johnnychemo

Well....ROUND is a shape, ain't it??

Well, the Bucs haven't cut him....yet!!

Sullivan is still in a good mood from the Sabres run. He'll get back to being his usual caustic pessimistic self as soon as we get a good three day stretch of rain!

Of course that play got flagged because he was past the LOS when he threw it...

The way to take the pressure off the young QB is to rely heavily on the run game, esp on 1st and 2nd down to avoid the dreaded 3-&-long. The O-line was generally unable to get any kind of push for the running game to provide the performance necessary to keep the O out of trouble. So we can probably summarze the TD miscalcs as follows (in no particular order): 1 - loss of PW and lack of suitable replacement, killing defensive pass rush and seriously hampering run stop ability 2 - lack of serious attention to O-line via draft/free agency crippling the offense. (I'd give TD a pass on the Mike Williams fiasco, though, as the whole league thought he'd be a top tackle in this league coming out of college.) 3 - annointing JP as starting QB led to locker room discontent, and failure of team leadership to contain it caused on the field problems - ie Moulds in Miami, Adams, etc. Any one of these alone would probably be fairly easily overcome, however together it basically took the team back to a rebuilding scenario.

Kinda like a brain scientist.....

Yeah, and David Carr isn't exactly lighting up the league. Moulds may wind up in a "Buffalo South" situation!

that was Taylor and Moore, not Norton.

Because Pitts are still alive in the playoffs maybe?

I think a bit part of the secondary problem is the lack of pressure generated by the Dline. I don't care who is back there, if a QB has 6 secs unmolested to get rid of the ball, someone will be open and he will be found!

Nope, I'd think he'd say "Football doesn't build character, it reveals it."

No, the original plan was that a strong running game and an elite defense and special teams would make the rookie qb's job easy enough that all he'd have to do is hand the ball off and make a handful of throws a game (ala Rothlisburger.) Instead we've got a sieve-like defense, special teams that frankly haven't been all that special, and an offense that has so far managed to scrape together 2 decent games out of eight played. Not to mention coaches who excel at outsmarting themselves.

Developing a QB takes time, no question about it. When do you start the process? Keep JP on the bench, start the process next year. If he is a bust, then you are looking at '10 or '11 for a decent qb (unless you find someone in FA.) Start the process now-that's my point. Much of the talent we have on the team is not producing at this point. The easy part of the schedule is over. The next weak sister we play is NYJ (at NY) in the last game of the season. Can you honestly see getting more than 2-3 wins when you are facing KC, SD, NE, Carolina, Cinci, Denver, Mia, and the Jets? The season will be an absolute meaningless waste unless we use it to work toward a long term answer on the QB question. I've been seeing KH having many moments where he looked like JP in that last few games! So even if this teams loses the next 3 games, and is essentially eliminated from the playoffs, you would still start KH? To what purpose? Ok, so you don't want a top 10 pick. I disagree. But there are plenty of teams that would take it in a heartbeat. It would be good tradebait at the very least.

The difference is draft position. If this season is going to be the bust I think it will be, there will be at least some decent outcome if a)JP get's some seasoning for next year and b)we get a top 10 pick. In my mind, we are wasting this year with KH at the helm. This team will not make the playoffs. The O-line has too many question marks and the D is a sieve and can't get off the field on 3rd down. If we keep as we are going, we will be having this same conversation next year at the midway point.

10. Ralph, getting' senile, told MM "Start Kelly!" 9. JP kept parking in MM's spot. 8. Keep focus on football now that hockey started up again. 7. Too many warm fuzzies from sports talk radio. 6. Team too unified- needed a good quarterback controversy. 5. Wanted to see how many snotty questions he could get from Sullivan. 4. "I thought the first four games were PRE-season?" 3. Part of "the plan" to ease jp into starting role. Next year, he starts 5 games. 2. Holcomb finally figured out "paper covers rock." 1. Bet TD $5 he could "Make JP cry like Leaf."

Yeah, but RICH, fat, drunk, and stupid is another story!

While I like the pick, let's wait until JP has a couple of seasons as starter under his belt before we give him the accolades for this pick.

Actually it is. "Glockenspiel" is just the German name for what we call "orchestra bells."

Hard to tell who wants to lose this game more.