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Tortured Soul

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  1. 2) The Bills marketed Spiller right after the draft. It is easier to market a person who scores or throws for touchdowns than it is to market a big, ugly lineman. And, Spiller didn't sell seats because he didn't play well. Besides, this question was ridiculous as I'm sure it was intended to be. Who do you think would sell more tickets, Orlando Pace or Marshall Faulk?

     

    I really don't think the question was ridiculous, and I sure didn't mean it to be. I just don't know of anyone who bought tickets because of Spiller. I bought tickets long before the draft, and I think the vast majority of tickets (when you consider season ticket holders) were sold then. Maybe people liked the pick and bought tickets on that basis, but it is just as likely that fans (such as you and I) would have liked the pick of a lineman and bought tickets on that basis.

     

    I know you're not the first to say the Spiller pick was done to sell tickets. But it's always directed at other fans who bought tickets because of the pick. I'm skeptical that they exist. And I am very skeptical that a winning team would not sell more tickets than an exciting player.

     

    Edit: I do realize that it's easier to draft exciting players than build a winning team. But not by that much.

  2. Players such as Dareus are not "ticket sellers." I know.....winning sells tickets, but there has been too much of a propensity in Buffalo to draft "flashy," skill position players. The glut of early defensive backs in prior years can imo be blamed on the asinine philosophy of Levy/Jauron. I give Mr. Wilson much credit for stepping back, instead of drafting for short term profit.

     

    Two questions:

     

    Are you saying that you think the Spiller pick was driven by Ralph and not Nix?

     

    Have you ever actually met anyone who bought tickets because they drafted Spiller instead of a lineman? The idea that those types of moves sells tickets is thrown around a lot, but is there any hard evidence to base it on?

     

    Thanks for your thoughts

  3. We needed a second thread?

     

    I thought so. The other thread is about people's opinions. This is a list from someone's whose job it is to know such things. But I see your point.

     

    This whole "Next Year's QB Class" is old and boring.

     

    It was said in 2009 when Bradford, McCoy, Clausen, Tebow, and supposedly Locker were coming out the following year.

     

    It was said last year when Locker, Mallet, and supposedly Luck were coming out.

     

    I'd want to see anyone saying anything about those quarterbacks that compare to what Bunting said about Luck.

  4. Not sure what your point is…I agree that pick value and player value are not the same…the question remains the same:

     

    Let me frame it this way: how would Bills fans feel if they knew that the Bills turned down the same trade as the one Cleveland accepted?

    There was a thread on that a couple days ago. I think it included a poll.

     

    I would have done the trade.

  5. I think you'd have to start with Kyle Williams. He is the best player on the team, but:

    1. If Troup develops this year, then he is a better fit for what we are doing on defense.

    2. It's going to take a lot to get Luck.

     

    If the team with the top pick needs a QB, then I think there's practically nothing you can do to get the pick. If not, then the odds are pretty good their chief weakness is on defense.

  6. Sorry to say, But Mallet is not even listed in the top 50 players. Might be there in round three since most Qb needy teams already blew there wad and drafted one. Wait and let him slide. The players listed are rated on draftek as the top. Bowers was left out because he is damaged goods and not a fit for a 3-4 defense.

    Whose list is this?

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