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Football, right? I 100% agree that Watson is #1 right now out of these 2 divisions.. Rivers was bad every time I watched him last year. I would much rather have Allen or Darnold over him and possibly even Fitzpatrick, unless he somehow recaptures some of him previous form, which given his age, is not a guaranteed. More likely, he will continue to regress. Tannehill had a great season, but given what I have seen from him in the past, I don't believe he will maintain that level of play. The Jaguars QB situation is a mess and they will likely be in the running for Trevor Lawrence next season. It is close (to me) but I think it is a fair argument that the AFCE QB's might be better as a group than the AFCS. I now see that I am probably the only one that feels this way.

I don't put as much faith in the QBR rankings, but clearly I am on an island here either way. I would take Allen over anyone in that division, except for Watson, regardless of what the QBR says... I guess I'm a fool. By the way, are you sure Fitpatrick's QBR was that low? I saw a list that had him in the top 10.

Wow! I'm not saying I'm right, but damn, I guess I rate Darnold and Allen higher than you and DCOrange do. For example, Watson is the only QB in the AFC South that I rank higher than either of them. and then Rivers Tannehill and Minshew? Yes, Tannehill had a good year but I would not take him over Allen or Darnold and Rivers and Minshew are below 3 of the 4 starters in the AFCE. Like I said, I guess I am higher on Darnold/Allen, then you are...

What about the AFC South, with Watson, Rivers, Tannehill and Minshew/Glennon/Dobbs? Or the NFC East with Prescott, Jones, Wentz and Haskins? I would rank those groups below the AFCE, but I guess it depends how you are ranking them...

I am very much willing to say that is not the case. I am sure the crack research team here at TBD can come up with a list of divisional QB's that ranked below this one, which includes 3 first rounders and a relatively successful veteran journeyman. I'm just too lazy to do the research myself.

After a few losing seasons, there will be much fewer of them. #fairweatherfans. #TampaBayherewecome

I love how competitive those two are with each other. I really hope they spend the next 10 plus years competing with each other for first place in the AFCE.

It is at least a step in the right direction. For the team and for Allen.

For the most part that is true, but just because Sanchez did it doesn't mean Allen isn't a good QB. I have context. I watched those games and frankly saw him make plays in some of those drives that very few QB's in the league could make. Does he make head scratchingly bad plays sometimes too? Sure, he is a second year QB. BUT, using the context that I have, watching those comebacks, I believe he is an above average QB, with the potential to be elite. Those comebacks were not a statistical anomaly, they were by and large the result of Allen making great plays and his teammates rallying behind him because of his ability.

I am guessing Jets fans would have an issue with that...

Seriously? He had an NFL leading 5 game winning drives last year. (tied with Watson and Wilson) I am sure the detractors will claim that we shouldn't have been behind in the first place, but reality is we won several games because of him last season, not in spite of... I respectfully disagree with your take.

We aim to please...

Or... we are just looking for things to talk about until the season starts back up. If you have better things to do, feel free to go do them...

Ok, I'll take that criticism since I used the word "agenda". Reality is, I generally like Orlovsky and the way he breaks down QB play, I just disagree with him saying Josh Allen is the 3rd best QB in our division. I figured we needed something else to talk about besides Ed Oliver's DWI.

I said that? Ok...

Ha! Maybe that is why I posted this, I am seeking validation. I have watched every snap Allen has taken as a pro, not to mention every practice throw I can find, etc. and I am very excited about his potential as a pro. I know he has flaws and areas that he will need to keep improving, but I rank him closer to where you just did. That's why I took note of DO ranking him below an injured rookie. I wonder if I am a homer with blinders on.

Thank you. That is my point. Not to mention, that QB is coming off of a pretty major injury and probably won't be 100% this season. I just thought it was strange that he put him ahead of Allen, considering Fitzpatrick is likely the starter for game 1.

I didn't say it wasn't a Dan Orlovsky bashing thread... My point is I am not complaining that the Bills aren't getting enough love and attention in general, I am disagreeing with this one particular take.

Kind of. He tends to go back and forth on him. I just can't believe he would rank a rookie over a QB who just took his team to the playoffs.

I know these rankings don't mean anything at all, but until the season starts, we have nothing better to talk about. This is ridiculous. He ranked Darnold number 1, Tua at #2! then Allen and then Stidham. How the hell can you rank Tua higher than Allen after everything he accomplished so far? I am fine with him favoring Darnold right now, even though I disagree, but come on! Tua? We are getting a lot of love right now from the media, so this isn't a media bashing thread, just a statement at how bad Orlovsky's take is. He seems to have an agenda against Josh Allen, which he continues to attribute to "inaccuracy".

Reed, then Moulds. Who’s #3, Lee Evans?

This is why players should live in Buffalo. Instead of calling the cops on him, someone would have driven him home to make sure he got there safely...

I say we call him Diesel. Motor and Diesel make a great 1-2 punch.

Maybe we can set up the Jumbotron as a giant Zoom meeting and pump in all of our "crowd noise" while we are watching in our living rooms!!

Yeah, that 4 minute drill video was very encouraging. We all have bad memories of us playing with a lead and letting it slip away. If he can run out a clock in the NFL, like he did in college, it will be a joy to watch. (and we will all eventually learn how to relax when we are winning in the 4th Quarter)