Robert Paulson

besides fixing the lines and other personnel upgrades that is what Marv needs to do and i believe will do. MM really got screwed up over the course of this year and regressed- perhaps being micromanaged contributed to this. Marv needs to teach MM on how to be a head coach and then not get in the way. hopefully Marv brings some guidance as an ex coach that did pretty well during his time here and can help MM in these areas that he was lacking in this year: -setting a team strategy and sticking to it -smash mouth vs. west coast vs. etc. offense -bend don't break vs. attack vs. etc. defense -assembling a capable coaching staff of teachers and coordinators who can game plan and adjust -teaching/coordinating your assistants and then letting them coach -managing in game situations: challenges, time outs, go for it vs. punt etc. -player relations and commanding respect:buddy vs. hard ass- choose one-can't be both Marv turning MM into half the Head Coach Marv was takes us from 5-11 to 8-8. that + a fixed o line and d line & a learning and playing JP gives us 11-5 hopefully this can all happen next year but i think it goes like this: 2006: 8-8 2007: 11-5 playoffs 2008: 13-3 win super bowl JP is MVP that or the team goes 5-11 the next 3 years, Ralph passes away and the team is sold and moved to L.A.

50/50

Negatives -the Pack have no offensive line left, no healthy running backs, few receivers and no QB (Favre is a goner) -they will be in cap hell due to Favre leaving. -the special teams are poor Positives -patient managemnt group -the defense is playing better under Bates -there is still a glow from last decades superbowl win= happy fans -most fans knew this day was coming once Favre retires that they would suck for a few years. think of Bills fans from 95-2000 vs Bills fans from 2001 to 2005 Bottom Line there will be a 3-5 year grace period in GB for a new coach. this would make the GB job a little more attractive than Buffalo IMO

i hope KH started the last 2 games to prove to some one higher up in the org (Ralph) that he sucks. that is what i am left with to try to rationalize the decision. JP needs to develop. we have blown 2 years screwing around and we still do not know if he will be great, good or bad. how can you tell after 8 starts on a sh-- team? i don't think JP was truely hurt-if he was hurt that bad than disclose it and make him #3 or put him on IR- why the charade? if it was MM trying to save his job he failed and should be fired. if it was lil Erwic crying to Ralph that JP does not throw to him than both MM and TD should be fired (TD should be fired anyways) and Ralph should sell the team if anything this should clear the way for JP to start all games next year and not be pulled unless he has a horrible camp and preseason. i would like to know what London Fletcher and Chris V think of Mr. 4 int, 2 fumbles, dink and dunk today.

AMEN

i love it: 'holcombites' this team has far too many questions on the o line, d line and both aged safety positions to even fantasize that this is a deep playoff team if it was a potential deep playoff team this year or could be one next year than sure go with KH to put them over the top. he can manage a game and let a dominant special teams, D and running game be the focii. the kool aid drinking fans and some of the kool aid drinking players might think we are close but we are not. if the goal is to get into the playoffs next year so we can be destroyed by a real team- fine start KH and again limit the development of JP. but we can't get back the last 6 missed playoff years so forget about them - they should not enter into the thought process if the goal is to be a top team for many years and win the super bowl then JP must start even if it means another season of pain. that is what he was drafted for. we should have had the season of pain last year and we blew the season of pain again this year. starting KH gets us no closer to the super bowl in 2-4 years but maybe gets us slaughtered in the 1st round woopee

TD wanted big ben pitt took him TD panicked, moved up and went for JP i still like JP and believe he will be good i also believe TDs drafts have not been fruitful but he has done above average in Free Agency Conclusion- fire TD

i thought he missed a lot of holes this year. he tended to run into the back of the pile and be stopped instead of cutting into space. i screamed a half dozen times a game about this.

the 4 things you mentioned are 4 things young QBs struggle with. How will all of these things be solved with him watching Mr 8-8 KH play? jesu christo!!! JP has not even started 16 games and people are calling him a bust if KH had started we would be roughly where we are now. we would not have been a playoff team. we do not have the D or O line for that.

no who wants to see K H throw 3 yard outs on 3rd and 8 while JP watches from the sidelines what a wasted year

that is how i felt the last 3 Tuesdays. it's better that we lost. Sunday night sucks, Monday sucks, but by Tuesday you realize it is for the best that we lose. this gives: no more Whitey, bye MM, better draft picks, and Ralph hopefully telling the new G.M. to fix the damn lines.

agreed

just like christmas eve dinner with the relatives -spelling not accurate most are the equivalent of damn or !@#$ in english depending on volume/inflection madonna!- virgin mary ella madonna! - to hell with virgin mary porco dio!- pig god putanna!- whore figlio/figlia di putanna!- son/daughter of whore mingia!- dick meeschka!- darn jesu christo! va fungoo la cooloo! - go get effed in the a$$ -dio cane is a new one for me, (god dog i think) my relatives spanned the boot from Sicilia to Abruzzi to Friuli so i would think one of them would have used it- must be this guys obscure fave

ESPN is using the Bills old capacity of 80,020 to get the 89.9% full. with the loss of seats due to new boxes the capacity is now 70-73M (i am too lazy to look it up) ESPN needs to hire some intern fact checkers.

sorry, just Lay's but the only supermarkets i find them in are Buffalo and WI.

it is the closest thing to Buffalo fans even more up here. every night of the year one of the local channels leads off with 'inside the packer zone' Packers, Upers and Hunters are about it up here. the cheese is average at best, there are some artisinal cheese makers but mostly it is 8 oz bricks of cobly, cheddar, monterye jack that all tatses the same and is just coloured differently. the curds are good but good curds can be found in western ny and quebec also. fried boloney and salt and vinegar chips are popular here also- i thought those were mostly Buffalo things.

i would rather pick 5th even it means losing out

Jackson is doing absolutely nothing up here in Wisconsin. he does not need to be signed.

i voted for Denney just because there was no place to vote for NONE. the turning pionts of the game yesterday were J reed's two drops.

sorry to scare you and i don't know why my email address is dead. there used to be a 'club' at my high school called "Tiger Joe's" named after the old football coach. i was not a member but knew people in it. just was wondering if i knew you. thanks for the response.

Cazadores (hunter) it is in a 750 ml standard liquor bottle has an elk or mule deer on the label when i used to travel to Mexico to work- that is what all the local white collars drank Cabo Wabo is for Gringos

the 1st rule is ...

i know- my spelling and grammer are both terrible

name one even the rams were up and coming (they had most of the pieces in place) when they greatly improved that year and won the bowl the Giants this year- they tore it down and rebuilt, this is year 3 with potential for playoffs, next year they may be a bowl contender by the way - i said 2-4 years, not 5 how's free agency working for the 'skins?

i used to post a lot on this board under a few other names. i mostly just read now due to time, job constraints. but i'm sick of hearing how we need to go to the playoffs- anything can happen. the only thing that will happen ti this team if they make the playoffs in the next 2 years is that they will get destoyed by a real team- see the last 'playoff' game we were in- week 17 against the steelers sunk costs are sunk that is what an Economics Professor told me. you should not make a decision on a stock etc. today based on what you spent on it 1, 3, 5 years ago etc. you make your decision based on the value and potential today. i say this because many of the people on this board are complaining we have not been to the playoffs in 5 years and we need to go now. so we must do whatever it takes to get there now. well the 5 year plan of Whitey's is sunk. it failed and we can not get it back. tough titty- deal with it what we do have is a team with an old defense, average o line, decent skill positions on offense for the most part and either a 1st year starter as a qb or a journeyman. we are not a playoff team by any stretch and certainly not a super bowl contender we are 2-4 years away today from being a superbowl contender. deal with it. we need to get JP experience, draft o line and d line, hope willis and a few other young stars stay healthy, productive and on the team & dump any over the hill expensive lost a step guys to get the yopunger guys reps. then maybe we can talk playoffs and super bowl in 2007 or 2008. this is a bad team now and it will be a bad team next year. trying to be 7-9 or 8-8 or 9-7 with KH just sets us back another year. not making the playoffs and drafting in the middle leads to not making the playoffs and drafting in the middle next year. we need to be 4-12 bad to get high draft picks we need to get jp and the younger guys with potential on the field to see if they 'got it' - not declaring them busts after 4 games with terrible game plans, lazy players around him etc. our goal should be to win the super bowl and that is what our plan should be for- not to get embarrassed in a wild card playoff game and suck the next year again