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  1. 7 hours ago, SCBills said:


    Your point about KC being the key.  
     

    To me, a great regular season means getting the 1 seed.  We have yet to do that. 
     

    The 1 seed is the AFC is massive.  Not just a big deal … massive.  The one recent year KC didn’t get the 1, they were the 2, with the weakest 1 seed ever in Tennessee inevitably bowing out to give KC the de facto 1 in regards to home field. 

    They won their first superbowl with Mahomes as a #2 as well. Balt was #1 and got upset by Tennessee. 

  2. 3 hours ago, SCBills said:


    People keep saying it takes luck, but the Chiefs are literally always there in the end.   Before them, it was the Patriots.  
     

    I do agree, to an extent.  Give us a healthy Von Miller/Micah Hyde and the Chiefs losing Chris Jones for the year and who knows how things play out.  
     

    …. But at some point, luck/injuries can’t be the excuse when we just finished a dominant run by the Pats, only to usher in a new one by the Chiefs.   

    The common denominator with these two teams is the makeup of their qb’s. Both guys that are relentless in their pursuit of being the best. Brady has done it for 20yrs and now that torched has been passed to Mahomes. I read a report that Mahomes is holding a qb/receiver camp right now with his receivers. Doing this at this moment in the offseason while his contemporaries are enjoying their downtime. Not everyone can commit this kind of dedication. But that’s what separates him and Brady from everyone else. It isn’t luck. 

    8 hours ago, Behindenemylines said:

    But per the media we have lost the off-season already and are out of our window…and Allen is past his prime apparwntly

    Good! That kind of media dismissal did wonders for the Chiefs last season! Maybe it’ll have the same effect this year! 😂 

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  3. 44 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

    Pardon me. I thought Sky was a 1st rder

     

    So 2nd rder.  3rd rder this year

     

    And they demanded 10+ mil in FA. So they must've done something 

     

    Let's call Kelce and Diggs equal, at least statistically over the last 3 years n going forward, KC had more weapons. Now, they lose Juju and Hardman and Sky didn't look too good in year 1, this could be a rough year for Mahomes, unless Toney emerges as a legit WR

    Yeah I’m not holding my breath about Mahomes having a rough year. Kelce is still his #1 like we both noted. I doubt Toney will even last a whole season with his injury history. They’ll just add a couple of whoever WRs in the draft/FA and make it work. KC will probably be in the AFCCG again. Let’s hope the Bills can find a way to meet them there!

  4. 43 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

    But KC still had their #1 guy in Kelce , drafted a WR in rd 1, traded for a WR for a 3rd and brought in Juju and MVS for a combined 21 mil last year

     

    So to say they just let Tyreek go n surrounded Mahomes with nobodies is a joke

    KC took two defensive players in RD 1 last year not WR. What have all those WRs you mentioned done for their original teams except getting criticisms from fans? Kinda like Davis around here.

     

    Every qb needs a #1 and Kelce is Mahomes’ #1. The rest of their receiving corp can be jag’s. They don’t need to surround him with top flight weapons everywhere to be successful. That’s the flexibility and advantage they have. 

  5. 52 minutes ago, 2003Contenders said:

    A few other thoughts...

     

    1. The Chiefs' decision to part ways with Hill was partially $ based but team dynamics also played a role. Hill had become a head case and a major distraction to the team.

     

    2. Reid is one of the all time great play callers in NFL history. I marvel when I watch Chiefs games and wonder "How are defenses allowing Kelce to get so wide open?" Some of that is due to the generational talent that Kelce is -- but a lot of it is also based on schemes to get him open.

     

    3. Mahomes is great at buying time. Better, when he gets flushed from the pocket, there always seems to be a WR somewhere that has come back to bail him out.

     

    I would love to see the Bills' receivers better coached up to provide Josh with multiple options when a play breaks down, like Reid's Chiefs WRs are.

    #3 cannot be understated. Mahomes is a magician when it comes to buying time behind the line. He sees the whole field while running spinning around. Defenders start to lose their assignments or get drawn towards him leaving their guys wfo. Then he hits those receivers anywhere on the field in anyway he can. It’s crazy to watch. Something that I hope Allen can incorporate in his game to greater success. 

    53 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

    Yeah sorry, Josh isn't as good as Mahomes. 

     

    The Bills are not the Chiefs equals. 

     

    Beane is going to have to draft superstars, or add more talent to propel a less coach, a less QB, past them and the Bengals now. 

     

     

    The first point is a bitter pill to swallow but it gets reinforced year after year.

     

    Doesn’t mean Bills can’t win it all at some point. 

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  6. 2 hours ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

    Everyone not named the Chiefs needs to realize they aren’t the Chiefs.

     

    This was the logic flaw that WGR kept pushing last year when they were so quick to recite the odds to everyone as proof. 
     

    The Bills are not the Chiefs, neither are the Bengals, neither are the Jags, Ravens, Chargers or anyone else.

     

    Nobody on any roster is as good as Patrick Mahomes.

     

    As such, everyone else will have to accept the talent gap and create a different model that accumulates more roster talent than the Chiefs to overcome the gap at QB. 

     


     

     

    I completely agree with this take. KC has an advantage right now because their qb is ahead of everyone else’s. It doesn’t mean that gap can’t be closed at some point. But right now they’re operating with so much more flexibility. They lost 2 starting receivers and 2 starting tackles this offseason and no one bats an eye. They’ll just draft whoever at wr and watch them be productive because of Mahomes’ abilities and Reid’s creativity. 

  7. 26 minutes ago, SCBills said:


    I agree with what you say about McDermott.  He’s been given an enormous amount of resources, and unlike the Chiefs, the defense dominates in the regular season and is meh to bad in the postseason. 
     

    The reason I don’t list guys like Bolton, Thornhill etc., is because if Chris Jones gets hurt, their defense would get wrecked by a good offense.   Similar to what we saw without Von Miller.  
     

    You need good coaching and a couple elite game-changers.  All the “good” defenders in the world can’t stop a great offense that’s locked in, without a game-wrecker or two up front.  
     

    The Chiefs have Spags and Jones.  They’ve also made sure they have a Frank Clark or Melvin Ingram.  
     

    It’s why I don’t understand the angst over MLB.  Making sure we have some game-wreckers on the DL is far more important than Jack Campbell at MLB… what’s he gonna do against the Chiefs or Bengals if Von is out?  Nothing. 
     

    Now Drew Sanders can rush the passer… I’m intrigued by him.  
     

     

    Yeah agree about Jones. He’s their big impact player. Line play on both sides determine so much of the game. Von was so good in that game against KC. It was probably his best showing against Mahomes. Hopefully he can come back to be the same player. Finding a few more contributors on DL would go a long way next season. That’s why I wasn’t too excited when the defense ranked high during the regular season. I don’t think a true dominant defense exists in today’s NFL. 

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  8. 20 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said:

    I think you were just coming out negative more than anything.. Again the issue is... people around here are warry of new accounts :D  Take a deep breath man. take time to read other posts and think about it instead of knee jerk reactions

     

    anyhow :D 

     

    cheers

    Breathing deeply now. 😂 

     

    Hey just doing my part for this thread until Bills trade Davis for DHop straight up. 

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  9. 13 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

    Mahomes misses throws all the time. Folks don't remark upon it when your team ultimately wins. I do agree that Allen needs to take the small stuff. He did that impressively in the perfect game against the Pats* and was playing as well as a qb can play in the 13 seconds fiasco. What happened after that? Daboll left for the Giants' job. Dorsey was hired to maintain continuity, but inevitably, there were significant differences. Dorsey may grow into a top OC. He's not there yet. Dorsey does not blend the running game and the passing offense into a cohesive attack. The calls are too random, the RZ offense is very predictable, and Dorsey does not sufficiently make use of pass catching rbs or Knox in general. However much that was dictated by Allen's injury and a bad oline, I don't know, but he needs to improve.

     

    Josh Allen does also need to make the whole field dangerous by utilizing short passes and targeting Knox more often when he is open. Allen is not elusive in the way that Mahomes is elusive. Mahomes is like a snake, slippery and annoying. Allen is a bull with surprising speed and athleticism.

    Yes! Thank you good Dr! This is what I’m saying. Dorsey clearly has to improve as a playcaller. When Allen start using the short stuffs in tandem with the long shots I think this team would be on a whole new level. Here’s hoping that next year we’ll see it more consistently.

     

    I guess I’m still pissed about the Bengals game. More upset than the 13sec game.

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  10. 2 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said:

    Sir, I have read all your replies so far with this new account... Did you make a new account just to go out and annoy the top writers are on these boards, or did you make an account to try and understand and keep an open minded... cause It seems to me your leading the line of not being open minded on topics. and to people with new accounts on these boards.. you can lose credibility really fast..

     

    Now All that being said. I see your point where just because you see what you feel is not a good product on the field does not mean anything to how others feel about our current situation.

     

    Anyhow Best of luck mate

    I thought I was engaging with other fans of the team I root for. Is this not the place to do that? Having a different pov and being critical of the team and its players would lose credibility?

     

    Appreciate you reading my posts. 

  11. 3 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

    Allen isn't supposed to be elite, he is Elite.

     

    Allen does elevate his team.  The Bills would be a 5 - 7 win team fighting to avoid last place in the AFC East without him.

     

    Allen has played very well in the playoffs.  He is more then "good enough" to lead Buffalo to the Super Bowl.  But all you have to do is take a look at the teams that have played in the last 3 SB's to see just how deficient Allen's supporting offensive cast is versus those teams.

     

    I'm sorry but you don't sound like a Bills fan to me.  Sure there are legitimate criticisms of Allen's game and he could improve certain aspects of it.  But your persistent passive/aggressive attacks on Allen, laying almost all the blame on the guy makes me wonder whether you really are a Bills fan.

     

     

     

     

    I know he is elite. By holding him to a higher standard I’m treating him more of an elite qb than most here who just want to coddle and give him passes. Of course he’s good enough to lead the Bills to a superbowl. I’ve said this multiple times. The line needs to be better. I argue that his receiver corp, including Knox, is very good. He needs to maximize them.

     

    Just he because I hold my elite qb accountable doesn’t mean I’m not rooting for him and the team. I’m not blinded by fandom so much that I can’t see reality. And reality is this team has underperformed and there’s blame across the board. 

  12. 3 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

    The Chiefs two Offensive Tackles last season were better as a tandem then the Bills two tackles and it wasn't even close.  The only reason the Chiefs didn't resign their guys was that they had gotten to expensive.  In fact the Chiefs tried to resign Brown but there was no way they could afford to pay him what the Bengals did.

     

    Also, pressure up the middle is far worse then pressure around the end for QB's like Mahomes & Allen.  The number of times in the Bengal's game that Allen was under duress almost immediately on the interior of the O line was ridiculous. That pressure had a huge impact on Allen's game.

     

     

     

     

    You realized they signed Brown’s replacement for more money right? They let him walk because he thought he was better than he is and the market told him nah.

     

    Completely agree with you on interior pressure. Hoping they can draft/sign a couple more ol cuz I’m not sure what they’ve done so far is enough. 

    2 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

     

    Yeah I figured you would miss the point. See ya.

    Like the point made about bad receivers being household names?

     

    yeah see ya

  13. 9 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

     

    Saffold was beat off the snap and Allen's arm was getting hit as he threw it. You're being unrealistic.

    I don’t think it’s unrealistic to expect a supposedly elite qb to make plays in tough conditions to advance his team.

     

    Of course they have to surround Allen with talent. But everyone keeps going on and on about getting elite positions all over the place. Allen is supposed to be elite. Elite qb’s elevate their teams. Not the other way around. He doesn’t need the whole team to be superior to win a superbowl. He’s not Trent Dilfer.

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  14. 1 hour ago, CincyBillsFan said:

    Yes they were but Kelce, the best TE to ever play the game, was still on the field as was the Chiefs much superior offensive line.  Mahomes also had a better RB duo in that game then Allen had.  Oh and did you forget who designed the offensive game plan and called the plays for the Chiefs? I like Dorsey but he ain't no Andy Reid.

     

    Allen has had multiple spectacular games at QB and the Bills still haven't gotten to the Super Bowl with him.  It's clear that there is only so far even an elite QB can take a team.  Just ask Dan Marrino.

     

     

     

     

    I’m pretty sure you’d agree that Kelce is a lot easier to defend when most of the receivers are out. Yet their qb can get it done with whoever is left on the field.

     

    Here we are asking Davis to step up as a #2 to help Allen when him and Diggs are a much more dynamic combo than what KC has. I agree that Allen needs more help with a better Oline. He can also help the team more by taking short stuffs. Being methodical. Not get flustered and frustrated when things don’t go well. Just find a way. I’ve seen another qb with 13sec not looked panic whatsoever. Just went out and find a way. These are what I’m hoping Allen can improve on next year. 

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  15. 2 hours ago, SCBills said:


    They hit on Chris Jones.  Their defense revolves around him.  Even so, they are typically a middling defense because they don’t invest heavily .. Spags is just a good DC that gets them playing their best down the stretch of the season. 

    They also hit on Nick Bolton and Willie Gay at LBs. Sneed and Mcduffie at CBs. Thornhill and Cook at safeties. I think they hit on quite a bit. That’s why I’m puzzled as to how McD can’t do this being a defensive guru.

    1 minute ago, HappyDays said:

     

     

    Do you really not see the irony of these statements?

    Did you not see how I pointed out Mahomes evades pressure and Allen should too? On that throw he was getting pressured from the left side but still should be able to make the throw. I thought we all agree he’s elite? Does he need everything to be perfect to make a throw? Elite qbs make plays in the face of adversities. 

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  16. 2 hours ago, papazoid said:

    are you kidding me....look how KC values Oline compared to Bills   

     

    3 legit All Pro's best in league // not the 10th alternate bullchit  to pro bowl like bills

     

    you put that in front of Josh Allen and he would be the undisputed best QB in league

     

    TE - Travis Kelce (#1) All Pro // Knox #20

    LT - Orlando Brown Jr (#10)  4x Pro Bowl  //  we have dawkins (#24) alternate

    LG - Joe Thuney (#2 ) All Pro //  we dont have a guard in the top 40

    C - Creed Humphrey (#1) All Pro  //  morse #23 alternate

    RG - Trey Smith (#12)   //  we dont have a guard in the top 40

    RT - Andrew Wylie (nothing special and they let him go) // we have Spencer Brown ranked #73 

     

     

     

     

     

    You’re giving way too much credit to their tackles. Especially OBJ. Mahomes made them look better by being so evasive. Their 3 interior guys are legit tho. All about drafting and developing the right guys. Bills are so behind in this area. 

  17. 2 hours ago, Dr. Who said:

    Even then, Mahomes has a superior oline and Andy Reid. And the Chiefs do get timely calls. They are now that team the way it used to be the Pats*. This is a combination of favored status as a marquee franchise with a superlative qb and coach and zebra incompetency. Allen is asked to play superhuman for the Bills to win and as the stakes are ratcheted up, the weight of that ask increases exponentially. I don't grant your premise. Bills have a porous oline, Ken Dorsey on a learning curve and unproven, along with a defensive-minded coaching staff that routinely falls flat in the postseason synchronous with an era where the league is set up for offense to win championships.

    Their line is great in the interior. Their tackles are meh. Evidence by both not resigned this offseason. Mahomes style of play mask a lot of the tackles mistakes. He seems to have a sixth sense of where pressure is coming from and evades it.

     

    Allen is just as mobile if not more. He can improve on getting a better feel for pressure in the pocket to evade. While Dorsey does need to improve next year with play calling Allen has to shoulder some of the offensive inefficiency blame. There were guys underneath all season that were missed and drives stalled. Including the Bengals game. That has to change. If Allen hit Diggs, who was wide open, on that first drive in the Bengals game it may have turned out differently. An elite qb cannot miss that in a playoff game. It’s not all on Dorsey. 

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  18. 2 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

    In the Bengals Chiefs game Mahomes was kinda average as well. The difference is his defense only allowed the Bengals 20 total points. 
    The three times the Bills were within one score in the Bengals game 7-0, 14-7, 17-10 the defense gave up a score on the very next possession. 

    Cause as Greg Cosell and Chris Simms have consistently pointed out he’s asked to do more than any qb they’ve ever seen cause the GM and Coach have a bug for being defense first people.  

    Wasn’t KC down to 1 starting WR in the championship game? Mahomes was throwing to ST guys while hobbled and still found a way to win? I wish Allen could be average like that. Bills probably have a superbowl by now if that’s the case. 

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