to know is whether that pass was the primary play call from Dorsey or did Allen divert from the primary play call to try to force it to Harty? Allen's comments about running the play that was called makes me think that was the primary call.
He looked right at him. Harty was between Josh and my position in the stadium in my line of sight. It was a garbage throw. One of the worst he’s made in a long time. The angle was such that I saw the whole thing develop. It was a shockingly poor throw.
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1 minute ago, bigK14094 said:
Interm title, means maybe a new guy. Maybe Daboll if he gets canned in NY
Daboll is coming back here to be HC, not OC. Someone earlier mentioned a McD power play in canning Dorsey. Josh has a little more leverage than McD, and if this season goes up in flames and Daboll gets canned we’ll see who has the juice at OBD.
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1 minute ago, BillsVet said:
McDermott just pulled a power play and people aren't seeing it.
Josh is being paid 43M per, so he isn't going anywhere. Still, he reportedly had input into elevating Dorsey to OC, but the decision was McD's.
McD has fired 4 coordinators in 7 years and likely will be under scrutiny if Buffalo doesn't get to the SB. That's highly unlikely with this roster.
Now, McD can spin this hire (and firing now) of Dorsey into that Josh wanted him and he did what he thought best for the franchise QB.
McD gets another crack at an OC if the season continues going sideways.
Might seem a bit Machiavellian, but this is McD we're talking about.
It’s self-serving, no doubt. Makes very little sense after a Monday game in which the offense left the field with a lead and the D and ST blew it. This is all about McD scapegoating Dorsey. I don’t see it as Machiavellian though. I see it as desperate because this season is barely even clinging to the brink and he probably would have had a mutiny on his hands if he didn’t do something.
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54 minutes ago, boyst said:
For those who don't know, I will say some things I've said before. It's on you to weigh it but...
Daboll was fed up with the way McDermott meddled with things. McDermott didn't earn respect and wasn't liked by many players, in turn daboll earned respect from the offense who bought into him. This caused a rift between McDermotts "process" and Dabolls calm zen like approach that guided our offense. Think back how relaxed we were.
With 13 seconds the trust daboll had earned shown in how that offense went out and executed precisely as a top team should with great talent. They were all in on trusting Daboll to put them in a position to win. McDermott had been over the shoulder much of the season with Frazier that year. As the game got tight at closing some felt as if McDermott took his hands off the wheel a little and lost composure/control. Frazier did a lot in those last minutes. The kickoff has McDermott coaching one thing but not the ST who had the kickoff and coverage out of sync.
Players knew this. They were told all their career in Buffalo that there was a process and trust. And accountability. There were fights in the lockerroom and on the way back. To my knowledge no physical assaults, but peoppe pulled apart.
This was not even the first eyebrow raising issue. That was 2017 and the Peterman 5 pick game in SD. The entire team was against it. Team Captains told coach they didn't want it. Peterman comes in and throws 5 picks. By halftime players have texted a few friends and folks some pretty harsh words. No one could explain it. It was easily forgotten when we made the playoffs. Easily forgotten now.
Going back to 13 seconds - you can look at some interesting tidbits: Spain and coach argued, Hughes always being in the doghouse for no reason, Beasley completely abandoned and not supported to be himself, Araiza dropped, Levi Wallace getting tossed as a scapegoat, many others.
The lockeroom has a divide in the lockerroom that doesn't trust McDermott. That's part of the reason some players are here and stick/stuck (Lee Smith, AJ Klein).
There is a lot there that was seen and known by people around and left, even if we didn't like them. I would honestly love if Whaley came out and weighed in on his personal thoughts - it'd be a treat for that to be public.
This is second hand from someone on the plane home, and I posted it here earlier. Apparently it was a wild ride home, with a huge range of emotions from crying to screaming to yelling at coaches to guys punching seats out. Offense blaming defense, people screaming at each other. Just bonkers. That account was in the back of my mind last year, and I wondered how McD could recover from that given that nobody ever really accepted responsibility for that mess.
I’ll add another layer about accountability. Imagine that, after the 13 second fiasco, you plod through last year and one of your superstars is having off-field drama that culminates in someone scorned dropping a certain bomb to the family the night before a playoff game and a late night three ring circus at home afterwards. Imagine, too, if that wasn’t dealt with to the satisfaction of another superstar who had his fill of the nonsense and the lack of accountability for said nonsense and it becomes easy to see how the whole “process” thing in the eyes of many is a bit of a sham.
I know people here think Daboll is a lousy head coach, and maybe they’re right. But that guy gets the vibe around here, the players respect him, and I have long sensed that they feel like the wrong one left after 13 seconds. He’s about what we need right now in making this a fun place to go to work again. Because I get the sense that nobody enjoys spending time in the office right now.
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7 minutes ago, LEBills said:
It’s the only real move they had. Give Joe Brady an audition to see if he can save the train wreck. Hopefully Pegula is up for big changes this offseason if the season continues it’s descent into the toilet
It’s both a reasonable move and desperate. If this backfires I question whether McD can recover.
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10 minutes ago, goldenboy81 said:
Let's gooooo.. seasons back on
No. It’s not. We’re cooked unless we go on a heater. And that ain’t happening with this malaise-ridden group.
The big fear that I have is that the locker room processes this, realizes that Dorsey probably was in over his head (Diggs certainly thinks so), and then wonders why the OC gets canned after leaving the field with a lead in a game blown by a stupid, simple, nonsensical, self-inflicted, easily avoidable error traceable to coaching. And then the question becomes why is that guy getting scapegoated and McD isn’t held responsible for anything. This is a risky, risky move, and if we have another gaffe-filled game like last night, I wonder if McD loses the room (to the extent he hasn’t already).
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Just now, boyst said:
Yeah, all that's true but Denver is a terrible football team that we couldn't get off the field.
We are supposed to have a better defense than most of the league even with injury. We have all these pretty stats, EPA, etc. but the defense has multiple chances to win this game and end last night and didn't. It has happened, what, like 3 times this year? Jacksonville? New England? The the NY?
They got lucky against the giants, too.
One thing I agree with McD about is the complimentary point. He sees it more as, for example, the offense needs to take four minutes, score a touchdown at the end of the game last night, and choke out the Broncos. I see it has the whole operation doesn’t compliment itself so well when Josh isn’t pulling miracles out of his rear (the miss on fourth and 1, if hit, might change the game). We lost that cheat code, and the whole thing is a struggle. Compound that with a distracted HC, and the little things (attention to detail all over the place, from 12 men to inconsistent discipline, to Phillips almost giving away the Bucs game with the stupid facemask) going awry and everything is like running through mud.
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3 minutes ago, Roundybout said:
why do we care what a mediocre OL saysBecause he was in the locker room and he affords a hint as to what the players might be thinking.
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Just now, Niagara Dude said:
Classic McDERMOTT move, throws his coordinator under the bus just like 13 secs. All out blitz on 3rd & 10 with Broncos outside of FG attempt, just gave it away. The fact that running the football is now a better option then passing the football is why this team has lost it's identity and are no longer an explosive feared offence. CAVEMAN FOOTBALL= McDermott
I don’t even hate the blitz call. Wind shifted, the kicker could hit from 55, and I objectively feel like Taron turned his head on the PI and that the call was marginal. It just didn’t work out our way. Or maybe it did, but we screwed it up by failing counting class. Whatever. The result is the same. Another game frittered away.
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4 minutes ago, boyst said:
i put the fumble on the position coach.
I don’t dispute that. I have a huge issue with the inconsistent discipline. Why Davis didn’t get the same treatment is beyond me, unless they knew at that point that Sheffield had a bad ankle.
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9 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
It had to happen. The DC should step down too.
I am fine McDermott coaching out the season as a Head Coach and taking a view then, I feel he probably deserves that. But he should swallow his pride on the DC thing. It hasn't worked. He should hand over playcalling.
I think he bit off more than he can chew. It shows in the lack of attention to detail. The 12 man situation epitomizes the season. We need a HC, and OC, and a DC. He’s done a good job as DC, but not a good job as HC this year.
9 minutes ago, phypon said:He had to go. He scores too fast for McD.
That comment was ridiculous. Totally ridiculous by McD. If Cook hadn’t coughed it up again he probably would have scored on the fumble run. So maybe the beef is that Dorsey scored too “medium.” Either do it right away or play a four-minute offense so the McD D didn’t blow another game where the offense left the field with a lead against a crappy opposing offense.
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12 minutes ago, boyst said:
wow
edit: the shock wore off. this means mcdermott felt pressure and now has even more upon him. if the rest of the season looks the same then we know it's not just the OC. this is McD playing for his job.
mcdermott also not holding himself accountable for benching cook. that was a betraying dorsey and setting him up to fail last night.
I agree with the first statement. I have no beef with benching Cook. He’s not a fumbler, but his fumble was reflective of the lack of attention to detail with which we’ve played recently and which literally cost us the game last night based upon our inability to properly count to 12. My beef with the benching situation is that Gabe Davis wasn’t hanging out with him on the chalk after yet another backbreaking drop.
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13 minutes ago, BBFL said:
Got to keep DaQuan IMO. If not, a tangible upgrade which may be hard to get for that value.I completely agree with you. But I don’t know if they’re going to want to pay him given his age and our cap situation.
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In all seriousness, I feel like bottoming out will make it easier to say goodbye to a lot of long-termers next year for cap reasons. Morse, White, Hyde, Poyer, Davis, Miller (post-June 1), and Neal all are likely goners. Harty, DaQuan, Phillips, Settle, Klein, Matakevich, and maybe Sam Martin probably fall into that category, too. Gotta clear cap space, load up on offense, and let a bunch of kids try to figure it out on the other side of the ball.
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Just now, MAJBobby said:
Yeah he can be. Won’t be though just watch. I am almost willing to bet they use his base for cap space and kick the can down the road.
will say well he was never fully healthy.
It’s probably true, but the big issue for me is the likelihood that a 35 yo pass rusher is going go recover from that injury and want to be here for what at this point looks like a retooling year next year. On that latter issue, I believe that the pieces are there to do this quickly, but the defense is going to have to be young next year.
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Trust the process, which seems to (mostly) lose close games. We’re a bunch of front runners who can’t come back and who can’t hold a lead when we do come back. We don’t handle adversity well.
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2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:
Invisible yet again.
so glad we are locking into him for at least another year
Maybe he can be a June 1 cut. It’s ugly. Good guy, good leader. But washed.
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3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:
Nope. The reality is the message is stale. And the ONLY unit that has any sense of depth built into it was the defense as they really prioritize that unit.
however typically when your depth on defense is playing meaningful snaps your Special teams tends to suffer.
the offense IMO has regressed because OF McD meddling and getting his Yes man in Dorsey.
Totally agreed. Process this process that and we can’t count to 12.
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1 minute ago, Einstein said:
The kick didn’t feel very rushed to me. Did it to you?
There was a full 11 seconds still on the game clock when the Broncos kicking team was fully set-up.
The same kicker missed an extra point early, which came with no rush.
It did seem rushed. They had to fire drill onto the field. And he missed. So there’s that.
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His strategy forced a rushed kick and actually worked, but for the counting failure. Maybe a sesame street video with the count is on deck for tomorrow morning.
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Do you think the Bills brass and coaches read this forum ??
in The Stadium Wall
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Agreed. I know of one former high-level employee who had a shtick here. I suspect others read it, too, in part because it’s human nature to want to know what people think and say about you.
Along those lines, I felt very badly for Dorsey’s kids yesterday. It had to be a tough day. I’m sorry that they had to go through that, and probably to find out at school from their peers. It stinks, and I hope they’re doing as well as can be today.