Kelly to Allen

He's a franchise QB who is good. But so was Derek Carr and Kirk cousins

Josh Allen is off to one of the greatest statistical starts in NFL playoff history. He already has more playoff PASSING tds than, Rivers, Eli and Fouts in their entire career... He has the 2nd most tds in NFL playoff history for a QB in his first ten playoff games, only mahomes has been better in NFL history.... Allen has made the playoffs every single year after his rookie season. I agree this is offensive

Stroud is still developing and still won his division. That doesn't mean he's " bad". Ppl forgot Stroud actually won a playoff game last year , Herbert hasn't in 5 years now Texans are still a dangerous team in the playoffs They have a real front four and real CBS. It's going to be if Stroud can raise his level a bit. But I doubt it. He's ahead of schedule but still not there yet

Allen sat out or just handed the ball off in 5 4th qtrs last year. But it's a moot point because Allen was 1st in total tds tds ( by a significant margin) More passing touchdowns than Lamar More rushing tds than Lamar ( tied NFL record) More passing yds than Lamar More total yds than Lamar NFL record in offensive production % 1st in yds 1st in total EPA ( someone double check me, I can't remember) And a higher qbr then Lamar Allen was also 1st in passing EPA outside the pocket Allen was also first in big time throws Won the 2 seed The difference in turnovers was 9 If you magically turned the total difference in turnovers to tds for Lamar, Allen still had more tds... Allen also beat mahomes on the road Kurt Warner won MVP with more ints and turnovers No QB in NFL history has ever won MVP outside the top 10 in passing yds or passing tds...

They need to understand their limitations on the outside and condense their formations, run the football more and use rub routes, screens, te flare outs

Yes I agree, mahomes isn't MVP this year although it depends on the criteria or methodology, which goes wherever the wind blows. He deserved to be in the pro bowl tho over burrow. But that's missing the point entirely, ( not you, but DC orange is)

You don't understand the award or live in reality

And you still found a way to not only not do that, but say something insane and embarrassing.

I've lost faith in the intelligence of mankind after your statement... No I'm not kidding Im done with the MVP talk.

I want someone to explain to me like I'm 5 why Lamar has more MVPs and 1st team all pros than Mahomes and Montana. ( Tied with Montana/Brady in 1st team all pros) Someone do it

It really is North Korea level gaslighting

I don't even hate Lamar, fantastic player. And just being honest as a sports fan I hope he's great today. If he's not and they lose its just more patronizing to him as a professional athlete and it's not fair to him imo. Im not even kidding that I'll feel bad for him. It's completely inappropriate what the media is doing. Let Lamar play great in the playoffs and win a championship and then you can shower him with accolades and praise. The embarrassment is going to palpable today if he loses. And it's honestly not his fault. I blame the media.

He's a really good coach.

Yeah I personally think buffalo has a fantastic roster and top 3 at that. It's a fake narrative that everyone is just mid. Allen is deserving of the MVP because of his historical season and because of historical precedent

If Lamar loses today and has one of those 150 yd 2 int games the embarrassment will be palpable. Yet he'll still have more accolades than mahomes and Montana 😂 That's like next level pure North Korea style gaslighting and propaganda. Like end of the Saddam regime levels of delusional grandeur It's wild

Is Phillip Rivers getting in the Hof? I don't know Moon did make it but nobody remembers him or ranks him with the all time greats. Marino had one MVP and a super bowl appearance. If Marino didn't have neither he would be in the rivers tier of QBs. It matters what institutions say I don't want to argue because I'm pretty pissed off. Let's hope this playoff is his coronation

Really? Nobody talks about Warren Moon or Phillip Rivers if Rivers gets in. He won't be ranked among the greats unless things change. At this point he's going to need 2 super bowl victories

Dude I'm not in the mood. It hurts his legacy in a massive way today unless he can win a couple Superbowls His Hof case is absolutely not there necessarily depending on how things go , how long his career is and if he like I said God forbid he can't get to the super bowl It's frickin terrible. Truth is erased all the time dude. Stop being naive

That's another problem. God forbid Allen doesn't win a super bowl or ever get to one. Again don't underestimate the damage done today, and it was done on purpose.... It's not a lock he's going in the Hof without a super bowl win. And it really pisses me off

Institutions dictate the consciousness and the masses repeat it. All ppl will remember is Allen had no first team all pros or MVPs and if he can even break through once and win a championship it's not going to be remembered in history outside of buffalo. He'll be in the Hof but it will be remembered like If rivers won one super bowl... Incredible amounts of historical equity is lost. He won't be mentioned with the all time greats

Purposefully using revisionist history in any context to erase the truth in the past. It's applicable outside sports too It's just sad man. Ppl really don't understand how much of Allen's historical legacy took a hit today.

It's a moot point. This is going to hurt Allen's legacy in a major way years from now unless Allen can win 2 Superbowls.... Even one super bowl is not going to be enough to overcome 3 MVPs Again it's journalistic erasure

Kansas City. Any other answers are silly

I assumed the writers would be rational

KC has earned the praise and accolades. I don't hate KC at all and respect their greatness. It was earned.