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You were supporting the mob and the TSW mob was who that comment was in referral to. Wasn't meant for you specifically.

Says a member of the TSW mob who's calling card is name calling with "shut up" and "get out of here you troll" being their two biggest debating points.

But, but, but...but he only needs more talent!!!! Then you'll see, and then have to beg forgiveness for doubting Dick Jauron!!!!

Didn't you know? The TSW mob will label you as being "retarded", a troll, a moron, and a dumb fuc# for having this less than favorable opinion of golden boy Donte Whitner. If you dare believe this of their beloved Donte Whitner then you have no understanding of football, let alone the "nuances" of the game.

Football is about as "nuanced" as a sledgehammer to the face. It sounds like a word that our overly-analytical scared to death loser head coach would use.

I don't think football is a "nuanced" sport. I think football is a game about knocking the snot and the ball from a player.

I think Whitner is a average safety (which is not good if you look at the safety list) with zero "big play" making skills. I don't buy into the excuses about why it's the Bills' scheme and not Whitner himself. The Tampa 2 is supposed to feature the SS skills, not mask them. As a Bills fan, I'm sick and tired of hearing why nothing is Whitner's or Jauron's fault. All fans here seem to care about is that the guy can tackle. Yippee! He can tackle! This Donte Whitner love is truly mystifying to me. Is it too much to ask that he separate the ball from the ball carrier? That he tips a pass into the hands of another Bill defender? That he himself can snare an interception from time to time? How about stuffing a RB on a 3rd and one power dive? I swear, game in game out, the guy is nearly invisible.

Says the adult who champions people calling other people "retarded". Read the thread again, it's the Whitner supporters who are acting like little brats just because some fans aren't down with a loudmouthed dunken tasered mess of a former 8th pick overall DB with only 2 interceptions in 42 games.

My Dad is dead, but don't let that stop you from yucking it up.

The fact that you chose to use that word to try disparaging me speaks volumes about your maturity level. You do realize that there's a high probability that there are members here that have children with special needs? It's just an opinion. Fans here were tearing me a new one when two years ago I was suggesting that Jauron was a horrible coach. I certainly nailed that one. Whitner's very productive???? That's insulting to Bills fans who still know what watching "very productive" players was like back in the Kelly days. At best, Donte Whitner is an average NFL safety. Even if he was the tenth best safety, he's no where near the guys who are game changers. Now try expanding your vocabulary and find a new putdown term, k?

As a #8 pick he sucks, especially considering how great a player Ngata is. If he were picked in the second or third he'd be considered as an ok guy who could get bounced from his starting job if a rookie or free agent fared much better in training camp. I don't have a sense of worry about what our defense would do without Donte Whitner. To me, that's a bad indictment of a player. For as much talking the guy does, I'd love to see him have to fight for a starting job. Sorry, but he's as much of a failure as Losman was and Donte was picked 18 spots higher as a rookie. Don't get the Whitner love at all. It reminds me of the Jauron love last year.

I don't care if they got rid of him or not, but if Byrd or someone else looks as good during training camp then I'd love to see them get a shot at starting. I find it funny that one of his big supporters here just stated that if you even debate Whitner's skills then you're a moron, then he goes on to describe him as just a "solid" football player! Even his biggest supporters can't bring themselves to go beyond describing him as only "solid". He was the 8th pick in the draft and has done much less to help the Bills win in his career than Losman, who was drafted 18 spots lower. Sorry, but he's a third rounder kind of talent who was a major reach by the Bills. The pundits were right in laughing at that pick. I was hoping the Bills would be seen as the smart and crafty one's, but how foolish I was to think that. Initial gut reactions are generally the right reactions. Donte who??!! Real great pick there Marv and Dick.

Until proven otherwise, I'd rank the Bills behind the Browns at #25. Trent Edwards can't throw touchdown passes which is kind of a high on the priority list for a QB.

You called the OP's post ridiculous, called him uneducated all the while making the insinuation that low post count totals somehow is equivalent to a Bills fan's level of football knowledge. Don't throw stones if you aren't prepared for the blow back. Whitner has played 42 games for the Bills, he was picked 8th in the draft. Dude has just 2 interceptions. For all the angry and hate-filled criticisms that the former 26th pick JP Losman took while he was here, at least he threw 29 touchdown passes for the Bills. 2 freaking lousy interceptions in 42 games for a former 8th pick????? Don't get mad because the OP was telling the truth. For someone who's a former 8th pick overall, Whitner does stink.

1. Dick Jauron 2. Chris Kelsay 2b. Uniforms

Another Whitner jock sniffer. Dude sucks, please tell him I said that on his facebook for me.

Well played. We need more of your kind here. There are way to many Buffalo Bill jock sniffers here who get angry at actual unbiased and unfiltered evaluations of certain players. Donte "The Bust" Whitner is one of these players. Maybe it's because they don't want to admit that they were initially right when Whitner was picked and all Bills fans collectively said "WTF?!", but then soon bought into the Whitner myth while tearing down the NFL pundits calling him a major reach. Dude was indeed a major reach, he sucks on the football field, and he's been tasered for being a belligerent drunken mess out in public. Sorry, but I don't ever remember a "star" NFL player being tasered before. I think some of these Donte jock sniffers are his facebook buddies or something.

I was the first one here to mention that Whitner could be benched and I'm glad that sentiment is spreading. Whitner is perhaps the most overrated player in the NFL. I don't ever remember him making a game changing play in his 42 or so games as a Bill, and when you consider that that was going to be his primary roll as the #8 pick overall, well you can see why the coaches would have had it with him and bench him if he continues to be a merely average to below average safety. Everyone knows that this coaching staff has no more wiggle room, it's time for everyone to put up or sit your ass on the pine. I would not be surprised in the least bit, and I'd in fact cheer the move.

That's like saying Rosie Odonnell is just a Jenny Craig weight loss program away from being as hot as Valerie Bertinelli.

Please give it up. It's truly sad to see a Bills fan so delusional as to think that Dick Jauron is not the sole person responsible for his embarrassing 7 out of 8 losing seasons record as an NFL head coach. Hey wait, you know what? You're right. The Bills did have to face the Matt Cassel led Patriots twice, the geriatric led Jets twice, the Chad Pennington led Dolphins twice, the Brady Quinn led Browns at the Ralph...and oh yeah, they had the misfortune of having to face the much vaunted San Francisco 49ers at home as well. I can see why Jauron wasn't at fault there, those teams were soooo much more talented than our team which started out their season 5-1. It's no wonder the Bills failed to win one game out of that immortal group of teams.

It's truly amazing how "teflon" Dick Jauron is when it comes to escaping criticisms from the national NFL media. He's clearly the anchor who's dragging this team down, yet he gets the hands off approach because of how beloved he is as a person of integrity (yes, we all agree that he's a nice man) completely ignoring his laughably bad skills as a head coach. With a real coach this team get to 9 or 10 wins, with Jauron they will fall off the cliff when, being led by a lame duck, they fall out of contention by Thanksgiving.

Pats 11-5 Jets 9-7 Dolphins 9-7 Bills 5-11 ...and gool 'ol loser Dick Jauron looks like Bernie Madoff heading towards his car with security. Sorry, but Dick has given me no signs this offseason that he's willing to change his losing approach. In 2010, the last of the Jauron supporters will learn that it was Jauron's coaching and not the players fault.

That Supermodel has more competitiveness in her pinky finger than Dick Jauron has in his entire emotionless body. Seriously.

You don't say... http://www.stadiumwall.com/index.php?showtopic=88739&hl=

Like a little kid could would know who the hell Bill Parcells is! Your naive buddy. Jauron's problem is that he does treat them like men. The Bills maybe have a few good men on the team, but by and large these are kids that need to be fearful of keeping their jobs, they need to be held accountable for any lack of effort and intestinal fortitude. This is Jauron's biggest failure. He actually gives them the benefit of the doubt that they are trying real hard when it's clear on Sundays that that's just not the case. He's a loser head coach, deal with it.