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Dude, that guy in your avatar needs a maternity bra.

Exactly. We're ranked 30th in points scored, and we're still 1-5.

Crap. I've been outed.

I understand what you're saying, Mickey, but we unfortunately have no control over the what is aired. Yes, we feed into it by discussing it and disecting it, but there just is no way to make the general population ignore the tripe and idiocy that is handed to them by people with an agenda. If we could, Farenheit 911 would have gone straight to video.

Hey Mead...Happy Birthday. YOU'RE WELCOME!

Wow. Outstanding. All this time you've been able to walk the line, sounding like a hard leftist, but until this post I would have never guessed that everything you've been writing for the past year has been sarcasm. You have done a tremendous job walking your tongue-in-cheek prose right up to the very edge, and I for one have been completely fooled into believing you were just a very extreme Dem. What a surprise to find out that all this time you've been pulling our legs and are really a Bush supporter with a very dry sense of humor. Man, you had me for a while, but your post above finally gave you away. I hope I didn't spoil it for anyone else. Great job. Wow. Who else was fooled all this time by LGB?

And you're probably right. But I think right after that thought, people will also say "Bad time to switch horses. Very bad time."

That's a very nice broad stroke which unfortunately is not even worthy of us idiots. I think every regular on this board has spent more time determing what the tape means to the election in general. That's naturally going to come with some banter. In fact, virtually every regular on this board knows who he's/she's going to vote for. Topics here seem to be more around the ramifications of the tape on the election, and how it may affect voters, rather than us "idiots" using it as a decision-making device. By the way...self-proclaimed idiots just won the World Series. Don't take us idiots for granted. We have a way of doing great things.

Sorry, man. You're off topic. We're talking about what Kerry meant by the term "global test." This has nothing to do with what you're referring to above. What did Kerry mean by that statement? Are we talking about our countrymen or the world? Or both? Is he saying we shouldn't do anything without UN approval? But if we are going to do something pre-emptive, we should still get people's approval? I'm just saying Kerry has a bad habit of saying something like "global test" and giving it some vague definition when we're talking about something rather important like the war on terror. He tries to come up with some little catch phrase, but fails to define it well enough to keep people from picking it apart. It's an inherent problem Kerry has -- this 'trying to be Clinton cool' thing -- and it does more to push me away from him than it would ever get me to take him seriously.

I see your point. All Clinton did, though, was piss into a volcano, which is close to doing nothing as you can get without actually doing anything. Kerry, I fear, will just stand around saying "Oooo, what's that stuff oozing out of the volcano..."

I disagree. It's maybe just a matter of semantics, but what you're saying is that Kerry really meant to say his plans need to pass a "national" test. A "global" test would certainly imply worldwide understanding and acceptance. A "national" test would ensure that the people of "this nation" have an understanding and acceptance. Like I said...semantics. But please don't think he didn't come close to implying as such. That's exactly what he did. It's exactly what he always does. Throws some words out there, gets beat up for them, and then backtracks to redefine what he was saying so it doesn't sound as bad as it did when he implied it in the first place.

Bin Laden releases yet another video from some rat-infested cave in the middle of nowhere, and we've somehow taken our eye off the ball? Man, you guys will spin absolutely anything and everything you can to grasp for ANYTHING that can help in the final week. The American people see Bin Laden hiding away in a hole, not standing on some street somewhere with people surrounding him and praising him and cheering his name. You suggest we should keep going until we get him, and let the rest of the world go to hell in the process? As if getting Bin Laden will end the war on terror? Yep. More reason why I pray to God a pussified candidate like Kerry loses this race.

Just out of curiosity, Blz...if Bush doesn't scare them, then why release a new tape? Why not let things go as they are since, as you state above on our repeated attacks in Fallujah, that bin Laden is apparently winning the war on terror? Exactly why would they do something like that? Especially if, as you say, they aren't scared of us while we keep blowing their asses up over and over in places like Fallujah where we keep hitting them, keep hitting them, keep hitting them. And what is his response? "If you leave us alone, we'll leave you alone." Sounds like he's scared sshitless to me. Sounds like his reasoning is that if he pops up on video a week before the election, people will think that Bush isn't doing his job and as a result we will do what bin Laden wants; have American vote a reactive kitty into the oval office instead of a person who takes the fight to the terrorists. In all honestly, all he's done is remind everyone what happened three years ago and that there is more work to be done and it needs to be done; work that requires iron balls, not some pussified version of a person who says we need to pass some type of global test before we react. Not a man who can't even make a solid decision and stick with that decision once he realizes there's more to be had from pandering. Your candidate is by far the most pussified candidate since Clinton when it comes to matters of this nature. I suggest he step aside and let the a real president handle this. If he gets a chance to show up in the Senate anytime soon, maybe he can finally work on some decent legislation that will help the cause.

If you don't think that Kerry clearly and without question panders to the highest degree over anyone...including Bush...then you surely don't understand how the blinders affect things. I have never seen anyone pander and lie and deviate from one thought to the next as badly and as obviously as Kerry does. Coupled with the fact that he stands up and actually is stupid enough to say "I"ve never waivered" just further asserts that he will say anything...and do anything...to get elected. Do all politicians do this? Yes. But Kerry has made a living out of it and is a complete embarrassment to the Dems. It's really too bad you ended up putting him on the ticket. Dean would have had a MUCH better chance at looking like someone who actually cares about the people instead of Kerry's approach: caring only that he says what he thinks the people want to hear all the time. He reminds me of Clinton in his second term State of the Union address. "And we're going to get Mrs. Simmons a posturepedic bed to help her with her arthritis! And we're going to get Mr. Jones a can of WD-40 to help him stop the squeak in his son Timmy's tricycle."

He's blaming AQ for the deaths of the Iraqi Nat. Guardsmen. If we had not gone after AQ, they would have never gone afte the Iraqi Nat. Guardsmen. He clearly believes we should have never gone after AQ because it was liking hitting a bees nest with a bat. That's the way I interpreted his comments. Clearly we were better off just leaving them alone. There also seems to be this pretty solid thought process from some that more troops in Afghanistan would have been the answer to killing bin Laden, and that killing bin Laden obviously ends the war on terror. There is so much more to this war on terror and to personify it with a guy in a hole is just clearly showing the world how little we understand what is happening.

I agree with Mickey. We should have never attacked Al Quada. We should have sat right here on our own soil and waited for them to fly more planes into buildings. Attacking them only made the spread out and regroup in Iraq. If we just left them alone, much like our president's predecessor, they'd all still be in Afghanistan planning another attack and those Iraqi National Guard troops would have never died by the hands of AQ. Of course, the probably would have been killled by Saddam at some point, but that's not our problem.

You're really not my type, Blz. But I appreciate the offer.

Hot Pocket lovers unite! Did you all know that one of the things John Kerry did during his 19 years in the Senate was vote against legislation that permitted microwaveable food to be prepared in under three minutes? He did this because his power company friends needed sandwiches to use up at least six minutes of microwaveable time. Globally speaking, that three minute drop in cook time...literally half the normal cook time...would cause their income to plummet faster than they could respond to the market change. And all the rich people would get poor. John Kerry sold himself to the power companies because he believed that you can receive nothing of value in three minutes. But alas, the legislation passed anyway, and after sampling one of EIGHT different varieties of Hot-Pockets (word was it was the meatball and cheese variety), realized he had made a mistake. Delicious goodness and your entire lifestory COULD be delivererd in under three minutes: power companies be damned. And thus John Kerry embraced the Hot Pockets, repeating that he NEVER stood in the way of faster cooking. And in turn, the Hot Pockets embraced John Kerry. For exactly three minutes. And that was that. It'll go down in history that way.

I tend to gravitate toward "Look At Me" threads, and this one sucked me right in. It's not quite up there with stevestojan asking how many running touchdowns we've had, or his buddy Hello Newman wondering who's hotter: Estelle Getty or Bea Arthur, but it's definitely a "Look At Me" thread. Snow in Alaska, indeed. Would someone please tell him there IS no hockey.

Funny a Kerry supporter trying to define leadership. He has the leadership skills of a lemming based on his tremendous track record of making a decision and sticking to that decision. Woops. There goes another one off the ledge.

Yeah, I can hear Gore now had he been elected.

Then he and his minions may want to do a better job explaining to me what I'm clearly missing because every time he speaks about Iraq, it's about getting our troops home in a specific time frame. You'd think he'd learn more about the situation before making such pandering comments.

I really wouldn't get so pissy. You were the one spouting off your academic credentials. If you hadn't made intelligence an important part of your discussions, you probably wouldn't be getting a crapload of feedback from what must be very lazy typing skills.

But they love a good soundbite. Ding. Hot Pockets are done.

And all these years later he's still yelling into a megaphone and staying true to his word. "I can hear you. And soon the people who did this will hear all of us." That's what being a leader is all about, Charlie Brown.