Joe Ferguson forever

No doubt. Historically, that approach hasn’t benefited the middle, much less the bottom. But they’ll smile through the disappointment.

Which is why we need the fbi! Trump isn’t proposing stopping promising foreign students a place. He promised green cards should they graduate. Are you unfamiliar with his policy here?

I’m with the no ketchup, medium rare, salt and pepper crowd…what a silly analogy. This is a fundamental rift. It’s racists vs semi decent R’s

Nah. It cuts to the ideological core.

Dude, if my butthurts after tomorrow it will be from sunburn. I didn't vote for a guy pretending to be against immigrants who actually sees them as vital. We agree on something! But he won the votes of lots of people he wouldn't let in if they were foreigners. So revel in that.

Really? Why so many of your blogger heroes against this? Ask Levi....

If you exclude Donald trump...https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2024/11/10/past-h-1b-visa-policies-predict-donald-trumps- immigration-policy/ The Trump administration published a restrictive H-1B rule in 2020. A judge blocked the rule for violating the Administrative Procedure Act. Trump officials attempted to publish part of the rule again before leaving office but ran out of time. The rule included numerous provisions to prevent companies from employing foreign-born scientists and engineers, such as changing who and what positions could qualify for an H-1B specialty occupation.

Great news! Good start. You've been played MAGAs...

So three parties: MAGA, R and D? I'm good with that. If you r correct, Stephen Miller should be shown the door early. I don't see that happening.

Great. Did they build any condos or apartments in an area screaming for housing? Cuz on the way to the mini mart that sells "ne Ethanol" gasoline for mowers, I keep seeing these condos go up in a few short months and I've yet to see a white face doing the work.

link? Here's mine: https://www.progressiverailroading.com/passenger_rail/news/Denver-RTD-selects-Washington-as-next-GMCEO--22199 and what qualifications does Rachael Levine lack?

He withdrew and was treated with the same contempt that trump's unqualified nominees will be by the Dems. Keep in mind that Washington was CEO of Denver Airport. So in what way is Levine unqualified to be Asst sec for Health?

This person is a real clown. Harvard, Tulane, Mt Sinai in Manhattan. Not qualified at all... Your opinion has nothing to do with her being transgender: Rachel Leland Levine (/ləˈviːn/ lə-VEEN; born 28 October 1957)[1] is an American pediatrician who has served as the United States Assistant Secretary for Health since 26 March 2021.[2] She is also an admiral in the United States Public Health Service Commissioned Corps. Levine is a professor of pediatrics and psychiatry at the Penn State College of Medicine, and previously served as the Pennsylvania physician general from 2015 to 2017 and as secretary of the Pennsylvania Department of Health from 2017 to 2021.[3] Levine is one of only a few openly transgender government officials in the United States,[4] and is the first to hold an office that requires Senate confirmation.[5][6] On 19 October 2021, Levine became the first openly transgender four-star officer in the nation's eight uniformed services.[7] So for H1B, someone with these qualifications should be welcomed except if they're trans?

"Elites" in other words. Except many aren't. And many buy into bucking any authority or convention. Kari Lake and Matt Gaetz were floated just to cause chaos. Gaetz has already weighed in against H1B, not that it will make a difference. Stephen Miller has as well and he might make a difference. By necessity, some of his cabinet will be made up of populist ideologues. I think abandoning his populist theme too far will cause loss of support for R's.

you mean he won't stick to his populist talking points? shocked! It is common sense except to a majority of MAGAs and right wing influencers as illustrated here. But he can't run again so he may just do what is correct. I'm not confident.

I wouldn't bet on it. The electorate that voted trump in is decidedly less educated than those who voted for Harris. They can't compete globally and they know it. And they hate "elites". The blowback has already begun. I read a ridiculous editorial on Fox attacking Ramaswamy for even considering that our culture isn't superior. Xenophobia is still a MAGA foundation. All for it. Would have been ideal if they had it before the election. What will make us weaker is stopping or severely limiting H1B visas which I think is likely. MAGA is based on populism and this is what the populists want.

No, I'm happy some of the current MGA leaders are speaking the truth. But I agree that they are likely to be pushed aside at the behest of the rank and file. The sad part is that this will lead us to be less globally competitive.

Musk came on an H1B. You still a fan after he called out the lack of top American intellectuals? your eyerolls to his and Vivek's quotes suggest otherwise.

· MAGA is taking a page from Democrats on how to lose elections while feeling good about themselves. Neera Tanden @neeratanden I am an Indian American who was born here and it's crystal clear that the Democratic Party sees me as American and a large part of the base of the Republican Party does not. I hope Indian Americans remember this moment at the next election. They don't see you as one of them. And… Elon Musk @elonmusk Yes. And those contemptible fools must be removed from the Republican Party, root and stem. He should have said this before the election. But the truth would never win for MAGA.

"I agree with @elonmusk and @VivekGRamaswamy about H-1B visas. But I love the rebellion against them because it shows that MAGA is thinking for itself." No, MAGA is thinking about themselves. They know they can't compete with the global best and brightest. So they want to exclude them. Trouble is, you need the best players to win the long game. MAGAs are not them.

congressional elections are 2 years away...the early infighting is encouraging.

Ramaswamy says "deplorable" without actually saying it: “The reason top tech companies often hire foreign-born & first-generation engineers over ‘native’ Americans isn’t because of an innate American IQ deficit,” he wrote. “A key part of it comes down to the c-word: culture. “Our American culture has venerated mediocrity over excellence for way too long. That doesn’t start in college, it starts YOUNG. “A culture that celebrates the prom queen over the math olympiad champ, or the jock over the valedictorian, will not produce the best engineers. ‘Normalcy’ doesn’t cut it in a hyper-competitive global market for technical talent. And if we pretend like it does, we’ll have our asses handed to us by China.” Cue knee jerk backlash from the "working class" but he isn't wrong.

Et tu Britannia? https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/dec/27/centre-right-extremism-the-west-moderates-populist None of this is to be sentimental about the old centre right, which from the 1980s onwards increasingly offered sink-or-swim economics and military adventurism. It is to recognise that democratic norms are no longer in fashion, and the consensus over what is “too extreme” has collapsed. On each side of the Atlantic, mainstream rightwingers – in politics and media – embrace positions they would previously have resisted. From naked bigotry to disinformation to treating opponents as dangerous national threats, the trend is clear. Where will it end? Here, there is no obvious answer, because the borders of the mainstream right are no longer policed. The tragic truth is that the western world may only get this out of its system when confronted with the consequences of such an ideology. A grim reckoning awaits us.

i gave you a third option. you quoted it. both acts are deplorable.

Another false choice. They are both important and both sleazy and dangerous.