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  1. 12 hours ago, TBBills Fan said:

     

     

    I hope the media and everyone "tempers their expectations".  It was a loonnng and weird season last year to be sure, but I believe the Bills being anointed Champs all year didnt do us any favors.  That underdog mentality can bring out the in ya

    Especially when the Bills hasn’t earned that lofty expectation last year. It was very annoying and in the end the team ultimately crumbled under pressure. Hope it was a lesson for all not to be hyped by headlines. Let your accomplishments on the field dictate expectations. 

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  2. 14 hours ago, BringBackFergy said:

    Then why the F#*! does Andy Reid have a monstrous laminated poster in his hand for the past four years. Eric Bienemie was OC in name only. Every Chiefs player has confirmed Andy was calling plays. You’re wayyyy off.

    I watch a lot of Chiefs games and I can say without a doubt that laminated poster is a burgers menu! He has one (or 5) delivered after every game.

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  3. 2 hours ago, Airseven said:


    At least he made a Super Bowl.

    So can Allen. And he’d definitely jump on his own fumbles. 


    This is great that he’s realizing what he needs to do to have a long career. Hope he can do it because it’s tough going against your instinct. His is always looking for contact because he’s a big physical guy. 

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  4. 1 hour ago, Billl said:

    I don’t have any inside information, but I don’t think the Chiefs plan to move Chris Jones to QB, WR, or TE, so that would by my guess as to why he didn’t show up to the workout for QBs, WRs, and TEs.

    Hey what’s up with Mahomes cheating down there in Texas? Working out with draft prospects? 

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  5. 1 hour ago, Fan in Chicago said:

    I dont know if Allen has it in him to manage Diggs - either threw off-field words or on-field chatter. For all the good that Allen does on the field, I rarely see him consoling an O player for messing up on a play, egging on the OL for poor protection or having words with divas like Diggs to calm him down. I would have liked to see some more interactivity of Allen with his supporting cast because he has earned the right to give them a talking-to. 

    You’re so right. This has been my observation as well. I don’t think that’s how Allen is built. Nothing bad about it. But I do wish he’s more involved that way with his teammates.

     

    Everyone should be able to see that Diggs is a diva. Great WRs usually are. When things are going well he’s the greatest teammate. When things aren’t he’ll lash out because he ‘wants to win’.  It is what it is. Also not a big deal that he’s not here for the first ota. 

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  6. 1 hour ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

    Yes, Mahomes is the best at the moment. I don’t think that’s even up for debate. Allen was supposed to be a project QB and the fact he broke Marino’s record is mind blowing considering he didn’t really put it all together until his 3rd year. 
     

    On track with Rivers?! Those Chargers teams were Fing STACKED w/ HOF talent on every side of the ball. I actually had to go back and check out their mid 2000s roster. It is even better than I remember. Imagine if Buffalo had a Tomlinson/ Sproles/Michael Turner trio, Antonio Gates, Vincent Jackson, Keenan McCardell as their #2, prime Shawn Merriman as their pass rusher, the list goes on & on. Rivers is Jim Kelly if you ordered him on Wish. They are not even in the same stratosphere as far as the actual talent of the position. Didn’t Allen beat him in the playoffs? 

    Yeah Allen with those Chargers squads in the mid 2000s would be devastating for the league! Allen did beat Rivers his final year in the league. Sent him to retirement. 😂 

     

    You’re right of course. Allen is a lot more talented. I am confident he will get at least 1 Superbowl. Just a matter of time. 

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  7. 2 hours ago, CincyBillsFan said:

    Real Bill's fans, no matter how painful it was on each of those losing SB Sunday's, relish and value the experience that those amazing SB teams brought us.  I suspect that the Bills going to FOUR straight Super Bowls will never be repeated. 

     

    And real Bill's fans are very grateful that Allen is our QB.  That doesn't mean we don't think he can't get better, he can. But the default starting point with Allen is gratitude to the football gods that he landed in Buffalo. Because real Bills fans lived through a 2 decade QB purgatory so we know what bad quarterbacking looks like.  Allen isn't just a breadth of fresh air he's a freaking hurricane.

     

    Your critiques of Allen are at best silly and at worst mean spirited.  What I don't get is do you actually enjoy messing with another fan base?  It just seems so small minded.

     

     

     

     

     

    First off I never said I don’t want Allen to be the Bills qb. I firmly believe he is the perfect qb for this team. To me he is 2nd best in the league behind you know who. He’s better than the other qb you admire in Burrow. Give Allen those 3 #1 receivers Burrow has and he’d probably get 50 TDs every season.

     

    Yeah the team has suffered through a long period of crap qb’s and Allen has lifted us out of that. Now standards and expectations are raised because of it. To reach the ultimate goal Allen has to lead this team there. He won’t be able to do that if he can’t overcome his mistakes. I don’t think it’s silly to criticize a qb for this. You apparently think it’s silly to criticize at all. What happens next year if this team gets bounced again? Who will the blame fall on? It can’t always be everyone else. Listen it’s great that the Bills are relevant again after many years in the dark. But goals have risen and fans should not be satisfied with good regular seasons then fall flat when it matters most. 
     

    Now let’s address your soapbox fandom rant. So to be a real fan one has to react to team’s accomplishments or shortcomings the exact way you’d like them to. Otherwise they’re not real fans. Can’t possibly be. Well it’s a good thing you’re not the arbiter of what a real fan should be.

     

    The last part you wrote was a little puzzling to me. Are you saying that I’m here ‘messing with another fanbase’? Well for once we do agree on something. That WOULD be very ‘small minded’ if someone were to do that. Not to mention a lot of wasted time. Geez.

     

    No that’s not my case. I was very frustrated with the 2nd half of this season that culminated in the debacle that was the Cincy game. So that was when I joined the fray to vent my frustrations with this team, Allen included. Sorry if that ruffles your faithful feathers. 

  8. 5 hours ago, colin said:

     

    ok, so what was your prior account, air seven, one of the other trolls?

     

    the bills wr class was so great we brought in brown and bease off the couch, now i know you have a crack habit!

     

    you also just context switching here, like TE and RB and OL (representing the majority of the players on the field on nearly all offensive snaps) don't count.

     

    i'll stop feeding this troll, lol.

    What’s so outrageous about believing Davis would do well in KC? Their wr room is filled with castoffs #2-#4 jag’s. Davis’ talent would absolutely shine there.

     

    Is this your go to response when someone offers a different pov? Just dismiss it as trolling because their opinions cannot possibly be right as it differs from yours?

  9. 2 hours ago, CincyBillsFan said:

    You act like the "13 seconds" game against KC was a long time ago. It was one season ago. 

     

    The idea that Allen "single handedly brought the Dolphins back into the game" is ludicrous. The Bills as a team rushed out to a big lead and then got sloppy, including Allen, letting the Dolphins back into the game.  To say Allen would have been the Dolphins "mvp" if they had won the game is laughable.  Sure Allen had 3 TO's but he also had 352 yards passing, 3 passing TD's had another passing TD dropped and a perfectly thrown 55 yard completion dropped. 

     

    Was Jim Kelly an elite QB?  I think the answer is obviously yes but in an AFC championship game at Rich Stadium he and the Bills O were held to no TD's & 3 points. And is Mahomes elite? Because in the SB loss to TB he was held to no TD's and 3 FG's.  I could go on but you get it.

     

    Are you really a Bills fan?  Sure criticizing Allen doesn't preclude someone from being a Bills fan but the degree to which you attack Allen is over the top and there's no way a real fan throws the stuff out that you do.

     

    And for the record what you're posting is not holding Allen accountable.  It's nitpicking the guy to death.  And while you do this you  ignore the reality that without him at QB the Bills are not even a 500 team let alone a yearly division winner and playoff team.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    His turnovers led to Mia points and was the catalyst for them coming back. How would you characterize it? 🤷

     

    You’re comparing Allen’s performance in the Cincy game to Mahomes 2nd SB game where he lost most of his Oline and playing through turf toe? Again 2nd SB game. Where he already won the first. And now have added a 3rd SB appearance and 2nd ring. I think most would say he’d get a pass.

     

    How are my critiques of Allen nitpicking and over the top? I’ve said he panicks in certain situations that have led to mistakes and turnovers. I’ve said he needed to play with more poise in big moments and not get flustered. I’ve said he doesn’t see the whole field sometimes and not take what defenses give him. All these elite qb’s have tremendous physical gifts and abilities. What separates them is mostly between the ears. Maybe if you remove those homer glasses you’d see these are fair assessments. 

     

    And there you go again. Accusing people of not being real fans because they have the audacity to question the qb. He has done so much. We should be grateful because without him we’d win 8 games at most. Yada yada. 

     

    Sometimes I do wish I’m not a real fan. It would erased at minimum four very painful experiences from the 90s. 😂

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  10. 2 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

    Allen is not just “very good.” He will be a HOFer when it’s all said & done regardless of a ring. Also, It takes a team to win a championship along w/ good coaching, drafting, LUCK, etc. it’s totally unfair to put it all on the QB. KC has simply been better in all those those other facets. Put Allen on those teams and I’m sure he would have at least 1 ring. I could care less about MVP awards and other accolades. How has that fared for Lamar Jackson and countless other MVPs/Heisman winners? 

    I’m only bringing up the accolades because you questioned Mahomes having the most accomplished start to a career for the position. It isn’t even debatable at this point.

     

    Allen is very talented but hof will remain to be seen without a Lombardi. Right now he’s on the Phillip Rivers career track. 

  11. 1 hour ago, CincyBillsFan said:

    I don't care what other people think, particularly other teams fans. I'm confident that any fan with a brain when looking at Allen's performance in the 2021 season playoffs are awe struck. 

     

    And if I'm going to assign blame for the Bills exits from the playoffs the last 3seasons Allen would be dead last on any such list. The real question is why do you and other Bills "fans" insist that Allen is playing a big role in these season ending losses? 

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Allen was great during the 13 sec game…in a losing effort. That game was 2 seasons ago now. He hasn’t played up to that level in postseason since. This past wc playoff he single-handedly brought the Dolphins back into the game with his turnovers. If the Dolphins won that game he could’ve been mvp for them. Bills should’ve won going away. In the Cincy game he was really disappointing. You can’t score 10pts in the playoffs as an elite qb. You just can’t. There were plays to be made if you watch the game over. He just didn’t make them.

     

    Yes, I and a minority of others, hold him accountable as much as the rest of the team. You seem to think the only way to be real fans is to say he can do no wrong and is the most talented ever. 

     

     

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  12. 2 hours ago, colin said:

     

    no, silly!  i meant what i wrote!

     

    it's pretty clear he's got a much better team around him, especially on O, and he's gone down a few times and his back up nobody QB has gotten production.  

     

    why are you working so hard to put words in my mouth?  such a cheeky lil rascal!

    I think we have very different definitions of working hard. 😂 

     

    Bills overall receiving corp was better than Chiefs this past season. It’s not like Bills are devoid of talent. Davis would be WR1 in KC right now. 

    1 hour ago, T master said:

     

    Dam ya'll are pretty harsh ! I started the post with I'm ecstatic that we have Josh but i guess y'all either forgot to read that part or something

     

    It was just one of those I WONDER type of posts & y'all act like the entire post was like i was slamming Josh saying he was a POS type of QB or something like he's no better than Peterman was .

     

    Some people got it one said that if Josh was with the staff that the chiefs have they'd be even better than they are now especially with Andy Reid leading the way then there are those that think i am cusifying Josh 

     

    I think y'all are a bit sensitive or something dam ...

    You did the unthinkable for most on this board. Implying, hinting, thinking (as fleeting as it may be) that Mahomes might have done better for the Bills if he was drafted by the Bills. Triggered topic around here for sure. 😅

  13. 49 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

    Allen keeps losing?  Are you still trying to tie "13 seconds" to Allen? 

    Do you think when people look at results of each year’s playoffs that they’d dig into the minutiae of all the games and look for excuses? Or do they simply form narratives based on results of those games. Whatever your personal reasoning is, and we all have them, Bills have lost in the playoffs. Knocked out every January. The qb gets a big portion of the credit when a team does well so conversely the qb also takes majority of the blame. That’s why they get paid the big bucks.

     

    Some of you can’t or won’t tie Allen to the Bills when critiquing the team. He is a big part of this team. Its leader. When goals aren’t met leaders get blamed. He is very talented but far from a finished product. He has to improve along with the team to get to the next level. 

  14. 20 minutes ago, colin said:

    the simplest way to look at an allen vs mahomes comparison is see what happened in the two games in the playoffs recently where mahomes went down.

     

    vs the browns in 2021 (post 2020 season, we got kinda trucked by KC at KC in that playoffs) mahomes goes down and his back up, a career back up, just held the team together well enough to win, and the kc d stepped up too.

     

    vz jax in the most recent play offs, same back up no body qb comes in and kc just marches down the field w small play after small play setting up a slam dunk red zone score from inside the 5 or 10.

     

    if you put that back up qb on the bills for one drive in a playoff game, he's getting sacked, fumbling, and possibly injured.  our roster at that point of both of those years was pure cheeks compared to KCs, especially on O.  our clown squad on OL couldn't sustain a double digit play drive without any penalties killing it, nor avoid big protection mistakes over and over.  our "weapons" were ball dropper davis, diggs who is great but would just be double covered, and knox.

     

    in 2021 when the OL for KC got hurt to the point where they were fielding the same kinda trash we had in either of those years, mahomes couldn't make the plays that josh makes happen and looked lost.

    So you’re saying Henne could’ve won those Superbowls for KC? As for Mahomes looking lost after his OL got hurt…was this the season they thrashed us in the AFCCG (‘20-‘21) or the season he broke all Bills fans hearts in 13 sec (‘21-‘22)? Cuz he didn’t looked very lost in those games. He did struggled in the Superbowl against TB when 4 starting linemen were out. I guess that’s what you meant?

  15. 30 minutes ago, chongli said:

     

    Buffalo won two AFL championships. What more could they do? Sure, I would have preferred if the two leagues played, but it's an imperfect world. And don't give me this "more established" stuff. Favorites don't always win. As I said, the Jets, from the AFL, beat the NFL in SB III, after Green Bay won the first two. The Bills, AFL champs in 1965 would have faced Green Bay in the Super Bowl, but it didn't begin until the next year. We'll never know. 

     

    Do you give the Lakers full faith for winning their bubble championship, or put an asterisk next to Roger Maris's homerun mark? It amazes me some don't give Buffalo credit for being the best in one season. Either that or many don't know Buffalo's history.

    It’s hard to give credit when the competition was not complete. When I said the NFL was more established I wasn’t implying that the NFL team would win if they’d played. I was implying there were more talent on that side as it was more established. So you can’t expect most Bills fans to be comforted by those distant championships from a bygone era when the Bills keep getting knocked out every January. That’s why Romo’s ill advised moniker ‘Mr. January’ for Allen during the WC around was very cringey. Takes on a whole different unintended meaning when you keep losing. 

     

    But if you personally can find solace in those old championships then more power to ya! 👍

     

     

     

     

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  16. 8 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

    Championships fine.Best statistical start? Didn’t Allen just surpass Marino for most TDs in a players first 5 seasons? 

    Yeah sure. That’s the same hollow record as the Herbert one with best stats first 2 yrs starting blah blah. Both are possible because of a technicality. Which, of course, was Mahomes sitting out his first year. If you took Mahomes’ 1st 5 Starting years it’s not even close. There’s a reason he has won 2 league MVPs and our guy hasn’t right?

     

    But that should not be the focus for Bills fans. Mahomes is great for KC. Awesome. Allen is very good as well. Let’s see if he can take that next step and win a 🏆 

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  17. 10 hours ago, chongli said:

     

    Nope. There were two major football leagues in the 60's: the NFL and the AFL. Both leagues have a right to call their champions world champions, just like before the NCAA football playoffs when the voters voted and there was a split championship (like in 2003, where they AP voted for USC and the coaches' poll had LSU). Oh, and a number of those AFL teams did beat the NFL early on for the SB, like KC in SB IV and the Jets in SB III.

    So let me follow this logic. The NFL and AFL winners had the right to call themselves world champions even though the two didn’t played and the NFL was the more established league. And this means, in your mind, the Bills have two wannabe ‘Superbowls’?

     

    Man I hope you don’t bring this line of thinking when discussing Bills football with others in person. As for me there’s no replacing the real thing no matter how much twisted logic gets applied. I want an actual Superbowl with a Lombardi Trophy 🏆 

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  18. 58 minutes ago, chongli said:

     

    It's confidence. And the Bills already have two world championships, but the AFL title game back then wasn't called the Super Bowl. Buffalo got theirs in the 1964 and 1965, and KC got theirs in 1969 and 1970, 2019, and 2022 (the latter three being SB's). But SB or world championship, it's just a name. They have 4, we have 2.

    Really??? You’re counting AFL titles as equal to Superbowls? That’s like touting a USFL or XFL championship if those leagues happen to merge with the NFL at some point in the future. C’mon man. That’s straight crazy talk. Maybe that’s where your misplaced confidence is coming from.

     

    I don’t have much confidence that they could win multiple championships. I just hope that Allen and the team can learn from their mistakes and able to get it done ONE year. Probably in a year that KC is down. I mean, Mahomes can’t be in every AFCCG can he? 

  19. 2 hours ago, chongli said:

    I'll take Josh over Mahommes any day. In the end, we'll see who has more SB rings.

    Is this hubris, delusional, or sarcasm?

     

    Most fans that follow the Bills just hope (wish) for ONE Superbowl win just to know what that feeling is like. For a franchise that hasn’t won a Superbowl ever don’t you think it’s unrealistic to expect multiple? Just because your bias for Allen won’t allow for the possibility of Mahomes being better? 

     

    Mahomes can be the best right now or the best ever as long as the Bills get one. It isn’t a competition between Mahomes vs Allen. At least it shouldn’t be. It’s a team sport where success is measured by Superbowl wins. Let’s get that one. Bills fans deserve this. 

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  20. I’ve thought about this as well. Mahomes has had the best start of any qb in the history of the league in terms of championships and individual records. With or without Reid he was going to be elite and taken any team to contention and probably a title. So of course Bills fans will wonder what if. But I truly think even if the Bills didn’t make that trade they wouldn’t have taken Mahomes at 10. They didn’t have the coaching foresight to see the talent in him. Not many did otherwise he’d went #1.

     

     

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