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1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said:
So yeah, stay classy Bills Mafia.
That ship had sailed.-
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27 minutes ago, K-9 said:
I was gonna say something similar but then I realized that context seldom matters to some people.
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53 minutes ago, TheWeatherMan said:
Because the best QB in the NFL is no longer inflating their stats?
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1 hour ago, dave mcbride said:
I hear you, but the Bills believe in it so much that they apparently won't draft a CB whose arms are shorter than 31".
Length matters!
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7 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:
Who was old and in decline last year just to still win the SB again.
Because the engine is Mahomes not any receiver. Looking forward to see Allen be the same way this season.-
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1 hour ago, nucci said:
professional football players playing catch....incredible to watch
Professional football players making time in the offseason to get together without any obligations truly is incredible. -
20 minutes ago, transient said:
Who's Allen going to throw to?
Curtis Samuel? Shakir? Kincaid? -
1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:
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This offseason stuff is catching on. Wonder when it’ll make its way to Buffalo? -
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1 hour ago, FLFan said:
I had a different take on his on field demonstration after the KC game. I viewed it at the time as trying to draw attention to himself. Gabe was the potential hero of that game let’s not forget, not Diggs. That’s why he was demonstrating on the field. Me, me me.
Wrong game. But I agree with your take about the ‘look at me’ moment.-
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27 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:
Mahomes and his wrs were out of sync pretty much all season weren’t they lol I think this chiefs wrs season is pretty strong evidence that maybe offseason camps is too much football
to use the bills as an example, someone like Gabe Davis played on the team for years and was still consistently on the wrong page. Idk how much an unofficial throw the ball around type get together could’ve possibly helped 😂
then you’ve got your Stefon Diggs types that are closer to hitting a mental wall if they’re overworked and it can be a negative thing.
I do think josh did extra work with Kincaid last offseason
Oh completely agree that this extra work may or may not help certain guys. While KC receivers were struggling last season I now see why Mahomes wouldn’t criticize them. They’re showing up for extra work to support him in the offseason so if anything it strengthens the bond of loyalty they have for each other. They ended winning the Superbowl so who’s to say their method didn’t work.
What’s also interesting is Mahomes working out with potential draft prospects during these sessions. It’s like test driving a car for a few weeks. That’s how they ended up with Rashee Rice last year.
Andy Reid has also said that their offseason Phase 1 plan gets implemented by Mahomes during this time. So when they officially meet for OTAs they’re ahead of the curve. I can see more and more QBs and teams will start doing this exercise more formally like Mahomes has. It’s a copy cat league and you can’t argue their success.
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The comments Allen made after that game about ‘Same ***** different day’ feels different after this revelation.
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17 minutes ago, Meatloaf63 said:
Josh’s biggest problem is not recognizing what’s given to him and taking it instead of forcing it further up the field. If he could figure this out we would be almost unstoppable.
Absolutely! Teams are playing to his tendencies for the deep shots. Hopefully he can improve on that (taking what’s there) next season.-
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Just now, BillsFan130 said:
Ahh using the "Mahomes is getting better cause his team is winning SBs argument".
It was only a matter of time before someone used that lazy argument.
I didn't know Mahomes and Josh played individual sports. I thought football was a 53 man team game, but what do I know.
They don’t play individual sports but they are responsible for a large portion of their teams’ success. Just as all elite QBs. That’s why they’re paid as such. I brought this up in an earlier post but in your haste to rebut you missed it.Everyone has an opinion so you’re entitled to yours.
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5 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:
But there's just nothing to support your argument that Mahomes is getting better.
Actual stats. Advanced stats. Nothing.
All great QBs have great stats buddy lol. It would be foolish not to factor in stats.
Mahomes actual stats are way worse. And his advanced stats are worse since 2018.
So I really don't know what you wanna argue- If you want straw at things like "Toney caused an INT or two " compared to all data im saying here, that's a poor hill to die on and you have your mind made up so not much saying more
Wait. You’re saying his stats are bad now? You’re saying the best qb in the league has regressed since his debut when during that time has led his team to 4 Superbowls and winning 3 of them? Oh man I wish Allen could regress in such a fashion for the Bills. Let’s agree to disagree and move on because it’s getting to absurd territory. -
1 minute ago, BillsFan130 said:
He had more turnovers last year compared to the previous great ones.
So I am not sure that would fit the "he's taking what the defence is giving him" narrative.
If you watch their games you’d see that Kadarius Toney alone was responsible for a few of those. Just strictly looking at stats to determine if a qb has improved is foolhardy. Especially a qb that has taken his team to back-to-back Superbowls. -
1 minute ago, BillsFan130 said:
I'm not denying Mahomes isn't great, that's not what I'm saying.
But I am saying Mahomes isn't "better" now than a few years ago when he was winning MVPs and even SBs
That’s what I meant with my post. Mahomes’ improvements has been in those mental areas of being a qb. Like that boneheaded play he made in the ‘21 AFCCG before the half. That was him not recognizing game situations. He learned from that.His stats that first year was unbelievable. But defenses have adjusted to his game and took those away. Not to mention he lost a lot of the receivers on the end of those plays. He struggled briefly against the adjustments and now have figured how to beat those defenses.
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5 hours ago, UKBillFan said:
You're just assuming, as is everyone in the thread, that Josh can do better. That he isn't at his peak. If he is, he's still more than good enough to win the Super Bowl. The question is are the players and coaching around him.
Physically he’s as talented as anyone. Where he’s behind is the mental part of being a qb. Processing speed. Getting the ball to the right place depending on game situations.You don’t think he can improve in this area of his game? Right now him and the team have hit a ceiling. The roster has been turned over to get younger and hopefully break that ceiling. Whether they can do that will depend in large part by Allen. Hopefully he’s up to the challenge.
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1 hour ago, BillsFan130 said:
I definitely agree with most of that, but I'm not sure how you can say he's improved overall.
I am not saying he got worse as he set the bar ridiculously high.
But improved from His MVP seasons? No way IMO.
He had 27 TDs last season. Teams play Josh the same they play Mahomes for the most part and Josh had 44
Mahomes is much better at taking what defenses give him. Recognizing how defenses are playing him and getting the ball to the right receiver against those defenses. He’s also much better at knowing game situations and what it takes to win as opposed to stats accumulation. That’s a large reason why KC is winning SB’s. It’s a team game but the QB holds the biggest key. Your team is not winning multiple SB’s if your QB is not operating at this mental level of the game.-
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49 minutes ago, UKBillFan said:
So what are you saying the Bills should do to push through? Trade Josh?
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6 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:
I've been adamant he will be all world by 30 or 31.. he will have 60 passing touchdowns
I've said it here before and I'll throw it out again
Josh Allen at age 31 season will have 60 touchdowns
He has never thrown for 40 TDs in is career but you think he’ll have 60 four years from now? Maybe if he’s the type of personality that dedicates himself to being the best ever he might have chance. At the rate he’s going he has a better chance to get his golf index down to 2 by age 31 than throwing for 60 TDs.1 hour ago, Kaenon said:As long as we have Josh, we're fine.
Yes. We’ll be fine winning the division and getting knocked out in the playoffs. The Bears, Falcons, Colts would love to be us. -
10 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:
Who needs facts and stats when you can 'just watch'?
Mahomes 2018 season is on a very short list for best season by any QB in NFL history.
The fact (yes, fact) that he hasn't improved on that season doesn't mean that he's lazy in the offseason or doesn't watch enough film.
It just means he set the bar so high it's almost impossible to improve on it.
Josh's play has been about the same for 4 years in a row now. When you're one of the 3 best QBs in the league playing about the same not improving is still a VERY GOOD thing. Arguing otherwise and trying to present that as proof that Josh doesn't put in the off-field work is just silly.
By this logic who needs to watch games when you can just look at stats. This is a very nutty argument you’re making. Especially for the qb position.Both guys are better than their earlier selves.
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On 4/5/2024 at 1:18 PM, Fan in San Diego said:
Is it February yet?
Looking forward to next offseason already? -
1 hour ago, Billy Claude said:
Allen specifically said he doesn't want to watch "too much" film. I am sure Kyler Murray feels the same way.
That doesn’t mean he won’t watch any film. Can’t compare that to Kyler who has it written in his contract to study.
Does Josh Allen still work as hard in the offseason?
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This was what I took from Davis’ comment as well. Whatever throwing sessions they did was when they were back in Buffalo.
Your thread posed a legitimate question. It’s not calling Allen lazy or being slanderous towards him. People are taking it the wrong way.
It’s also debatable how much it would help Allen personally to do the things other QBs do. He knows best what’s good for him. This is a big season coming up. He needs to solve that KC problem in the playoffs and now would have to do with new receivers. Yeah I’d like to see him get together to Samuels for instance. There’s still plenty of time before OTAs so maybe they’d still do it.