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Meaning,,, that all viruses mutate? Who do you think does not understand that except the dopes who continue to say get more shots ?

Yep, my triple shot , double mask wearing daughter going through a rough couple days of Covid right now. Triple jabbed nephew just texted me this will be first home game he missed since 2012 as he is in bed with Covid and feeling like poop for the last 48 hours. But guys like @The Frankish Reichwill continue to claim the vaccines are doing their job as intended and we would be out of this if just everyone got jabbed more. Data be damned! every single person I know who has tested positive for Covid since July has been fully vaxed. And I knows lots o folks who have tested positive, including me, my wife , and both kids who do not live with us.

You do realize South Africa is a massive country with similar temperature disparities to the US? Your statement is like saying "you do realize its summer and August in the US, that's why people in Arizona and Florida and Texas are outside more, its the perfect time to be outside". Be good if you learned a bit of geography and climate ya dolt. Ya still saying the vaccines stop transmission ? Ya really believe that? And before ya say." they prevent hospitalization", answer the question, do they prevent transmission?

If I am dense, you are just a complete idiot that denies evidence.First, if it was not intended to stop transmission why is it called a vaccine? Just answer that one question and cite another vaccine that was not intended to stop transmission only help with symptoms once contracted. I will stop all posting if you can simply prove what you assert , the vaccines initial goal was to curb symptoms, and it was never intended to stop transmission. I suppose you will deny this too directly from the FDA Website. https://www.fda.gov/emergency-preparedness-and-response/coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19/pfizer-biontech-covid-19-vaccine-frequently-asked-questions Jesus , i would rather be dence than as gullible as you Second, watch the video I posted, or the one @Big Blitz did, direct from Faucis mouth “ the are incredibly effective against variants”. Are you truly denying he said that? Do you deny the CEO of Pfizer claimed 100% effectiveness against transmission in South Africa ? Do you deny the hard of the CDC said vaccinated no longer transmit the virus? That Maddow said the “ virus stops at the vaccinated”. If you dumb enoughy to deny all those things even though they are all on the video I linked, you are just being obtuse. Oh that’s right, it hits when people go back inside, like it has two years in a row in the southeast without a vaccine and with a vaccine, just as it has in the north when we go back inside with or without a “vaccine. “ and when it goes down in February/March just like it Did last year, it will be credited to the vaccine.

It’s almost as if a respiratory virus did what every other respiratory virus does and got worse in winter, declined over the spring and summer, and ramped up again in the fall and winter. Did it 2020, and now again in 2021. Hmm, who coulda thunk that would happen with all the vaccines and boosters!

And yep, more for the “ deny the message was always we think they help transmission , but not sure “ crowd like @GaryPinC

It’s amazing to me how folks are so invested in the vaccine story that they complete change the narrative of the vaccines. I mean it is truly, spectacularly amazing. Guys like @GaryPinC saying the powers that be NEVER suggested vaccines would stop transmission. I mean, if Fauci et al were my kid I would tell them listen, it’s okay to be wrong. Just admit it, take the mea culpa, admit the vaccines and the new pill a pre Covid and a post Covid therapeutic “ In addition , We are gunna start treating this like we should have from the start, stay at home when you are sick , test , and when you have no symptoms go back to living. what a freaking sham this all is.

You are serious? Can’t be, no way. Honestly, from the start we were told vaccines would stop transmission, that only changed when the effectiveness went down. people who want to believe like you rehash facts to fit your narrative. How can you deny any of these things were said? They are all on record. a few breakthough cases is not the same as it was never intended to stop transmission. Call it a therapeutic if ya want, it sure as chit ain’t a vaccine. BTW, my double mask wearing , rule following, triple shot daughter at home with Covid right now. all a ***** sham, and you buying into it. Virus was always gunna virus. Change the tone on vaccines as they are not a solution out as we are seeing, and it’s a danger to society and public health to keep pushing something as a panacea to the Covid era when it so clearly does not work as intended.

I was more suggesting where i think @Augie should go, but i know the boy and wont expect a response till after 11AM...he adheres to a very rigorous schedule

I hear hell is nice this time of year.

hmm, i did not not know the flu shot was an mRNA vaccine. Thanks for the info you very well informed person

now i have been told on here that big phatma and the FDA would never be in lockstep, they only work for the best outcome of us citizend...hmm How many lives did this cost? And cant wait for someone to assail ProPublica as right wing journalism https://www.propublica.org/article/this-scientist-created-a-rapid-test-just-weeks-into-the-pandemic-heres-why-you-still-cant-get-it

We tried to keep off Covid last night, could not. Amazing to me 3 of my relatives insist the point of the vaccine as NEVER EVER to prevent transmission,the whole time it was just so that when you inevitably got Covid, your symptoms would not be as bad. even showing them Fauci and Walensky (sp) saying the exact opposite they insist the message has been the same from day 1 of the vaccines. fascinating study in human behavior.

Boy, is this ever shocking. In 60’years, I have never seen a bigger sham … when the hell did we as people lose our freaking common sense to say “ hey, ya know what, there is a massive conflict here, and we are going to appoint an independent panel to decide through research if we need more freaking shots, not the guys who LTIPs are going to pay tens of millions in bonuses” is that really a controversial statement now? Are we to believe Pfizer and Moderna at all costs? Never question them, especially when they have zero litigation risk?

Well, isnt the mandate back up before the Supreme Court like January 7th?

Heard something interesting today...similar to what should have happened with the stimmy checks if Uncle Joe cared more about the vax than votes. No more federal aid of any kind...SS, Medicaid, Food Stamps, Rent Assistance, Public Housing, Student Loan forgiveness...all of it suspended until you show proof of vaccination. I mean if Uncle Joe wants to take peoples money away if they are not vaxed via employer mandate, why not the constituency that makes their money off the federal government?

And we will be told by @The Frankish Reichand @Sundancer we just don’t understand science and math. But look, less deadly with the vax… but look, like most viruses it is becoming less deadly and more transmissible. but we will be told like clockwork that seasonality and the virus doing virus things has nothing tondo with it, it’s all because of the “ vaccine” this may be the biggest scam in my lifetime, and I closing in on 60. people so desperate to have certainty in their life, so hard to let the narrative go no matter what the numbers say.

lets keep letting these folks dictate national policy...i mean just cause they are arong all thge time...err, i mean the data changes...they are our best and brightest!

Well, remember McCain was heroic and courageous for his famous “ thumbs down” vote on ACA, but Manchin is being obstructionist

And there it is. No matter a 99.99 survival rate in kids under 5, we have jabs to sell!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10313227/Johnson-Johnson-vaccine-dubious-against-Omicron-lab-study-finds.html?ito=social-twitter_mailonline&ito=social-twitter_mailonline Take your shots people, there are LTIPs in play here! (Long Term Incentive Plans)

Yes, they should change the protocols if they indeed care about spread, and it’s a simple change. Everyone, regardless of vax status, takes a rapid antigen test everyday in addition to a PCR test weekly.

yep, and its weird as the NFLs head doc was leading edge last year on Covid. Was obvious in early September the vaccines were not preventing spread, yet they kept up the charade about different protocols for vax vs unvaxed . Damn, we need Beasley back on social media stat...all those Bills fans crushing him for being all over this early now need to take a walk of shame.

Section 135, Row 22. Seats 21-24. Aisle seats on about the 25. Best Offer.

So, 100% vaccinated Cornell is shutting down with a massive Covid outbreak. Uhmmm, tell me again how Covid vaccines stop the spread?