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Everyone sort of moved on. Look at what the fear mongering is doing to the markets today.

You mean when you asked if there are second waves in places that were hard hit? What other examples are you looking for? All the fear mongering about AZ, NC & TX are misplaced because they're still rolling through their first wave. And but surely looks like the medical profession is utilizing lessons learned much better than the unfortunate places that got hit first.

It's easy to keep it off the playing field. Do whatever you want to do once the final whistle sounds It's the private employer's rules and my opinion only matters if I want to consume that employer's product.

Again, you're conflating playing the anthem with the private employer's rule of conduct. The NFL will very likely change its rules this year. Has nothing to do with playing the anthem before the games or not, or how individuals choose to respond to the National anthem.

The anthem is supposed to be apolitical. It's the National anthem. That's the whole point.

It is the National anthem. I could care less about the fly overs at the games, although they are cool to watch.

Keep ALL politics & individual protests off the playing field.

Wuhan, Bergamo, NYC ...

Then it goes both ways, correct?

Are you referring to this dark space or the main board?

Paul died again?

What's next? Jake from State Farm?

Worldmeters. If you take out the small populated countries, Sweden would still be #15. That's not horrible considering no lockdown. If the theory was spot on, they'd be the far away leader. The states that have a tick up in cases should remember to practice proper hygiene & safe distancing. But there's nothing in the data to suggest that this is the start of another exponential growth curve.

Universities? Try 6th grade.

Ranking fifth among the developed world is not as bad considering they didn't lock down the country. Taro is correct to point out their failure in protecting the extremely vulnerable. But when you ask whether lockdowns helped stop the spread, Sweden's #20 rank in the case count indicates that the lockdowns did not slow the spread as much as people credit them. By the time the lockdowns took effect, much of the virus had run through the first wave. The data also suggests that mortality and spread were heavily influenced by the differences in the mutations. But there are still many unexplained questions of the propagation and mortality rates. It's naive to think that a virus this deadly infected the entire northern Italy from a single tourist visiting Bergamo, yet somehow stopped spreading past Milan. Why was it an easier jump to Spain, then to France, Belgium & UK, but not Switzerland. More locally, why didn't the lethality of the virus cross the commuter counties of NYC? We're onto month 2 post-Hasidic funerals. The yeshivas have been open under the radar. Where are the Williamsburg spikes?

Where is the flashing red in Arizona? Where is the evidence that Arizona is at the start of exponential growth? Arizona is not exhibiting signs of a runaway crisis. If anything the charts show that the lockdown did bupkus to stop the viral growth because there's been a consistent, but small increase. If you look at the state's ICU capacity, it's been consistently above 70% since early May, when the heavy restrictions were still in place. Now ask yourself why is Arizona suddenly being called out as a hotspot, when its trends haven't changed that much in a month? Why is the focus off Texas and everyone is jumping on North Carolina? The doomsayers will glom onto any piece of negative news, without examining all the underlying numbers to spot an anomaly or a false trend. Why are CO, GA & WI very stable despite opening up in early May? We're into Day 10 of Floyd protests. Should there be a swarm of hospitalizations by now? And please stop posting case numbers as evidence, because that's a total reflection of increased testing. I can provide a dozen examples of people I know who are testing positive for antibodies because they had a very nasty "bug" in February/early March. Do you ask why more data isn't coming out on those results?

The tide certainly isn't turning, and in fact is gathering steam. This is probably how the Chinese felt at the dawn of the Cultural Revolution, and certainly how Russians felt at the beginning of the Stalinist purification. Don't ignore the powerful forces who are now the main outlets of "truth"

Why bother smoking salmon?

Why do you insist that black people are inferior?

This is a gross misrepresentation. Cases are rising due to more widespread testing. The positive results continue to drop significantly. The number of active cases that require hospitalizations and ICU are falling in states that opened up early! The death rate is dropping faster than WHO Covid retractions.

And who can forget Kurt Goedell's reminiscences of Hitler's dancing and singing?

That guy was on the opposite side of the lunatic fringe. Funny how the lefties here don't care that posters who were permanently banned from here were white nationalists & nazi sympathizers.

Alex Berenson while on Carolla, reminded everyone that Wisconsin was the first state to truly open up in early May. Let's check the data from that apocalypse?

It hasn't been forgotten, it was ignored. In retrospect, it sure looks to be a huge mistake to follow Italy's model, which was to keep as many people away from hopitals and throw the very ill on respirators. But you'll never hear that reckoning.

You'd better get a bigger set of Depends now that 6G is around the corner