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This is a great deal because Purdy was really on a 1 year $1M dollar deal before, so this is really a 6 year $265M deal with $182M guaranteed, which gives him an AAV of $44M. His agent got bamboozled! @DrDawkinstein @transplantbillsfan

Are you convinced Shakir is better than Ladd?

Id rather pay Tyler Shough $6M than Fields $20M

Feels like dirty pool to me. If the guys don’t play well, we’ll just say they aren’t talented. It’s not anything else.

Well then, we got our “talent infusion.” So we should be very good this year in the postseason, right

It’s more because they both are limited athletically QBs that have had outrageous passing stats inflated by a Shanny system and surrounding by elite/HoF level talent, which allows them to get paid as elite QB’s which then causes the team to lose that talent they surrounded them with and that’s the end of the carousel ride.

I’m not saying that talent doesn’t matter more than coaching. What I’m saying is that these teams HAD largely the same talent. This is obvious. Philly had the same DL. They had guys like Nakobe Dean and Nolan Smitn who were high draft picks that were unplayable prior to 2024. Virtually every Philly defender had a better 2024 than 2023. But it wasn’t because of coaching. Okay, sure.

I suppose Darius Slay having a resurgent year and Zach Baun going from a mid tier FA to an All-Pro had nothing to do with coaching either.

4-2 before being benched for the corpse of Russell Wilson is not the flex you think it is for a guy who has been in the league for 5 years.

Well the Chargers lost Palmer now. So is Ladd gonna be a 50-50 outside guy? I’m thinking no.

The 2018 Chiefs had defensive talent. They had guys like Chris Jones, Dee Ford, Justin Houston, Charvarius Ward, Kendall Fuller. Sure they added guys and let some guys walk but they weren’t a defense of no-names. Chris Jones was a star pre-Spags and they still sucked. Adding George Karlaftis wasn’t the difference. No more than adding Greg Rousseau was transformative for our defense. Is your take that the Eagles went form worst to first defensively more because they added a starting CB and a part time CB in the draft instead of completing changing their scheme for the other 12-13 guys who were already on the roster? If so, I think you’re wrong there as well. The talent was already there in Philly and they still sucked in 2023. Mitchell and DeJean are both nice players, but they weren’t more important than Fangio.

He’s actually horrible. His career average is 150 passing yards per game. He’s not on Purdy or Geno or Cousins or Darnold’s level, respectfully. He can’t run an offense or read a defense or play QB at the NFL level. Like I said, your take makes sense if you pick “league average guy making league average money.” Your take does not make sense for a dude who can’t play the position. You may as well say “you are better off paying Peterman $20M.” It’s just wrong.

Fields is the wrong example. Fields is actually awful. If you wanted to say, “I’d rather pay Geno $37M than Purdy $53M,” that’s fine and makes sense. Fields can barely complete a pass. He was worth Mac Jones level compensation last year. He’s horrendous.

The Eagles didn’t implode. They lost in the Super Bowl and the WC round.

McConkey vs Shakir is not a comparison that bodes well for Shakir unfortunately.

I don’t mean it in a negative way. I just think when talking about the Chiefs and Eagles and even Niners, we have to consider that they have changed defensive schemes (and in the case of the Eagles, offensive schemes) at least once if not multiple times in their routes to multiple Superbowls. Now to be fair, it hasn’t always been positive for those teams. The Eagles defense in 2023 was horrific after they lost their coordinator. The Bills hiring Dorsey almost sank 2023. There is for sure potential downside. McDermott is an excellent coach imo and has only gotten better as a Bill. And it sounds like they are bringing in new ideas defensively. But to me, defense is the ultimate “sum of their parts” aspect of football. If you had to rank importance of the Eagles or the Chiefs becoming clutch defenses, the #1 would be coordinators, imo. #2 would be the talent acquisitions and switch outs. Heck, we even saw the same thing with McD. He cut all the Rex weight, gutted the roster, and had the defense playing at a HIGHER level with some good FA adds and draft picks.

is your take that the Chiefs would have had the same postseason success with Sutton as they have with Spags?

Yeah KC Pre-Spags was getting lit up in the postseason and fired their guy. Then they stopped getting lit up. The Bills moved on from Frazier and they kept getting lit up.

KC and Philly also both fired their DCs and changed their defensive schemes as well after their defense got annihilated in the playoffs.

Are you under the impression the team has a new 100M+ liquid in their bank accounts annually?

Awesome post @folz To state the conclusion in the reverse fashion, I would say yes. I think there is a lot of hair splitting when it comes to “impact player.” But let’s lump instead of split. I will compare the “impact” Niners players to the Bills as we basically have had identical draft position since 2017. And my criteria will be “better than the league average at X position.” That will make a Christian Benford equal to a Hufunga, despite one being an all-pro and the other being just “very very good.” Players in the Hamlin or replacement level tier will be excluded. And due to injuries/careers ending, I will be considering the players at what their peaks were, as long as those peaks imo encapsulated them as a player. (ie Tre and Deebo both qualify as both were generally high level players for the majority of their careers, whereas guys like Devin Singletary who were starters but have generally bounced around the league do not). Niners: Kittle McGlinchey Fred Warner DJ Reed N Bosa Deebo Greenlaw Aiyuk Lenoir Hufunga Purdy Banks Bills: Tre Dawkins Milano Allen Taron Johnson Teller Ed Brown Gabe Rousseau Cook Bernard Benford OCT Numerically, very close. Talent-wise? Not sure. Allen>Purdy obviously, and probably outweighs the differences between the two lists. But I think objectively, sans QB, list #1 is superior to list #2. Buffalo has the edge(no pun intended) at CB and OT. The Niners have the edge at pass rush, pass catchers, LB’s and safeties. My rule is how many of X players would it take to get Y. Could you trade Ed and Rousseau for Nick Bosa? I don’t think so. Could you trade McGlinchey and Banks for Dawkins and Brown? Also no.

100% rigged. this is part of the reason I want no part of a lotto in the NFL. Worst teams get the worst picks. Not the teams that took some short term pain trading a generational player to a marquee franchise to improve ratings.

Not sure who this player is. Maybe Taron Johnson? Not drafted by Beane. Not drafted by Beane. These guys are all drafted by Beane. The conversation was about comparing Beane’s drafting to other teams. That’s why we started in 2018. I think Beane is a very good GM, personally. I think, again, if you stack up his resume against the Niners, Chiefs or Eagles (basically all the teams to play in multiple Superbowls since he’s been here), he’s closer to the bottom of that grouping instead of the top.

15 wasn’t their pick. It was the Dolphins pick they acquired earlier. That’s what I’m saying. Why hold that draft slot against them? Yes again, you see the point. We had pick 10 in 2017. We traded back for future firsts. That’s why the further you go back, it evens out. More years of picks and it includes our bad years where those higher picks were used to find supposedly the better players that we can’t seem to find at pick 25. I didn’t say anything about expectations about Cody Ford, I just said that if we had turned those 2 years of picking much higher than we do now into an All-Pro or two, Beane’s resume looks much better. I think it’s dishonest to say “we can’t find difference makers picking so late” while not considering the years we didn’t pick late.

You don’t have to do the work! I just thought it would be interesting, because the longer you go back, the more it corrects for draft position. Like Buffalo having 2 first rounders in the first 16 picks in 2018 or a top 10 pick in 2019. It’s not that we haven’t had those higher picks. It’s that other than Josh, they haven’t been truly great imo. If one of Tremaine/Oliver/Ford was All-Pro status, I think Beane’s resume looks quite different. I also don’t think it’s fair to hold it against GMs who were savvy enough to make trades to end up with higher picks. The Chiefs haven’t missed the playoffs in 10 years, but still got Mahomes at 10. The Eagles turned their one down year into multiple first rounders over the years.