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Murray will probably do well enough long-term, but he got rekt by Patrician scheme yesterday. He was throwing the ball right to defenders, like he was seeing ghosts.

Chris Simms had a good take about the Rams' success at rushing was 100% scheme, and targeting the Bills' base 4-2-5 nickel - specifically isolating Taron Johnson. Which is why he led the team in tackles. Basically, hat-on-hat for the front-6 and scheme Johnson into first, making a decision as to run or pass, and second, have him (at best) as the guy who should be in the hole 1-v-1 on the back. Buffalo could use a top level EDGE on defense but a positionless, Isaiah Simmons/Kyle Dugger type defender in a 4-2-4 would make the Bills defense incredible, because that would counter this scheme.

This is a reasonable take, but I think the expectations (as of a month ago) of maxing out eventually - if development goes perfectly - of maybe a 4000 yds/30 TD season someday, has to be reset.

I want to give this post an award of some sort.

Well, the first thing I do here is consider what are opposing D's going to scheme to stop him. Set edges and just contain him in the pocket? Hahaha no, give him time to throw and he find the open guy. Pressure up the middle and force scrambles and off-platform throws? Hell no, his numbers are actually better there. Zone? No, too much velocity on the throws. DBs can't get there in time. Man? No, throws with touch and anticipation. Take away underneath? No, someone who throws 80 yards and has Diggs and Brown takes the top off. Play soft and deep? No, they'll just dink down the field with little digs and outs. I dunno man. #17 is The Problem, alright. Just not for the Bills.

"I was supposed to cover that guy, wasn't I"

Doing it with the arms and the legs? This Mahomes kid looks like a poor man's Josh Allen

Jared Allen to Tyler Kroft?

See what happens when a kicker tries to make in-game corrections after sneaking a couple just inside the right upright?

Wonder if any consideration will be given to non-STH who had purchased game tickets which were forcibly refunded.

Cringeworthy? To me cringeworthy is throwing it right to a defender. Like Darnold x2, Kyler Murray x3 yesterday. Like Matt Ryan xClutch or Mitch Trubisky xCareer. Hell, even Dak Prescott. Which Allen throws were you referencing, or is it some lesser standard being applied?

Ha ha! I see what they did there

what Allen has that the others didn’t is the biggest arm on an omnidirectional tank with shocking speed and elusiveness and apparently a mind that processes as fast as some top tier guys and a burning desire to win and a magnetic personality to be a leader of men. Most QBs are are lacking in at least a few of these traits, even the HoF guys. He really is what the draft pubs said about being a Frankenquarterback that looks like some lab creation like the Super Soldier Project, it’s like nothing I can recall from any era.

“Awwwww, poor ewe”

Really would have liked to see DK Lettcalf’s halfass cost the Seahawks, but then I appreciate a nice schadenfreude

TD throw to Marcedes Lewis IIRC, and Cris Codswallop commented after the break about throwing the ball up there to let your big target go "rebound that basketball." While a lesser yardage there's similarity to the Kroft play with the small push-off (not called because Saints get screwed more than Bills) and the late help coming from inside. Edit: found it

Some of these arguments on this thread just baffle me. A throw that lands in his receivers hands is now a heave into the wilderness. If this is how far we have to strain to criticize the QB, then I'm satisfied the Bills got their guy.

Funny, all the other QBs get praised for throwing jump balls to their big targets downfield who are physical mismatches and can go up and highpoint the ball and come down with it (see: SNF). Just not Allen, it's reckless when he does it.

1-2, Booger McFarland playing QB in a Hoveround beats the Jets.

Cris Collinsworth: "Quarterbacks willingness to throw the ball up and give the receivers a chance, you got a big body down there to rebound the basketball and I think it's gonna be my guy" Now I know where PFF gets it, when Rodgers does it it's genius, when Allen does it it's reckless.

If you're catching passes from Aaron Rodgers, I guess that isn't OPI. Or a Saints interception.

Yeah, I'm also gonna go with the deep-fryer.

"Oh it's ok to have a skate in the crease if it's not near the goalie, here have a Stanley Cup" This is the level you're operating at, NFL. Think about if that's what you want.

Spittin' image of Robert Woods, before he went wherever he went...