ArdmoreRyno
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17 minutes ago, Tiberius said:
Not directly, but a history of hate and poverty sure could create a situation where someone would be more violent
You don’t think racism was that big a deal I take it?
WAS it a big deal? Absolutely. Will it, unfortunately always be here (everywhere in the world)? Yes... it will.
Is that the reason idiots are shooting each other in the streets? No.
Socioeconomics due to a direct result of single parent homes is the reason IMO (I have a sociology/criminal justice undergrad degree, clinical mental health masters). There is a victim mentality across the board in all walks of life. No one should tell someone else, based on race... ethnicity... sex.... etc... that they are victims and that they don't have a shot in life. It's bogus in 2022.
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2 hours ago, Tiberius said:
Indirectly connected, poverty, racism and guns..oh my!
Poverty causes someone to shoot up a high school graduation outside NOLA?
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On 5/20/2022 at 10:30 AM, aristocrat said:
https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting
9 mass shootings since Buffalo. 7 dead, 43 wounded. None connected to white supremacy.
13 now.... zero connected to white supremacy and nearly all carried about by a minority.
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3 minutes ago, Warcodered said:
Seems like a terrible way to conduct an accurate survey, why give them numbers at all, just ask them to give their estimation and then you can get your information from that data? I mean giving people a multiple choice with the options of: A)10 B)100 C)1,000 D) 10,000 E) >10,000 when the actual number is apparently 27 seems intentionally skewed for people to overestimate the number.
Also nice how it glosses over how 25% of people killed by police being black when that's twice their percentage of the population is terrible.
Could it correlate to how most murder and robberies are carried about by the black population? More police interactions are a direct cause of those numbers. It's astonishing considering yes, the black population makes up just 13% of the population yet commits over 50% of murders and robberies. Those are things that need to somehow be addressed.
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17 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:
I used to be white. Then I retired by the pool in the desert in January
This whole skin color thing is ***** stupid.
Agree 100%
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23 minutes ago, Tiberius said:
Yup, whites will be another minority.
war on whitness thread...
I think that's what they are meaning by "replacement". It's not a good term to use for the fact that whites will be a minority.
I consider myself white even though I'm technically Chickasaw. Seems nearly half of Oklahoma have some Native blood.
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8 minutes ago, Tiberius said:
Do you believe whites are being replaced? Or any part of this crap?
I don't think people are saying aliens are coming down and replacing white people or killing off white people... but there are studies that show "white people" in the United States and especially parts of Europe, will be the minority sooner than later.
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25 minutes ago, Motorin' said:
The FBI data set notes that it is based on self reporting from police departments. They don't actively track this.
Whereas the total number of police shootings as tracked by the Washington Post are 4-5 times higher.
The fact that the FBI only started asking police departments to report shootings to them in 2018, and that as few as 1 in 5 police shootings get reported is a bit revealing.
As to your data analysis, I'd say your conclusions are probably inaccurate.
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9 minutes ago, Tiberius said:
What? You are saying that only 990 people were shot by cops in the last 3 and a half years?
In 2018, the FBI data that came up for me. And in typical fashion.... Tips skips the rest of the information. 👍
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I took an oath once, I'd do it again. I think your answers are great ones. Freedom is such a gift we have in the United States... it's worth defending at ALL COSTS.
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2 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said:
I would have to agree- do not do anything stupid, and you live to fight another day. Ive always listened to what police have told me along with being respectful and kind, and it always worked out well for me.
I really wish we can all come together and just be Americans. I served for 21 years so others wouldn’t have to suffer here on the home front, but here we are fighting and killing each other, for what?
This FBI data goes back to 2018
- 62 million police contacts with citizens
- 10,310,960 arrests
- 990 shot by police
- 18 were unarmed (7 black, 1 Hispanic, 10 white)
There is a 0.00000029% chance of being shot, unarmed, by police
(I've had LEO's point firearms at me before, when I did nothing wrong. I complied and was on my way in 15 minutes)
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Just now, ExiledInIllinois said:
And now... So do Trump rallies have various history of overthrowing the government.
What's your point about the shooting? We have a right wing nut that got overlooked? Why is that happening after January 6th, 2020. That's +two years ago...
I guess no matter what this evil-racist says he is and isn't.... liberals and the media are going to 100% stamp "right wing" on the dude? Right? Even though he says he's NOT conservative and is an authoritarian left winger. 🙄
(I had asked you a few questions, you ignored them)
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1 minute ago, ExiledInIllinois said:
If he wasn't like the pro 2nd establishment... They would have been on him like a hawk.
Just like the barricades would have went up on January 6th if that was a planned BLM event.
So you're saying it's based on race? I'm interested in having this conversation with you... so her we go.
Let me ask you about a planned "BLM event" you mention... what "event(s)" were there barricades put up?
- Pre-Jan 6th; can you let me know where pro-Trump rallies turned "violent" or had an property damage?
- What events/protests for BLM, where there "barricades" put into place?
- Has BLM "events" had a history of property damage?
5 minutes ago, aristocrat said:But the media and politicans will tell you that this one incident is far and away worse than the 500 other mass shootings that occur this year that do no involved white supremacy. They will completely ignore those other shootings and mark them irrelevant in their narrative.
Yep.
They're all horrible... but I would love to see CNN talk about the 600+ people killed in 2020 in "mass shootings" and who carried them out. They *ONLY* care about one certain race and how it was carried out (weapon type).
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Just now, ExiledInIllinois said:
Just a little mistake... No worries.
I didn't say it's not a problem. I wanted to know, what do you mean by "ANY other person or group"?
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1 minute ago, ExiledInIllinois said:
A quote from the other side:
"Law enforcement had the opportunity [remove weapons out of his life] to do so when they ordered an evaluation on him following threat of school shooting."
The answer to this is clear. They didn't, just like they didn't put barricades up on January 6th.
ANY other person or group... They wouldn't have been so lax.
Huh? So they were laxed with this kid in Buffalo because........ ?? They screwed up. Unfortunately, it happens. With the 'red flag laws' many people instantly lose their firearms. Sometimes they don't and mistakes are made.
Look at what happened in the church shooting a few years ago in Texas. The dude was dishonorably discharged from the military and the Navy and FBI both dropped the ball when he was allowed to pass a NICS check (form 4473, background check).
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1 hour ago, aristocrat said:
https://www.npr.org/2022/05/15/1099008586/mass-shootings-us-2022-tally-number
We ended 2021 with 693 mass shootings, per the Gun Violence Archive. The year before saw 611. And 2019 had 417
Nearly every one of them are gang shootings. Not a school shooting or what took place in Buffalo.
And of those 600+ both years you listed? The VAST majority are carried out by minorities. That goes against the media narrative if we are counting "mass shootings".
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5 minutes ago, HereComesTheReignAgain said:
Your grasp of ballistics is lacking. The 5.56 round tumbles when it enters a body and does extreme damage. It does not "pass right through". A shotgun shell does not leave a bowling ball size hole. Would people hunt with a shotgun if everything they shot ended up with that size hole in it? I am very pro 2nd amendment, but your arguments are just way off base. With that said, a shotgun is an extremely effective defensive (or offensive) weapon as is the AR-15.
Completely depends on the distance. At close range, 00 buck or a slug could easily put a huge hole in someone.
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11 minutes ago, Tiberius said:
LIAR!
Nope, makes perfect sense. You make a product that massacres people you should be able to get sued.
Moronic? No, you are just blinded by your bias.
So yes or no... Renault should be sued for the 80+ people killed and 450+ people injured in Nice, France?
Yes or no.
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31 minutes ago, Tiberius said:
Just know that a lot of blacks get shot when they don't even have a weapon on them
Nope, let victims have their day in court. You would deny that freedom to victims?
Not what I said and because a Ford SUV was used to kill people in Wisconsin... it doesn't mean they should be held responsible for the drivers actions.
Your logic is flawed. It's moronic.
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40 minutes ago, Gugny said:
Here we go.
Please do tell me about the 1927 bombings and then try to tell me how that is, in any way, relevant to the modern day gun violence/mass shootings using semi-automatic weapons.
Why not? People will find ways to kill others. They have for all human history.
You know what tannerite is, I assume? That could be made to carry out a bombing like what took place at the Bath school house. The Austin bell tower shooter... he killed 18 people and shot over 30 with a Remington 700 (bolt action).
Evil will find a way. If that's a Ford Escape in Waukesha, Wisconsin... or a Bushmaster XM-15 in Buffalo.
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Just now, Tiberius said:
If you can make the case in court, I say go for it. A plane manufacturer that makes a defective plane shouldn't be held accountable??? Huh?
You're now talking about a different thing all together.
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22 minutes ago, Tiberius said:
No, the GOP is peddling this crap. Build the wall! Illegal babies, Mexico is sending us rapists and drugs, etc. etc...
Still waiting to hear why you jump over posts that PROVE you're incorrect (and if you want to add to the list of companies/producers that could be sued due to their products being able to kill large number of people)
16 hours ago, Gugny said:Perhaps not. But fewer deaths and injuries.
Completely untrue. Do you know what the worst school massacre was in the United States? What was used?
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23 minutes ago, Tiberius said:
Is it an evil idea?
If people sell products that can be used to massacre people those making a selling them should be allowed to be sued in court. Pretty simple
So then let's start a list....
- Semi-trailer manufactures
- Moving van manufactures
- Car manufactures
- Knives manufactures
- Plane manufactures
- Helicopter manufactures
- Boats manufactures
- Petroleum companies
- Alcoholic beverage companies
- Firearm manufactures
- Ammonium Nitrate manufactures
- Cherry producers
- Apricot producers
- Plum producers
- Peach producers
- Apple producers
- Pear producers
- Rice producers
- Castor oil producers
How long should we make this list?
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13 hours ago, Tiberius said:
Let the jury decide of they provide a product that hurt people or is unsafe. Do mentally ill people seek these products out? Do the gun manufacturers know this? Of course.
Gun manufacturers are profiting right now off of this massacre.
Again, there are a plethora of things that can be used to hurt/kill people. What about the manufactures of ammonium nitrate fertilizer? You can buy 40 lb bags of it at the local feed store. Doesn't take much to turn those into something that can kill hundreds at a time. What about the makers of alcoholic beverages? Those kill FAR MORE than firearms. It's actually 3-4x more deaths. Should people be suing Labatts?
I'd love to see the studies to back up your claim on "mentally ill people seek out these products" and gun makers knowing this so they can sell firearms to them.
BTW: You continue to ignore points I'm making... like you claiming you nor anyone you know ever having a home broken into thus no need for semi-automatic firearms... when I posted story after story (linked) to times these firearms save lives and protect homes.
Racially motivated murder at Tops
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Bullsh*t
Pre-1960's, the single parent home for black families was under 10%. Today its at over 70% (all races are up to be transparent). What took place around that time? Welfare expansion... which took place during the JFK administration.
Quote from Paul E. Peterson (Harvard professor).. “welfare assistance went to mothers so long as no male was boarding in the household… Marriage to an employed male, even one earning the minimum wage, placed at risk a mother’s economic well-being.” Infamous “man in the house” rules meant that welfare workers would randomly appear in homes to check and see if the mother was accurately reporting her family-status. He added, “estimated that in 1975 a household head would have to earn $20,000 a year to have more resources than what could be obtained from Great Society programs.” In today’s dollars, that’s over $90,000 per year in earnings. “The government paid mothers to keep fathers out of the home—and paid them well.”
https://www.educationnext.org/government-subsidize-not-tax-marriage/