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13 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:
Ok, let me answer 1 at a time if you will.....
1) It is not Nick Saban's fault that they play a few weak non-conference teams every season. Teams do not want to play Alabama. The weak teams are paid to do so. Once again, kudos to OSU for having the courage to face Alabama.
2) Last season, Alabama played an all SEC schedule. They destroyed every team except Florida, who they beat by "only" 6 points. Their non-conference games were against Notre Dame and Ohio State, both of whom they destroyed. If you don't think that they were/are legit champions, then you are too clouded by hatred and jealousy to face the obvious. They were the absolute best team in 2020 and up there with, if not the best ever.
3) This Alabama team is coming around, but they are just not as good as the 2020 team, and I never said that they are. Now that this is out of they way, I want to add that I almost never bet games, despite the fact that I am usually correct about Alabama (and the Bills btw). When I do wager I don't post it here, because I'm afraid someone might listen to me, lose money, and get angry. That said, I bet on Alabama against Georgia plus 6 1/2. I also bet them with no points getting 2x1 odds and made a small chunk of money. I did so because you should NEVER give points to Nick Saban, let alone lay odds against him. Never. Now, I will NOT be betting on the Tide against Cincy. Bama is very good but this is not 2020, where laying 14 against Cincy would have been a laughing matter. it still MIGHT be but I'm not as sure.
Now, pleae tell me, do you think that OSU, or any other team in the Big 12 would stand a reasonable chance against Alabama or Georgia? I mean really. Btw, when Texas A&M left the Big 12 they were able to recruit better players. Players who wanted to face good competetion. Texas will improve in a hurry. Oklahoma probably will not, thus the rapid departure of Lincoln Riley. He went out west to face the same type of weak competetion that he faced at Oklahoma, and he will because at USC, he will out recruit the west coast teams.
In any event, I wouldn't be so upset with an 8 team playoff, providing it did NOT mean extra games for already overworked kids who are risking millions of dollars on every play, let alone every game.
PS: Would players opt out of expanded playoffs? I don't know, you tell me.
Peace and Happy Holidays!
NOTHING of what you said makes any difference in regards to why I'm pro-expansion like nearly EVERY fan of college football... and media member. Nearly every. single. one.
Seems the Alabama fans here are the only ones against it. I wonder why? Maybe because Bama is pretty much consensus top 2 in the country pre-season every year? They are at the top and get to stay around the top 5 regardless if they win or lose (to like a team like A&M).
I'm not arguing how good Alabama football is. It's been the best the past 12-13 years. Will continue to be as long as Saban in the coach. That has nothing to do with what I'm saying.
BTW: the PAC-12 sucks compared to the Big XII and the rest of the Power 5. There were a LOT of rumors about Riley here in Oklahoma when he left. And Texas hasn't done crap in forever. My Cowboys have kicked their arses the past 10+ season with their 5 star recruits compared to our 3 star guys. There's going to "improve in a hurry" now? LOL. The "Texas is back" theme is a joke in the Big XII and has been. It's a culture problem in Austin. -
31 minutes ago, Cynical said:
Someday, maybe your team will go up big strong, and become something more than a "sub-par" team.
Sub-par being any team other than Alabama? LOL
Oklahoma State has been the 2nd winningest team in the Big XII and a top 10 in total wins in the NCAA the past 15 or so years. I guess when you finish 3rd, 5th, 7th, 8th, etc... that makes you a sub-par team huh? Hell, last time we played we beat you.
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2 minutes ago, Big Turk said:
As someone who played soccer 20+ years and kicked for several years in various flag/touch football leagues, I can tell you that it isn't about simply kicking the ball. With a kicking tee/person holding with no rush, I routinely drilled 55-60 yard FGs. But doing it live in a game is a completely different animal.
It is actually one of the most precisely timed plays in football because the entire operation needs to be complete in about 1.5 seconds from snap, to hold, to kick. It took quite some time and a lot of practice to get that down properly with the holder, and in games where the normal holder didn't show up, it was a problem many times. I'm no expert, but I can tell you it is definitely not as simple in live action as "can this person kick the ball this far through the two poles"
I never said grab anyone off the street. I said they can likely find someone who can kick, especially on a team with NFL players. Most people at that level, probably kicked in high school. You can't tell me Haack, who has kicked since HS, can't work on FG's or extra points. He's not a 20 year pro playing flag or touch football. He's been taught by professionals since he was at Arizona State.
Again, many kicked in HS. Like Welker, I watched him in Oklahoma kick 40+ yard field goals for Heritage Hall back in 1998. He could still kick in the NFL when needed.
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If this dude can learn to kick in a few days, it can't be hard for a PROFESSIONAL football player, who probably kicked in HS, to learn how to kick an extra point or short FG.
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On 9/25/2017 at 2:37 PM, Canadian Bills Fan said:
Because its nice to have a team you support that you can count on being in the championship almost every year
CBF
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17 hours ago, Bill from NYC said:
Why not? Because college students should not be required to play 20 game seasons in order to satisfy the whims of fans of sub-par teams.
The bolded is just so laughable that a comment would be a waste of time.
But they already do... and we both know, it's not 20 games. What you said... it really doesn't make a reason to not play a expanded playoff. You are being a tad bit dramatic.
NCAA D2 (FCS) and NCAA D3 all play a solid post-season playoff. D3 has 32 teams make it, D2 has 24.
Both D2 and D3 play a total of 15 games (max). If Alabama beats Cincy and makes it to the title game, they'll also play 15. That kills your argument in it's tracks. It's not difficult to do brother... you get rid of non-conference games that don't matter. SEC no longer plays "sub-par teams" at the end of the season (like the mighty Aggies of NM State or South Alabama). Big XII no longer plays teams like Tulsa or Western Carolina. It starts with your conference game, week 1.
I'll post what it would look like this year, again:
1. Alabama - BYE (v 8/9 winner)
2. Michigan - BYE (v 7/10 winner)
3. UGA - BYE (v 6/11 winner)
4. Cincy - BYE (v 5/12 winner)
5. ND vs 12. Pittsburgh
6. Ohio State vs 11. Utah
7. Baylor vs 10. Michigan State
8. Ole Miss vs 9. Oklahoma State
So the "sub-par" teams your Tide would have to face (me picking winners here)?
GAME 1: Alabama #9 Oklahoma State
GAME 2: Alabama vs #5 Notre Dame
GAME 3: Alabama vs #2 Michigan
Such sub-part opponents the 'Bama would face. LOL
And your last comment "The bolded is just so laughable that a comment would be a waste of time." Really? Didn't Alabama lose to A&M? A team BARELY ranked?
Didn't they squeak by a crappy unranked Auburn team? A very average barely ranked Arkansas team? A bad unranked LSU team? ALL in the past 4-5 weeks of the season? Dude, the arrogance of Alabama fans. My Gawd. (You just want the little Blue Blood club and leave everyone else out, be honest)
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17 hours ago, Bill from NYC said:
Once again, I don't believe in expanded playoffs, although I do think that it will happen at some point in order to throw a bone to fans of lesser teams. I'm sure that you know what I mean.
You might be in the 0.01% that doesn't want the expansion. Why not?
College football is my first love, always will be... but there is NO sporting 'event' better than the NCAA Tournament. 64+4 teams getting to battle it out and ANYONE can win. Fans LOVE to watch it, it's exciting. If you've never attended a NCAA Tournament, it's an amazing atmosphere. Seeing a team like Florida Gulf Coast (15 seed) beat a 2 seeded Georgetown then make it to the Sweet 16 is so much fun.
We'd have answers at that point. We'd see if a Baylor or Oklahoma State could compete with Bama, Georgia or Michigan. We would then FINALLY have a TRUE NCAA champion. Something we have never had in D1/FCS football. I feel the only ones against it are the fans of teams who always make it in... Bama and Clemson for example.
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This might be the only Playoffs I'll give a rip about in a while because we have new blood in the water.
I hope Cincy beats the piss out of Alabama. There are two Bama teams... the one that played against A&M, Auburn, LSU, Arkansas and one that played against Ole Miss & UGA. For MOST college football fans, Bama is like New England. We're sick of them. Completely sick. It's why I pray for a bigger playoff someday.
I'd love to see this:
1. Alabama - BYE (v 8/9 winner)
2. Michigan - BYE (v 7/10 winner)
3. UGA - BYE (v 6/11 winner)
4. Cincy - BYE (v 5/12 winner)
5. ND vs 12. Pittsburgh
6. Ohio State vs 11. Utah
7. Baylor vs 10. Michigan State
8. Ole Miss vs 9. Oklahoma State
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On 8/22/2021 at 2:34 PM, thunderingsquid said:
1. Jordan Davis IDL Georgia
2. Jeremy Ruckert TE Ohio State
3. Ed Ingram IOL LSU
4. Grant Gibson C NC State
5. Raleigh Texada CB Baylor
6. Kolby Harvell-Peel S Oklahoma State
7. LD Brown RB Oklahoma State
7. Christian Jones OT Texas
Just now seeing this. Would be amazing to see two more OSU Cowboys in Buffalo... but I know this was really early. LD Brown was hurt in week 3 and never returned. Now another back, Jaylen Warren could be draftable in a late round. He's a former Utah State RB who tore up Big XII defenses this season. Had over 1,100 yards and didn't play in 3 games. He didn't play in the Big XII title game. If he did, we would have beat Baylor. ZERO doubt.
But I tell you one kid who I think could be a star? LB Malcolm Rodriguez. He's not big, only 5'11 and around 225 lbs... but what he lacks in size, he makes up for it in plays. Former state champion wrestler... he touches you, you're going down. Period. He doesn't miss tackles. Oklahoma State has two former all-state/champions wrestlers on defense and both were the most sure-tacklers I've ever watched. MRod had the most solo tackles as a LB as a power-5 school the past two years.
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1 hour ago, Gordio said:
It will be interesting to see if OSU is excited to play this game considering they were 1 inch away from beating Baylor & possibly jumping Cinci for that 4th spot. My guess is Notre Dame will be ready to go given the fact they have a new coach that players seem to be excited to play for.
I think they will. Same question could have been asked during the 2011 season when OSU was like 0.008 points away from a National Championship slot. Went into the Fiesta bowl against Andrew Luck and #4 ranked Stanford and won.
OSU has never played ND and they will have something to prove.
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13 hours ago, SinceThe70s said:
Yeesh, I just went to my first college football game a few months ago and I'm more than a few decades past 6 years old.
$1200/per is a lot of coin to drop on a football game. If I had a rooting interest it would be a good excuse to visit one of my favorite regions of the country
I'm going... got tickets, airfare, hotel, car a couple of days ago. Managed to keep it in the budget. Hard to pass up an Oklahoma State v Notre Dame matchup. Both teams were outside-shots to make the Playoffs this year. Should be a damn good game.
Yea, I was probably 1 1/2 when I went to my first college game. My dad is a HUGE Oklahoma State fan (like me) and he went to Dental School at OU, so he had free tickets to games in Norman. He would take me to games and listen to OSU over the radio while watching OU. He took me to the 1976 Bedlam game in Norman (which OSU won).
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25 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:
Maybe I'm wrong. I was placing lots of emphasis to the quality of opponents.
Let's be honest, we don't really know how the opponents every team stack up to different conferences. Kansas State beat up Stanford, who beat Oregon, who beat tOSU. Oklahoma State pretty much dominated K-State. Etc, etc, etc.
We will see over the next month how it goes... but you can only play who's on your schedule. OSU plays teams like Arkansas and Bama over the next 10 years (home and home).
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15 hours ago, Willyville Guy said:
This was mentioned in another thread (hat tip Knowles's girlfriend). It's a good sign for Day that he got the guy he wanted and that every other school apparently wanted this year. Hopefully Knowles comes in and gets the players he needs to bring great defense back to Ohio State.
tOSU just got the best DC in the country.
I'd argue with anyone that Oklahoma State has the #1 defense in college football this season. Gave up 21 total touchdowns (no more than 24 points allowed in ANY game by that defense). No other team in the nation did that this year. Leads in sacks, 3rd down defense, 4th down defense, top 3 in yards allowed, etc, etc.
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I'm still debating rather or not to go to Glendale to see my Cowboys play. It would be an amazing finish to beat Notre Dame in the Fiesta Bowl, but dropping $1200/per person for the trip... not so excited about. Esp. after Christmas.
On 12/5/2021 at 10:38 PM, CowgirlsFan said:Not me.
The other half is.
Tropical Smoothie Frisco Bowl.
Toyota Stadium Frisco,Texas.
North Texas vs Miami ( Ohio) December 23.
I'd love for Oklahoma State to play at the new North Texas stadium. Every time I drive by it, it's fascinating how it looks. My earliest memory of a football game was an OSU v UNT game in the Cotton Bowl in 1981. I was 6 years old.
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16 hours ago, SirAndrew said:
Good post, I think the defense doesn’t get the credit they deserve because of bias against the stereotypical Big 12 style of play. The running back being out was a huge loss. Jackson just doesn’t appear to have what it takes to be the main back in that offense.
Jackson is good, but not good enough against a Baylor run defense. Warren ran for 125 yards and 2 TDs in the first meeting against Baylor... they couldn't stop him. He is a FAST bruising running back. We didn't have that and seriously needed in last Saturday. I have no doubt we would have won if he had played... even as bad as Sanders played. He did as bad in game one against Baylor and we won by 10.
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15 hours ago, Bill from NYC said:
No. It will stop when other teams are worthy.
Players (who are mostly poor kids) should not have to play 17 game schedules in college in order to appease fans of not so great teams. In every game they are risking losing out on millions of dollars. How many playoff teams should there be? 8? 16? 32?
Imo, all football fans possess a certain degree of the gladiator mentality. We watch our favorite teams play a vicious sport and hope for hard his, sacks, etc. I am not above this nor do I pretend to be.
That said, should college players take even more risk to satisfy the wishes of fans that root for a team that cannot win enough games?
Players will start sitting out playoff games if they have 16 or 17 gme schedules and would you blame them? They are already sitting out the bowls.
And btw, I am an Alabama fan. 99% of sportswriters, sportscasters, and fans expected the Tide to lose to UGA. A larger playoff pool would have appeared to work for Bama this season. Still, the only way I could support expanded playoffs would be if they eliminated games from the schedule, and also did away with conference championship games. This btw will never happen.
Of course, the above is jmo.
I am sorry that your team lost, and know how much it sucks to get that close and lose. I don't however agree that your defense is the best in the NCAA.
Top Ten? Perhaps.
How do you figure it's only top 10?
- Only team defense that has allowed 3 TDs or less in any game this year to offenses.
- Has not allowed a TD after halftime (adjustments) by 1st team defenses the past 6 games - TCU scored 2 TDs on the 2nd team def in the 4Q
- Leads the NCAA in sacks - 55 - 9 better than Alabama and 13 better than UGA
- 1st in tackle for loss
- 3rd in total yards allowed per game
- 2nd in 3rd down percentage allowed
- 6th in 4th down percentage allowed
- 9th in 1st downs allowed per game
- 8th in scoring defense
- 12th in passing yards allowed
- 5th in rushing yards allowed
Only UGA and Wisconsin are in the top 10 (like Oklahoma State) in practically ever defensive stat. Perhaps top 10? lol
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On 12/4/2021 at 3:03 PM, SirAndrew said:
Oklahoma State offense did look eerily similar to ours on a bad day. I couldn’t stop thinking about the similarities the entire time I watched.
I was at the game, it was a terrible offensive performance... but we were w/o our 1,100 bruising RB. He got hurt and suited, but never played.
The defense, I'd argue... we have the BEST defense in the country. ONLY defense in college football to not allow more than 3 offensive TDs in a game this year. Then you add in, the 1st team defense didn't allow a 2nd half TD in the past 2 months (6 games straight).
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That's why we lost. The refs with the clock with 1:30 to go.
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So that said... GO POKES.
Should be a GREAT game in Glendale. ND offense vs Oklahoma State's defense (best in the NCAA IMO).
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On 12/5/2021 at 11:39 AM, YoloinOhio said:
Insider info is Ohio state is offering 2mill and ok state is offering 1.2. This is coming from Knowles girlfriend (don’t ask)
I pray we math it. I know Gundy is trying to get a deal done and the players have all been on social media trying to campaign to pay the man.
We return 8 starters off that defense... which you're not going to convince me, it might be the best in the country. After they only allowed 21 points to Baylor, 0 in the 2nd half... while our QB was giving the Bears 37 yards, 11 yard, 50 yard drives due to turnovers. The defense stepped up in a HUGE way in the 2nd half in Bedlam and the Big XII title game. 0 points allowed in both in the 2nd half.
I worry we'd lose players to the portal if Knowles leaves
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17 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:
Hey @ArdmoreRyno Ohio state is after Jim Knowles for DC. Penn state is interested too actually. Not sure if he sees either as career advancement
Florida is as well... I hope we pony up and pay him about $2 million/year.
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17 hours ago, Mark Vader said:
What a game that was for you to be at.
I can only imagine how it must have felt in that stadium after that Oklahoma QB got that 50+ yard run with under a minute to go.
Roller coaster game for sure. I thought we had won the game when we sacked Williams with 1:40 to play. Then after a 3 and out burning their timeouts, then that run... I was about to get sick thinking "Here we go again." I've seen SO MANY Bedlam games where a better OSU team blows it against OU (2010, 2013, 2017). It was nice to see the Cowboys shut the OU offense from scoring a point in the 2nd half.
The 24 first half points tied the most points they allowed all season.
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19 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:
Did you or did you not read where I said that Alabama would be in an 8 team playoff even with a loss to Georgia? An expanded playoff system would place Alabama in the playoffs more often, not less.
I do however hope that the little team that you support gets better.
I would really hope for the bolded, but it will be tough sledding against Georgia.
Remember, I cannot stress enough that this team is not as good as Bama 2020. That team could have put up 70 against this Cincy team if they felt like it.
Dude, no... we aren't Alabama or Clemson, but my little team is a top 10 program since like 2007.
https://www.teamrankings.com/ncf/trends/win_trends/?range=yearly_since_2008
Playoffs 2021.....
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I said we wouldn't see 20 games. He did. I know what he said.
Mary Hardin-Baylor beat North Central Illinois for the DIII Championship. Like Montana State, it was their FIFTEENTH (15th) game played this season.
Again, we can play an expanded playoff like the other divisions. We already play up to 15 games now. Not sure what the argument is other than you want to beat up on Mercer and New Mexico State?
This was a comment/term used by your fellow Bama fan. Not me dude.
If we should make automatic qualifiers, then let's do it. That way even smaller conferences get a shot. But Mike's argument is teams he dubbed "sub-par" aren't worthy of playing the mighty and the great Alabama Crimson Tide. Probably think that about Cincy too, right?
WTF are you talking about? I never said the NCAA has anything to do with a real championship or the playoffs. I argue with OU fans all the time, it's a mythical title anyway. That's why we need an expanded playoff system like FCS, DII and DIII (yes, I'm well aware of the divisions, not sure what the point of your comment is). I'm advocating for an expansion so the NCAA can take charge and give us a real championship trophy unlike the BCS or CFP. Or hell, back when the AP crowned the champion.
It's completely achievable. You just have to do it. I say that because IT'S ALREDY BEING DONE in other divisions.
The BCS was completely flawed. See the 2011 season for a prime example. Alabama didn't even win their own division, couldn't play for a conference title and yet they get into the BCS title game... because they are Alabama (rolling my eyes).
This would be the best solution to all this. I do agree.