SaulGoodman
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10 minutes ago, Success said:
You posted a pic - not the play. It was incidental. It wasn't a good call.
You tend to appeal to the authority of mass opinion. Why are you trying to cherrypick that?
Nah, but if the choice is unbiased expert opinion vs extremely biased non-expert opinion, that's an easy call.
Rules experts defended the call. You're not a rules expert. End of story.
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3 minutes ago, Success said:
I've actually seen more speculation from pundits this season that Allen is surpassing Mahomes. I've seen a lot more speculation on that.
Sounds like you're clinging to opinion from previous years.
I heard a lot more of that last year, when his WRs were dropping every other pass. Then it disappeared after he played near-perfect football in the postseason again.
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33 minutes ago, Success said:
Over 90% of football fans thought those calls were bogus.
It's not like it's "tainted championships" or anything like that. But the Chiefs have gotten the benefit of more calls than most.
I presume you have eyes, right? What do you see in that pic?
I'd love to hear the case for how a hit two yds OOB is not a penalty. I've honestly never even heard anyone argue this. The argument is always "they should've let it go in that situation."
But yes, 90% of football fans were triggered by those calls. That's how it works when a team wins a lot.
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25 minutes ago, Success said:
Oh, I'm sure "90% of unbiased analysts" is a reliable figure based on your exhaustive research.
Allen is the better QB. Period. Sorry to have to inform you of this.
Kelce is slowing down, and he's taking the Mahomes mystique w/ him.
You're denying that the vast majority of analysts think Mahomes is the best QB in the league?
Weird that every program I turn on is discussing his case for GOAT. You should let them know that he's not even the best currently.
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2 minutes ago, Success said:
Some weren't penalties. Cincy AFCCG, Philly in the SB.
Chiefs have benefitted more than most from bad officiating in the biggest games. Sorry 'bout that. And hey - over 90% of football fans agree w/ me.
It's not a penalty to knock a QB to the ground a full two yds out of bounds? Interesting. 🤣
Pretty sure this is a penalty by the rules too:
Which is why it was defended by every rules expert.
Guess this is why armchair refs are armchair refs. Thanks for proving again that this is a BS narrative formed purely out of bitterness.
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6 minutes ago, Success said:
So, a penalty was properly called a penalty.
Thanks for confirming.
Sure. Same for the penalties that non-KC fans have been sobbing about the past 3 yrs.
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3 hours ago, Einstein said:
Let me guess - you think Toney being a foot over the LOS wasn’t Offside?
Sure. It's just something that's almost never called, especially on a WR. First time in Reid's 25 year career and it just happened to wipe out a game-winning TD. Imagine the response had it been the other way around. 😆
But I thought the issue was the fortuitous timing of certain calls. If you'll remember, the KC ref narrative got rolling after the '22 AFCC vs CIN. Do you think knocking a player down two yds out of bounds isn't a penalty?
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34 minutes ago, Success said:
I think that definitely scares Chiefs fans. They think it's "no argument" because of the titles.
As soon as Allen gets one, it won't really be much of a debate anymore, imo. He's the better QB.
Lol. You definitely want it to, but that's not reality.
There's a reason that 90% of unbiased analysts agree with us.
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56 minutes ago, Einstein said:
Teams that cheat the most do tend to have more penalties.
Not the Chiefs, of course.
If you DM me your address, I will pay for this shirt to be sent to you. Consider it a gift from TBD.
Lol. You could make a better case that Buffalo paid the refs in the last two regular season meetings.
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2 minutes ago, Einstein said:
I didn’t say it was made up. I said it’s not a real stat and is from a fan website that aggregates.
Basically it’s as good as the fan who collects the data. Who we don’t know. And have never heard of.
You literally said "it's made up." You have no reason to assume it isn't accurate.
I can tell you, as a KC fan, it doesn't surprise me a bit. I've thought for years that the Chiefs have more nullified TDs than anyone. And I know they were the only team last postseason to have a TD wiped off the board, and it happened twice.
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6 minutes ago, Einstein said:
This isn’t a real stat.
It’s made up (without any way to verify) by an aggregator site that no-one has ever heard of.
Lol. Of course it is. It's all part of the conspiracy.
Proof that it's made up?
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49 minutes ago, stevewin said:
Number of penalties is a completely worthless stat. To do an worthwhile analysis you would need to review the calls in the context of the game - how many were drive/game altering penalties - how many were BS 5 yd holding calls on the defense on 1st down that didn't affect the game at all. And even more importantly as has been noted how many weren't called. Because a team has a lot of penalties doesn't mean that they don't have just as many that aren't called - in fact if they are so undisciplined or looking to get away with penalties (see Taylor lining up wrong or jumping the snap seeming every play) the likelihood is they probably have more that aren't called (and probably are as drive/game changing as penalties that are called)
If the numbers fit your narrative, you wouldn't think they were worthless.
Here's another:
Do you think negated TDs affect the game at all?
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6 hours ago, Kelly to Allen said:
The refs will favor KC and they're still losing by 30 in the AFC championship in Buffalo.
Lol. Wagering with Bills fans seems like it would be a lucrative endeavor.
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9 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:
Its called having hope for your team. We watched the drought years for almost 2 decades. We still watched every week with some hope. Were people just supposed to say "nah we are gonna get creamed" and not bother watching? Stop being so entitled. You'll lose eventually. I think you fans are probably more complacent then your team because you are just used to it. Not saying I wouldn't be the same way but just sayin.
There isn't complacency among the fans. When the rest of the NFL community is itching to throw dirt on you and fabricating narratives to discredit or downplay every success, you don't get complacent. It keeps you hungry.
I wouldn't expect a lot of predictions of a Chiefs win here. What I would expect is predictions of a tight game, rather than a 3-4 score beatdown. If they truly believed the team was crippled by injury, that is.
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19 minutes ago, Ecmic82 said:
That’s a worthless stat. You use the word “disproportionate”, but that’s not even a proportionate stat.
As worthless as the biased opinions of armchair refs?
There are no stats that support the narrative.
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55 minutes ago, Success said:
That's the team we beat by 2 scores last week, right?
I can see how it'd be easy to forget a finish that you replayed 100 times. 😄
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54 minutes ago, Ecmic82 said:
The two teams that spend the most time within these “close situation” parameters have the most penalties against? Really? That’s not insight.
the Chiefs have spent about 234 out of a possible 310 minutes within these parameters. That’s a relatively high ratio. The Colts as well (they’ve played like one game that didn’t end as a one-score game). Since this is a Bills board I’ll use them as an example: they’ve played about 166 minutes out of a possible 330 within the parameters (since the article uses only second half minutes, that’s close to two and a half games less that Kansas City).
Teams that generally play tight games will, generally, have more total flags against them in tight game situations than do teams that play within these situations less often. That article chose to write a narrative in search of a stat. They did it backwards.
Lol. And there it is. You guys really want to believe the conspiracy theory.
If KC consistently benefited disproportionately from calls/no-calls in these situations, as we're told, they wouldn't be #1 in this stat. It's okay to admit the league isn't fixing games for the Chiefs.
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Following up on the ref conspiracy theories...
The myth: The officials favor the Chiefs late in close games.
When the Chiefs began 9-0 with seven wins by a touchdown or less, there were conspiracy theories about referees favoring them. Was the league trying to guide Kansas City to a three-peat? Was the idea that Chiefs wins are good because the league is trying to attract more Swifties to the NFL? Who knows.
Why it's a myth: Looking only at late- and close-game situations (eight points in either direction, second half or overtime) and including both declined and offsetting penalties, the NFL team with the most flags is ... Kansas City. It is tied with the Colts, having 29 penalties in such situations. Only the Jets and Saints have more penalty yards than Kansas City's 218 in late and close situations.
KC fans don't challenge the conspiracy narratives because they're insecure. They challenge them because it's complete nonsense.
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1 minute ago, Johnnycage46 said:
Every single Bills tweet I see that has anything positive about the Bills and zero to do with KC has a KC fan jumping in to make it about KC. KC fans appear very insecure and seem to not be able to let fans of other teams enjoy their own team (ya know, kind of like you coming to a Bills board).
Twitter's full of people who are there just to troll and get reactions. I don't think that's news to anybody.
How am I not letting fans enjoy their team? I haven't said anything negative about the Bills.
I don't think responding to bogus narratives indicates insecurity. Creating bogus narratives indicates insecurity. You won't find me claiming that Buffalo only wins because they're lucky or in the refs' pockets.
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4 hours ago, NewEra said:
Just like every fan base has the same type excuse threads. This is what message boards do. It’s one of the reasons there are only 3 chiefs fans that visit this board. Most fans aren’t so insecure that they have to run to their teams rescue and defend their honor. But apparently there’s are a few that are that insecure
Why would KC fans be insecure?
Let's be real...a Bills fan is the last person who should accuse anyone else of insecurity.
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8 hours ago, Mat68 said:
Kelce went off in the playoffs because Buffalo was without Benard, Milano, Rapp, Douglas. Dodson played through an ankle injury. That was the difference in the game.
Kelce had arguably the best game of his career vs the top defense and LB corps in the NFL the following week. Then followed it with another great game vs an excellent defense and LB corps in the SB.
Kelce having a decent game isn’t exactly proof of inept defense.
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2 hours ago, NewEra said:
Fixed that for ya
I guess it's only fitting that the "Chiefs fan excuses" thread turns into the Bills fan excuses thread.
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10 hours ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:
They didn’t really transform into a completely different team imo I just don’t get where that take is even coming from feels kind of like massive cope to me about the chiefs chances this year. Dropping mid 20s in points against the injury ravaged bills and dolphins defenses then completely shutting down Lamar and beating the ravens with 17 points wasn’t far off from how they were winning regular season games.
They weren't beating good teams in the regular season.
The defense was mostly the same in the playoffs, but the offense was much different. Way more focused and efficient. Very few drops or mistakes.
Massive cope about their chances? A 9-1 team that just lost for the first time in 16 games? Lol. Sounds more like wishful thinking on your part.
KC's LT situation isn't ideal, but it hasn't been the last few years either. Worst-case scenario, Donovan Smith's waiting for a call if needed. He's not perfect, but they already know they can win with him.
A more seasoned Worthy and a Hopkins who knows the playbook will be dangerous weapons by season's end. Add Pacheco and Hollywood Brown, plus Omenihu and (maybe) Watson on defense, and it would be easily the best roster of the last three years. Add that they have a great shot at the 1 seed, and I like their chances just fine.
10 hours ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:lol I think there’s different tiers of ‘injury excuses’…the chiefs missing a corner that’s not even their best and getting exposed in the secondary is exponentially different than the bills losing so many linebackers that aj klein who had been chilling at home for months had to cancel a family rv vacation to start at MLB and missing their best corner on top of that. Literally not even debatable.
just imagine a full strength bills team going against the chiefs down mcduffie,Bolton, tranquil and an extra linebacker of your choice and ask yourself honestly how that playoff game would’ve gone because that’s the chiefs equivalent of what happened to the bills 😂 wouldve been an absolute slaughter. Calling Milano/bernard/benford etc average players is pretty laughable. Terrell Bernard got all pro votes and Matt Milano was an all pro lol
Nazeeh Johnson has been bad in place of Watson. He was picked on relentlessly.
Rice might have been on pace to have the best season of any WR in the league. Hollywood Brown would (will?) have a big impact on this offense. Pacheco's explosiveness has been missed. And having their best edge rusher definitely would have helped in a game in which their front got no pressure.
I'm not using injuries as an excuse, but to pretend that losing those players has little impact is ridiculous.
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8 hours ago, thewookie1 said:
You can preach about how KC suddenly woke up in the playoffs all you want but you can’t do that year after year and expect to win. You can’t assume it will happen again and that all other teams will seemingly get crippled by injuries before you play them in the playoffs while you stay mostly healthy.The "crippled" talk doesn't mesh with your fans' predictions before the game (which you can see in the thread I linked). Why were so many predicting a crippled team to win by 10-30 points?
Supposing the Bills were crippled by injury...what's that got to do with the other 14 postseason games they've won the past six years? Were those teams all crippled?
Mahomes has played in 18 postseason games. He's trailed at the end of regulation exactly once. I think you can safely assume he/they will perform at a high level.
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One reason you can make a valid argument for Mahomes as GOAT is that he's clearly more accomplished at this point of his career than Brady was through 6 seasons. Can't win 7 SBs in 6 years.
"Most" are saying that he's surpassed him? We're talking national analysts right?
Saying that he's had the better season thus far is a lot different than saying he's a better player.