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    What is better, no guns, or more guns?

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    Let me point-by-point list what I think is a good compromise to the gun debate involving schools (and 18 year old's buying firearms). This is unlike what you'll get from the unrealistic anti-gun idiots on here who just want to ban a firearm type:

     

    • Harden every school, every level (K-12). That would include, cameras covering entry and exit points. Automatic lock doors, requiring being "buzzed in" after the front office/admin recognizing that person requesting entry. ONE entry point, ONE exit point. Of course, there are many schools that do require two. At the school I'm at, we have a front door into the lobby and a backdoor into the lobby, that goes to the cafeteria. The back exit door also is covered by cameras and you have to be buzzed in. In addition, we have cameras all over our school... both outside and inside. Camera's covering the parking lot, and one on every corner of the building(s). Each room needs to be locked. When people yell "We can't afford that!". I'm at an Oklahoma HS. The budget for education here is as low as any state. It CAN be done. 
    • Arm teachers, staff and administrators. Let me clarify so people don't get the idea we FORCE any teacher to do this: This is voluntary only. With this, it's either conceal carry or in an attached "quick access" safe (biometric safe, which is not expensive) that is attached to the desk. No reason any student, parent, etc. would know who these people who have the CCW. This would require training and semi-annual training assisted by local LEO. Post signs, like many have in some states, that "This school may have armed teachers and staff" right out front. 
    • Keep the current laws for age requirements, but add additional, in-depth backgrounds, in regards to semi-automatic rifles for under 21-year old's. We already have an age requirement of 21 for handguns. There is no need to change that. If someone under the age of 21 wants to buy a M1 Garand, Ruger 10/22, AR-15, etc., they have to complete a longer background check. That would include juvenile delinquency backgrounds, school history backgrounds (this takes MINUTES to do at a school, in regards to discipline... teachers and staff usually know if a kid has made threats before). Social media search. Mental health search (most states have a database on mental health involvement for youth). 
    • Require gun-owners to have their firearms in a safe when they are not at home or not in their vehicle. This includes gun shops and pawn shops. HUGE pain, but probably needs to be done. Have them all placed in a "magazine" which is what you have to do for explosives. This is the try and prevent the problem of stolen firearms. We have had too many guns stolen out of homes, cares and gun/pawn shops. There is really no reason to not have your firearm locked up when you're not close to it. Failure to do so would be harsh. 
    • Require immediate reporting of any stolen or lost firearm to LEO.  Why this isn't already a law in every state and why someone who has their firearm stolen as soon as they know, it's mindboggling. If someone broken into my home and stole anything, let alone a firearm... I'm calling LEO as soon as I can. Failure to do so would be harsh. 

    I've said this MANY times. We have 400,000,000+ firearms in the country. The cats out of the bag, no matter if you are pro or anti-gun. You will never take those out of the public's hand unless they are caught doing something illegal with it. We have a 2A. Only country (as far as I know) who has this establish and stamped into our rights in the United States. That's not going away. 

    23 minutes ago, BillStime said:

     

    Don't you just love when your words constantly haunt you?

     

    WHAT EXACTLY ARE YOU INFERRING WITH THESE COMMENTS?

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    WHO IS THE RESIDENT MORON?

     

    F'n idiots

     

     

     

     

     

    I'm afraid YOU are dude. Embarrassing really. 

     

    I'm for arming teachers, staff, etc. at the schools. I didn't say you FORCE any teacher to do so. You have conscientious objectors in the US military. You can have the same in school. 

    Dude, are you this slow? IQ under 80? Seriously? You don't get sarcasm (my M134 comment) and you read something and add 50 additional things into that one statement. 

    What is better, no guns, or more guns?

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    7 minutes ago, BillStime said:


    The nut job is you for wanting to arm every teacher in America with a gun.

     

    More guns <> less death and violence

     

    Another statement by our resident moron, that I never said. 

     

    Let me say this, (even though you'll ignore me and pretend I still think we should send $500,000 mini guns to each teacher, since apparently your humor is on par with Sheldon Cooper): I'm for arming a volunteer staff of people at schools... teachers, administrators, front office workers, etc. Training goes along with that volunteering. 

    What is better, no guns, or more guns?

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    3 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:


    You lie like other people eat Doritos.  
     

    In response to me saying nobody in this thread is demanding a handgun ban, you post a blurb about Canada.

     

    You’re a professional liar with terrible football takes to boot.

     

    LOL, just a little blurb about capping the number of handguns in Canada. No biggie. 

     

    Here's the thing... once you open that door to "banning" a weapon type, the door is now propped open. It wouldn't take much for some nut (like a Beto-type) to ban handguns for some reason like "most used in gun deaths in America, so we are stopping all sales". 

    What is better, no guns, or more guns?

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    41 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

    Everything about this is an embarrassment - from the mask theater - the cover to do what they always wanted to do ....take all the guns.  What exactly did law abiding Canadians do to warrant this?  Joke.  

     

    And borders don't stop leftism.  They are of the same ilk here.  

     

     

     

    Makes no sense.  

     

    You're super safe already in Canada because you can't buy the "scary" guns anyway.

     

    Why they coming for hand guns they say they don't want to ban?  


    Dude is a commie. Maybe some

    of the people here should move there. 

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    What is better, no guns, or more guns?

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    5 minutes ago, muppy said:

    Im sorry but I think calling someone a fool is harsh you can't speak with 1000%  certainty that less available assault weapons WOULDN'T save lives. Lets just remain status quo and see what happens........the existing laws are working sooo well.....Sarcasm indeed*

     

    Props for safe gun storage. Its the people who shoot the guns but it is a weapon with an intentded purpose and it is to KILL. Thats just my opinion. If it has other uses that would be fascniating to me......

     

    I wasn't meaning I think you're a fool. Just explaining, mass shootings happen with all types of firearms. Handguns, being the WIDELY most popular. In fact, only around 400-450 deaths are from rifles (AR included) in all gun deaths... not just 'mass shootings'. They stuck out because the media and left will shove it in your face. Did you hear ANYTHING about the shooting that hit 9 people in Chicago on May 22nd? No. Why? A Glock was used (handgun). Not an AR platform rifle. 

     

    We need to put a law in place that people must secure their firearms when they are not at home or vehicle, in a safe. MAKE gun owners HAVE to report one lost or stolen (why this doesn't happen every time is mind blowing to me). I'd not have an issue with 18-to-21 year old's having to complete a further background check than the Form 4473 we all do. Maybe apply them to AR platforms, AK platforms, etc. Actual wait time. 

     

    I've shot the AR platform all my life (I say platform because you can have one in everything from a 9mm to .22LR to 12 gauge. I have a few in 5.56 and two in 300 AAC Blackout). I've completed around the country with the AR (Sport shooting). I also hunt with my 300 Blackout AR... it's a PEFECT hog and deer gun. In fact, it's a must for hog. 

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    What is better, no guns, or more guns?

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    5 hours ago, muppy said:

    Walter Nirenberg

     

    Uvalde: AR-15

    Buffalo: AR-15

    Boulder: AR-15

    Orlando: AR-15

    Parkland: AR-15

    Las Vegas: AR-15

    Aurora, CO: AR-15

    Sandy Hook: AR-15

    Waffle House: AR-15

    San Bernardino: AR-15

    Midland/Odessa: AR-15

    Poway Synagogue: AR-15

    Sutherland Springs: AR-15

    Tree of Life Synagogue: AR-15

    It's the guns.

     

     

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    Strange... my AR's have never jumped out of my safe to hurt anyone. You're a fool if you think "it's the guns". 

     

    VA Tech (32 dead): 9mm & .22LR pistols

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    What is better, no guns, or more guns?

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    8 hours ago, BillStime said:


    I asked you:

     

     

    And Mr NRA responded with:

     

     

    I appreciate your honesty but you can go f yourself you pos.

     

    Karma is gonna love you

     


    Karma is gonna love me? I guess losing people in combat isn’t enough for you. 
     

    While you were eating Cheetos and jerking off to your moms Sears magazine. 

    What is better, no guns, or more guns?

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    7 minutes ago, BillStime said:


    No - you told us your gun is more important than human life.

     

    Then YOU told us every teacher in America should have this:

     

     

     

     

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    And then you tried to provide links of a good guy w a gun.

     

     


    And you think anyone should buy what you are selling when guns are destroying America.

     

    Enough Mr NRA


    I’m now convinced, you’re a troll. Just an idiot trying to push buttons. lol 

     

    No one can be as dumb as you.

    What is better, no guns, or more guns?

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    What is better, no guns, or more guns?

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    1 minute ago, BillStime said:


    You lost all credibility and objectivity when you told everyone here that your gun is more important than human life.

     

    Go to bed little boy 

     

     


    I never said that. You said that you idiot. 
     

    And love how you ignore (again) facts how a good guy with a gun works. It’s not perfect, but it works. Sorry dude, facts. 

    What is better, no guns, or more guns?

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    2 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:


    Complete utter dogcrap lies to justify a billion dollar industry.  Hairsplitting about what is and isn’t an assault rifle is yet another tired diversionary tactic of the sickos.  NOBODY in the entire country needs an assault rifle to defend their home.  Zero people.  None.  Does not exist, it’s a complete myth.

     

    The sickest thing about today’s GOP is that they’ve started to cite the prevalence of their own lies as evidence that they must be true.  
     

    “Well I’m just saying it can’t be a coincidence that so many people believe the election was stolen, there must be something to it.”

     

    This is fascism, the use of folk lies and the painting of an enemy to justify force and aggression. 


    Do you need me to provide links to articles where it’s been used to save lives? 
     

    Hey, let’s ban the one firearm that accounts for 0.01% of gun deaths. Brilliant idea 👍🏻🤦🏻‍♂️

    What is better, no guns, or more guns?

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    1 hour ago, BillStime said:


    Ignore proof? You provided a link to back up your claims by a gun nut.

     

    You fail to ignore the proof that already exists. The good guy with a gun was killed last week at Tops and the good guys with a gun in Texas were too afraid to enter the building.

     

    You are nuts.

     

    You have already made it clear you care more about your AR-15 than human life.

     

    Karma is gonna be a bich for you.

     

     


    Screened? The kid in Texas walked in - got the gun - and left.

     

    Came back and bought another two days later.

     

    Screened? JFC


    Really? The article about the shooting in North Carolina? All the news agencies are gun nuts? lol 

     

     

    What is better, no guns, or more guns?

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    40 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:


    Obviously not talking about soldiers and cops.

     

    Nobody in this country lives somewhere where they need an AR-15 to defend their property.  That’s a myth - one of many - created by the gun lobby and spoonfed to the GOP base which is itself constantly looking for lies and enemies to fuel its neo-fascism.

     

    The irony of proposing mental health screening for assault weapons is that anyone who enjoys collecting and shooting assault weapons is mentally broken.  If you get off on that stuff you’re mentally unfit to own it.

     

    Another NRA lie is that if you start screening gun buyers and limiting the types of weapons that can get sold you’ll soon eat away the Second Amendment altogether.  That’s a fascist myth; there have been limits on the the types of weapons one can purchase for some time now, and the Second Amendment is still going strong. If you haven’t noticed it’s hard to purchase anti-aircraft missiles, for example.


    Wrong on so many levels. I can post articles were lives were saved, even by home along teenagers, using an AR. In the town I lived in, a kid defended himself and home from 3 home invaders... with an AR. 
     

    And the AR is now a WIDELY popular hunting rifle and even more sport rifle. 400/450 rifle deaths per year (not just ‘mass shootings’, this includes suicides). So ban that. 
     

    Makes sense. 

    What is better, no guns, or more guns?

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    8 hours ago, BillStime said:

    Yea let’s arm teachers - that’s the solution.


    And when a teacher kills half or all the students in her/his room - trying to take aim and kill the gunman covered in armor - then what?

     

    F that

     

     

    The good guy with a gun theory is dead


    You keep repeating this yet ignoring proof your comment is false. 

    What is better, no guns, or more guns?

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    33 minutes ago, BillStime said:


    There you go ladies and gentleman - this guy is so incredibly selfish his gun is more important than the endless massacre of innocent people.

     

    1) I would give up my car in a heartbeat if I knew it would prevent a loved one from getting killed. 

     

    2) Regarding Putin - your master doesn’t have the right to invade a sovereign country and massacre people.

     

    But then again I am not surprised a Trumphole is okay with Putin destroying its neighbor and killing innocent people. It is exactly what you want to happen here.

     

    Guns over People - it’s the Republican way.

     

    sick


    YOU are the Putin lover. 
     

    And you’re an idiot beta troll. 

    What is better, no guns, or more guns?

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    12 minutes ago, BillStime said:


    So ladies and gentleman - according this Mr NRA - the United States is the ONLY country on the planet that has social media, breakdown of the nuclear family, and has access to violent video games and movies… did you know that?

     

    And this guys solution is to arm our teachers with this:

     

     


    JFC 

     

    Notice it’s never about easy access to guns?

     

     

     

     


    I’m apparently a member of the NRA. Didn’t know that. Keep calling me that. 
     

    You’re the resident fan of Putin and Russian involvement in Ukraine. 
     

    And I actually think each front door should have a Ma Deuce. Those are great weapon systems. Been around for almost 100 years. Shot them a lot. 

    What is better, no guns, or more guns?

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    14 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

     

    OK, so if all these illegal weapons around why don't we be proactive in stopping them from getting them?  You know the most common way they get them?  They sen someone with  a clean record to a state where it's easy to buy and then they get sold in Chicago where it's hard to buy. Why don't we come up with a way to stop that. Then slowly over time you have less and less guns as they are confiscated during crimes or thrown away after crime.  Cut off their supply chain. Cause what's happening now isn't working. 

     

    Creating more lines of defenses in schools is just not normal. This school had SRO's and this Ramos kid knew it as did the kid down in parkland. They went anyways and still got passed them cause they weren't there. Not every teacher is even able to carrry. We all thought sro's would stop it...armed cops. They still try and have succeeded.  I mean we're sending kids to schools with armor plates in their backpacks in the hopes that it saves their lives. This is not first world country stuff. 


    Dude, it’s not normal but since the dawn of social media, breakdown of the nuclear family, violent video games and movies... the norm is out the window. So you become proactive. Look at the Capitol. 1.9 BILLION to make it more secure after Jan 6. One incident and they throw BILLIONS to fix it. Harden it. 

     

    The school didn’t have a SRO there. They had them in the district but they didn’t stand watch at that school. Many focus on middle and high schools. 
     

    I never said we needed to arm “all teachers”. Go to a local school and ask how many would volunteer. At mine? At least six (every one I’ve spoke to about it) have said they would. 
     

    Let me ask you this, it continues to get passed over from people here for some strange reason: Why have schools who ARM TEACHERS/or/STAFF have a 100% success rate? Zero school shootings in 22 years of keeping track? Why????? 
     


     

     

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