Joe Ferguson forever

who would have ever guessed: obfuscation from a MAGA.

nope. he never did and still doesn't. wouldn't it be easier and much more logical to admit he's a criminal? But I'll give you a D+ for effort.

so lay it out for us fully. Was it ole tuck or Hannity that discussed this yesterday?

why don't you just tell us all. you seem to know. better yet, diagram your argument.

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6 - 730 at the lake. bring your own board. Be there or be fat! so far, it's still on.

yes, my spine is strong even if sore. wish it weren't raining for paddle board yoga tonight.

could you be any more obtuse? Good god man, grow a spine.

think whatever you want. just make your case. you don't require my help, do you? this dude has carpal tunnel. I just have a sore back. God they are beautiful and imposing creatures. There are a couple that soar over our house hunting. Occasionally, they get close enough for a decent pic. Have never gotten a great one tho.

you got nothin. make your case or give it up. ah moving the goal posts. I thought you were arguing that because his plans didn't work , he wasn't guilty. Wait, you were.... MAGA's really have their propaganda work cut out for them going forward. But the moronic base will stay loyal regardless.

yes, I'm not actually a hawk. u got me.

is he imagining fake electors? What do you think their purpose was? there was an urban legend about a patient stealing a script pad, writing "one kilo mopheen" on a script and trying to get it filled at a pharmacy. She was arrested. Presumably you argue that she shouldn't have been. Do you?

sure hope you're right. an interesting comment from Barr yesterday was that he's taking money for his defense from poor and middle class people while claiming he's a billionaire, implying that he may not be. "Doc", why do you want his crimes to go unpunished? Why do you want lawlessness? Do you win or at least improve your situation in that scenario? See some opportunities there, "Doc"?

I actually was involved in monitoring it for a short time. levels were low but I saw some 2 headed deer near Balmer rd. interesting commentary although she is, admittedly, a scary broad. he seems attracted to the demonic look. https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2023/08/02/trump-indictment-2020-election-grisham-jack-smith-ebof-vpx.cnn

it's true on it's face. Wait til they call Pence and Barr to testify to it. They've already said it publicly and repeatedly to investigators but not under oath in a nationally televised trial. Even after that you'll cling to this lie. but it is a tactic used by trump. Stephanie Grisham has said that trump often told her that if you repeat a lie enough times it becomes truth.

not in the Capitol while trying to overturn a prez election. how many pages in the fascist handbook are devoted to the art of whataboutism?

because he's not a partisan hack🤣 perhaps he was promised a mid tier propaganda position....

yes. now answer my question.

This was added. wanna make sure you get a chance to answer Do you dream of chaos and authoritarianism? do you win in that scenario? I suppose we both could but at the expense of our souls. Edited just now by redtail hawk

yes. And I don't recall an insurrection, martial law or fake electors. wtf is wrong with you? Do you dream of chaos and authoritarianism? do you win in that scenario? I suppose we both could but at the expense of our souls.

nope. no difference. he lost, knew it and even discussed using martial law to remain. That's not a parliamentary lever, nor is threatening his VP, orchestrating a fake elector scheme, demanding votes be found or encouraging an insurrection. If he had stopped after 60 failed lawsuits and multiple failed recounts, you'd be correct. But he did not. By a long shot.

Really. So his own cabinet members, VP and employees are lying? What would you suppose their motivation to do that is.? Some have lost their careers or even their freedom from prison as a result. As Barr said, trump leaves people in his wake and loyalty is a one way proposition.

just stop...not for lying but for conspiring to overturn a valid election that he was well aware that he lost.

yes, in a Brett Kavanaugh kind of way...with the booze but without the sexual misconduct (i mean there was some but not by me) or the radical right ideology. nobody's perfect. it was a competitive place. the opposite of communism or socialism and that's good, right?

Many of my classmates are now just your average professionals or executives. It's an above average gene pool. So I guess you're correct. But insecurity was never a prevalent attitude among my friends.