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1billsfan

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  1. Nobody ever thought that the Twin Towers could ever be destroyed in one day by radical fundamentalists using two commercial jets either. Nobody ever thought that America would ever vote for a socialist who was a complete unknown. I don't dismiss anything now. I wish I could, but I can't. We all need to have transparency on the who's and why's of this project.
  2. I'm a former moderate democrat. Only a liberal would see my views as extreme far right. We'll see who's "extreme" this november. Enjoy your last hurrah.
  3. This is the same sort of putdown that the independents were using against the "Obama is a socialist" crowd. How many "Oops! My bad." can America take? Why you believe in this imam's peaceful motivations even though his own writings and interviews tell a different story is beyond me. We are at war with radical islamic fundamentalists. Deception is their carrying card. Peaceful muslims need to seriously start calling out and fighting back against the radicals here before it's too late. But I don't see any concentrated effort going on to eradicate them from within which is deeply disturbing to me.
  4. Far enough where they can not use the victory mosque to promote islman and sharia law off the backs of 2976 murdered Americans. Which is what they are doing... "We want to leverage our location and proximity of that sight to bring people to islam." "20 year tipping point of muslim dominance" http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,593329,00.html Anyone here with daughters and grand daughters willing to trust this imam isn't a radical muslim pretending to be a peaceful muslim to further his 20 year plan of muslim dominance and sharia law in America? That this isn't more about using the memory of 2976 murdered Americans to promote islam conversion and sharia law than it is about providing a place of worship for muslims in lower manhattan? However many blocks long the twin towers were tall would be a good measuring stick.
  5. No it's not. I have a feeling that a family member of a victim of 911 would not find any humor being attached to that day. You won't find any comedian go there and seeing members of this board try to make humor out of this "dust" is flat out disgusting. Family members of non-muslim victims who were vaporized are probably extremely upset that a victory monument to islam could be built upon the ground were their remains may have landed. Not all mind you, but the vast majority I'd bet.
  6. Oh, how the mighty have fallen. BTW, your official "Gold Al Sharpton Race Card" is in the mail.
  7. Less than 50% support it in Manhattan. Not such a ringing endorsement, eh? NYC rejects this mosque. It is not going to be built because there are many more conservatives and independents that will be going to the polls this november than the limousine liberals of Manhattan.
  8. I never said that it was constitutional to stop the building of the mosque. Although I think that it possibly could be done in the name of national security considering the imam's past radical comments and the war we are fighting against radical islam. But it won't come to that, it will come down to good old fashioned American public pressure against it that will force the imam to move the mosque's location.
  9. Epic fail... http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local-beat/...l-97602569.html
  10. It's embarrassing that you have nothing left to offer but to stoop to pulling out the race card. Al Sharpton would be so proud of you. Too bad for you, the American people have spoken and they think that your support for the mosque in Lower Manhattan in the name of religious freedom is utter nonsense. This will go the same way as the attempted NYC terrorist trials in NYC and everyone on the wrong side of this will be voted out this coming november. Americans are tired of being preached to and it's not going to be pretty for you liberals that day.
  11. Freedom of religion? Give me a break, there are over 100 mosques in NYC. Lower Manhattan is a commercial district so there isn't even a pressing need for a mosque there. This is a deliberate act by muslims to thumb their noses at America. Just like the insane terrorist trials being driven out of NYC by an outraged American public, so to will this middle finger of a mosque be driven out of Lower Manhattan because of an outraged American public who have the freedom to tell everyone supporting it to take a hike, then take a train or bus to a pity party in one of those 100 NYC mosques.
  12. The minute you liberals accuse the other side of being a bunch of racists is the minute you have nothing legitimate to say. As for the dust comment, the ones using it for their argument to stop the building of the mosque were referring to that dust as having human remains, you were obviously mocking them for which you needed to be called out on. It wasn't funny and you should feel ashamed for even phrasing it in a joking manner. You, Sean Penn and Micheal Moore can all move out of this country when we take it back this november from the liberal America haters like yourself.
  13. You're sick. Some of that "dust" contained the remains of Americans who's only crime was going to work that day.
  14. If someone can be radicalized because public outrage in America help stop the building a mosque at ground zero, then that person would have no doubt found something else to radicalize themselves over. The winning solution is the imam finding a building a few more blocks away in a building where one of the 911 plane's landing gear did not fly through the roof and floors.
  15. I heard today that there are over 100 mosques in the five boroughs of NYC. Given that, and the fact that NYC has the largest mass transit system in the world I feel like the religious freedoms argument is a very weak one. Making this statement is the old "cutting off your nose to spite your face" argument. Moving the mosque would be the biggest olive branch ever the muslims could hope to extend. Let's see what's more important. I'm guessing it's the making of a statement and building the mosque.
  16. I know that all other faiths have had shameful pasts, but the difference is that in todays world the pope would denounce a radical faction of terrorists if it were coming from his faith, rabbi's around the world would denounce a radical faction of terrorists if it were coming from their group. The fact that there is no one denouncing it in the muslim world makes me question why that is. If I did see this then I would probably be much more easily swayed and maybe even sympathetic. As for this mosque, did you know that one of the plane's landing gear went through this building? That makes it part of ground zero. The imam who's building it won't denounce hamas as a terrorist organization, he believes that America was partly responsible for 911. I am outraged at the insensitivity being shown here by the group wanting to build it. Yes, the mosque can be built, but at what cost to your faith? When the terror groups are using this mosque as a propaganda tool then will you feel that this was still a good idea? It will go from, "YEAY! We proved our point!", to "Wait, why do all these people hate us?" Where is the common sense? Where is the decency? It's wrong and it will have the opposite effect of bringing people together. If you want the hate to be let go then not building the mosque there would be a good start.
  17. Who...DC Tom? Bill Maher? Rosie O'Donnell? Janeane Garofalo? Their opinions mean less than nothing to me. As for your question, I would refuse any mosque, being built anywhere, in this country by an imam who thinks that America was partly responsible for 911 during an ongoing war. I consider that a radical opinion from a religious leader who's religion's radical factions mass murdered 2976 Americans that day.
  18. Let's start with a mosque who's Imam doesn't think that America was partly to blame for 911.
  19. I have a more "Dirty Harry" approach to world politics. I will never forget the dancing in the streets in the muslims countries after 911. Hence, I will forever have the impression that the majority of muslims were on the side of the terrorists. Maybe if I had seen a forceful and vocal blowback of the radicals by the supposed "moderate" muslims then I'd have a different feeling and impression. But from the silence that I've seen this last decade, that hasn't happened.
  20. We're at war with radical muslims. I don't trust muslims for that reason alone. If there is a faction of moderate muslims who want to fully assimilate into the American fabric then they've remained awfully quite for the last decade. I see their silence as a sign of support and approval. You want sharia law, then don't come here. You think American women are evil because of the way they dress, then don't come here. You think that we should all convert or be killed, then don't come here. Even liberal France has had enough of their non-assimilating crap.
  21. Perhaps it's the highjackers' screams of "Allahu Akbar!!!! Allahu Akbar!!!!" right before they turned the World Trade Center Twin Towers in the lower end of NYC into a gigantic, smoldering pile of rubble that included 2976 innocent people. You seriously need to get your head examined. The only reason muslims here weren't cheering and dancing in the streets was because they were scared of us back then. If a 911 happened again I could see muslims dancing in the streets right here in America because they no longer respect us or our wuss of a president. The fact that they are even trying this just shows you how little respect they have for this country and the people in it.
  22. Tell that to the 2976 people who were murdered that day. To answer your question, yes I would be opposed. Also, any other religion would not even think of moving forward with this level of shameful provocation. I heard that there are 30-50 mosques in the NYC. They can go to one of those and be respectful to the memory of the most traumatic day in modern US history.
  23. Only people like you would need to see actual highjacker portraits in the building for it to dawn on you that this 10 story mosque is nothing but a big muslim fist bump to the jihadists around the globe. They want you to convert or die, and this is the biggest billboard ever that will further the cause. They said that they're trying to heal wounds between religions, well it's clearly having the opposite effect and they obviously couldn't care less. So that right there should tell you that they are full of !@#$ with the reasoning for why and where they are building it.
  24. We must be reading differing reports on the reaction. From what I've read, the number of those people who hold this opinion is a fraction. Let me ask you this, what should the feelings be of the people of Oklahoma City when Tim McVie's family members build a museum honoring him next to the parking lot that was once the federal building? Would you be in favor of them doing this (because it's their legal right) or would you be opposed to that?
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