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35 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:
Well now you just sound like a bitter Bills fan masquerading as a Chiefs fan lol.
I don't think any Bills fan with 2 brain cells to rub together (admittedly a high bar) thinks we need an elite defense across the board. We just need one that doesn't get torched in the playoffs.
Imagine if Mahomes had to deal with his defense playing like KC did against the Patriots in the AFCCG every single season. KC DEF forced 2 turnovers, a turnover on downs, and 2 punts against the Pats. That's arguably a BETTER defensive performance than any of the last 4 playoff losses by the Bills.
But you're preaching to the choir, man. KC's defenses have been worse than Buffalo's every year before this one. In both the regular season and postseason. They've allowed 30+ in 5 playoff games and played poorly in several others. As beebe has pointed out, Buffalo's defense has played fine against just about everyone but KC. Allen has the same problem as every other QB in the league. His defense can't shut down KC. Sure, you can talk about the SB in Tampa or the second half vs Cincy a few years ago, but those are outliers.
I see people mention Buffalo's loss to Cincinnati a lot. Do you think Cincinnati's 27 points were the problem, or the 10 pts that the Bills scored? Who are you going to beat in the playoffs with 10 pts? 27 was a pretty average number for that Bengals team. You can't expect to shut down offenses of that caliber, especially in the postseason.
Let me ask you this...prior to this year, how do you think KC's defenses would have fared against their offenses in the playoffs? If there were a way to prove it, I'd bet you any amount you wanted that they'd fare worse than Buffalo has.
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10 minutes ago, Sweats said:
Typical KC fan.....delusional and out of touch with reality.
Kinda just making stuff up to coincide with your own narrative to proclaim the god-like aspects of Mahomo and the Chiefs.
Move along......nothing to see here.
Which parts are delusional?
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19 minutes ago, Jim said:
Yes, the board is probably insecure. Probably having to do with the fact that our team is never gonna win a Super Bowl despite having one of the best QBs around.But anyways, hey Saul, here’s the deal…
If we need you, we’ll call you. Or Walt and Jesse can go and kidnap you. Otherwise, we’re cool! Thanks for your time.Hey, you said it, not me. I think Allen will get at least one along the way. S'all good, man!
2 hours ago, Doc Brown said:As a Chiefs fan, if Reid drafted Allen in 2018 instead of Mahomes in 2017 do you think you guys would have four or five rings by now?
Well, let's see, as a KC fan....Allen was really inaccurate his first couple years....plus, I've learned on this board that he needs an elite defense across the board and elite offensive talent at every position to get it done, so by the board's logic that number would have to be closer to 0?
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43 minutes ago, Jim said:
Do you really get to mock the topics on the board when...uhhh....you're on here contributing to the topics. On, as I mentioned before, a board dedicated to a team you don't like. A week and change after your team won the Super Bowl. I usually don't do this online, cuz it's all just play for the most part, but seriously how miserable can your life be if you need to come to a Buffalo Bills football forum to complain about lack of love on said board for a 28 year old bazillionaire who plays for your team? Like, WHO GIVES A SH!T? Go enjoy your teams success and stop concerning yourself with perceived slights. I know if my team won the Super Bowl, I wouldn't be going to other teams forums doing this. Actually if my team were 0-17 I wouldn't do it either, because once again, WHO THE SH!T cares?!
How miserable do you have to be to get this upset over a few tame posts?
I'm not miserable in the slightest about perceived slights. I was just pointing out the irony of someone calling me insecure, when this entire board has been dripping with insecurity for weeks. What does a KC fan have to be insecure about right now? Mahomes and Reid are now being mentioned in the GOAT conversation (Kelce too), they went back to back in what were supposed to be rebuilding years, and with the right moves, could have their best team ever next year. That's not bragging or rubbing it in....I'm just laughing at the notion that I or KC fans in general are insecure. I'm not sure the fanbase has ever been more secure.
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6 minutes ago, Jim said:
You are just making things up. Nobody is tearing down KC or anything. At the very best, maybe there are some who think the Bills may have had better luck if they had less injuries, but literally nobody thinks KC got "lucky" against the Bills. They've beaten them 3 times in the postseason.
Don't get it twisted....I'm not triggered by anything I've read here. In fact, I'm probably one of the least triggered people on this board, if you've been following the last few weeks.
6 minutes ago, Jim said:This whole "fuel yourself by claiming disrespect*" is an odd product of the 2020s. It's odd. The Chiefs have a dynasty. I don't recall Jordan and the Bulls and their fans claiming disrespect in the '90s, nor do I remember Jeter and the Yankees whining about how nobody gave them the respect the deserved. But then again, we are in an era where both sides of the political divide constantly do their very best to show you how put-upon they are and why you should feel sorry for them. It's this oddly American theme of look how hard the odds were stacked up against me, and how the media hated me, and my mom threw me out on the street, but look at me now. I'm on top.
(NOTE: This isn't really a controversial political opinion since it blatantly exclaims how both sides are so guilty of it!)
Seriously you're just pulling this stuff out of your ass.
Imagine going to the forum of a football team who isn't even your favorite team and wasting your time there. Just.....wow.
This is one of the most annoying things that people say. Why not take it as a compliment to your board that other fans want to post here? You act like I've been posting here hourly for years, or as if no rival fans (including Buffalo fans) post on KC boards.
I generally post on message boards when I need to kill a little time while working at my desk. But I get bored with just a few sites to rotate from, especially if they're low-traffic, so I occasionally seek out others. And this one was interesting to me and has more traffic than most.
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5 hours ago, NewEra said:
No, you’re just an extremely sensitive and over dramatic KC fan that reeks of insecurity. Removing you from ignore for a moment didn’t disappoint.
“it doesn’t seem like any of you” doesn’t = “refer to the other side”. No you were not. You were all emotional and typing while seeing red. ✌️ again
LOL. I'm well aware that there are some Bills fans here that give credit to KC, but whatever you say. The "insecure" comment is funny. Every other thread on here is downplaying the Chiefs' success to prop up your team, whining about alleged media opinions of Allen and the Bills, convincing yourselves that KC only beats the Bills due to luck and/or injuries, freaking out over Nick Wright's latest comment, etc.
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21 minutes ago, 90sBills said:
I obviously don’t pay as much attention to KC as you do. From the way you make it sound FAU must be a bust. Imagine spending a 1st round draft pick and have him not contribute in any meaningful way. That’s bust. Just ‘pointing out facts’.Btw…whenever you respond to a comment with an attack it’s being defensive. Just say you misunderstood my comment. It’s all good.
It wasn't an attack. You're the one being sensitive here. I was just making a point. I'm assuming you don't consider first rounder Elam a luxury, even after two years. And at this point I definitely wouldn't consider FAU a luxury either.
He might ultimately be a bust...who knows. But I think you know that some players take longer, especially when they aren't thrown into the fire right away.
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26 minutes ago, Success said:
You sure about that?
I haven't seen anyone say that since at least prior to last year's SB. I truly doubt that anyone in the national media was talking that way at any point this past season.
Yes, I'm sure. And why would that be so surprising? Don't you guys all think that Allen had a much better season?
26 minutes ago, Success said:I still can't figure out the deal here. Do you really think Mahomes is disrespected in some way? Is that your primary focus one week after winning a 2nd SB, when Mahomes is in every other commercial we see on TV, and many are mentioning "GOAT" when talking about him?
No, I think Mahomes gets a ton of respect from the media. Not so much here, but I get it.
26 minutes ago, Success said:Not enough? You need consensus on a Buffalo Bills board that he's unbeatable and super amazing, and wow, do we wish we had that guy?
I think Bills fans should be plenty content with Allen. Content enough to acknowledge that he isn't disrespected by, frankly, anyone but Nick Wright...who only does it to troll you guys (and very successfully I might add).
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Just now, Success said:
I would love to see a quote from ANYONE in the media claiming he's better right now.
I haven't heard that in well over a year.
I mean, it probably hasn't been said much since the SB, but there were definitely some saying it before the game in Buffalo. And I remember seeing an ESPN graphic that gave Buffalo the edge at QB.
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5 minutes ago, Jim said:
Oh shut the f uck up. Your team just won the Super Bowl and every in the media licks Mahomes nuts. Lay off with the whole "nobody respect my team" thing.
Where did I say anything about the media? But while we're on the subject, virtually everyone in the media licks Allen's balls, and some claim he's the better QB, despite not having near the accomplishments. Yet many of you pull the disrespect card constantly.
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10 minutes ago, 90sBills said:
He didn’t see the field because Omenihu and Dana were tearing it up. My comment was a compliment to the Chiefs organization for having such quality backups. Why are you so defensive? Your team just won back to back. How would you be able to handle losing if you’re this sensitive when winning?Danna had 6.5 sacks and this was easily his best season. He's not going to keep a really productive player off the field. FAU just wasn't ready for meaningful snaps. Even with Omenihu out, he only saw the field on 9% of snaps.
I wouldn't say I'm being very sensitive. Just pointing out facts. I'd say this board is a heck of a lot more sensitive to KC fans than I am to any post or poster.
I just find it comical that KC's roster sucked prior to the game in Buffalo, but suddenly Mahomes is surrounded by all pros at every position.
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10 minutes ago, 90sBills said:
Omenihu is third in sacks behind Jones and Karlaftis. That’s despite missing 6 games due to suspension. He was one of their big offseason acquisition. Definitely more than depth. Somehow they had a 1st round pick to replaced him in the Superbowl. Why can’t Bills have that kind of luxury? Smh.That's like saying that Elam is a luxury for the Bills. KC's first round pick barely played this year and isn't ready to contribute meaningfully.
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6 hours ago, st pete gogolak said:
Now you’re just making stuff up. New England played mediocre during the regular season and “turning it up” post season? Pal, you came to the wrong forum to peddle that. We watched twenty years of NE pound, not only us, but the whole AFC East during the regular season. Pounded pretty much everyone in the league during the regular season. Maybe they had an off game against KC once but they absolutely did not coast during the regular season. I figured someone would make the pitch that Mahomes “turned it up a notch” in the playoffs. Like game against Ravens (17 points) or regulation against the 49ers (one TD in regulation on a short field)?
First of all, mediocre is relative. And I added "stretches"...not necessarily entire seasons of mediocre play. Sometimes they would stumble out of the gate for a month or so. In 2014, NE started 2-2 with two double digit losses, including a 41-14 loss in Arrowhead in which Alex Smith's Chiefs made them look like the worst team in the league. They went on to win the SB. In 2018, they lost to several mediocre teams, including three blowouts. Went on to win the SB.
6 hours ago, st pete gogolak said:Look, Mahomes is great. Certainly one of the all time greats. No one is disputing that. The point I’m trying to make is that the Bills defense in the playoffs against KC and the Bengals has been very, very bad. Mahomes and Burrow didn’t have to play Superman in any of those games to come out winners. Proof? Look no further than 13 seconds. Possibly the worst coaching job in the history of the NFL (not exaggerating). First play was a dump off to Hill that literally every QB in the league would have completed. Next play was a seam pass to a wide open Kelce. Nothing extraordinary. Contrast that with Bengals second half D in AFC title game that they won. Brilliant strategy brilliantly executed. Not sure why any of this is up for argument.
What? Mahomes' defense allowed 36 points in that game. I'll agree that there was nothing special about the throws at the end of regulation, except for the fact that there was a hell of a lot of pressure not to screw up with 13 seconds left in your season. And the fact that Mahomes is a perfect 7 of 7 in those situations in the playoffs. I'd say that's kinda special.
Let's talk about some of Allen's throws. Was there anything special about throwing to a WIDE open Gabe Davis multiple times as DBs were falling down or blowing coverages? There's a pretty blatant double standard here. When Allen throws to a guy with no DB within a mile, he's Superman. When Mahomes does it, it's nothing.
Mahomes had to be almost perfect in that game to get the win. Completed 75% of his passes, 447 total yds, 4 TDs, averaged 10 yards per run, punted once against the #1 rated defense. The Bills punted 4 times vs a mediocre defense, and people act like Allen had to be perfect while Mahomes had a huge margin for error.
You guys say that Mahomes' defense always steps up in the playoffs while Allen's does the opposite, and yet....36 points to the Bills, 35 points to the Eagles, 37 to NE, 31 to Tampa, 31 to Houston, 27 to Cincy, and others in the mid 20s. If Mahomes' defense actually did consistently step up in the postseason, he may have never lost a postseason game. And imagine KC's regular season records if the defenses didn't stink it up so often throughout the year.
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2 hours ago, The Jokeman said:
Here's the 7 guys the Chiefs had on the IR that missed their playoff game against the Bills.
Bryan Cook 13 starts in 28 NFL games
Prince Tega Wanogho 0 starts in 23 NFL games
Nazeeh Johnson 0 starts in 11 NFL games
Jody Fortson 1 NFL start in 19 NFL games
Gerrit Prince 0 NFL games, was on their practice squad
Jerick McKinnon 18 starts in 116 NFL games, 0 starts in 42 games with the Chiefs
Cam Jones 1 start in 17 NFL games
They may have missed some guys but I wouldn't say they were as significant as the guys we lost.
Like the other poster mentioned, KC lost 3 more starters in the playoffs, including an all pro guard and their best edge rusher. Also, they were without Mike Edwards vs the Bills.
And it's disingenuous to judge all those players by starts. McKinnon wasn't the starting RB, but he had 10 TDs in 2022.
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41 minutes ago, Success said:
Kind of laughed at the bolded. There are so many posts on this board that are borderline worshipful of KC. KC gets too much praise on here, imo. Even a KC-hater like me gives them credit for what they have accomplished, and praises Mahomes frequently. He's one of my favorite QB's to watch, though after his meltdown in the regular I lost some respect for him.
And I'd reiterate: this actually is a BILLS board. There is an astounding amount of KC talk and praise just considering that alone. You want more? I wouldn't expect to go to a KC board & see overflowing praise for the Bills or Allen. In fact, after our exchange, I went over to the Planet just to see if it had changed, and saw many more posts calling Allen & the Bills chokers and saying they weren't a real threat in the AFC.
Yeah, there's definitely a contingent here who give KC plenty of credit. I was referring to the other side.
I don't consider it praise to just give a little credit to the opponent. I think the Chiefs' defense was terrible in the 13 seconds game, but I can acknowledge that Allen and the Bills had quite a bit to do with it. Same with the 35 allowed to the Eagles last year, etc.
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8 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
It really doesn't happen all the time. That is a narrative that Chiefs fans have written to fot their agenda.
How would you know that? Are you actually studying the feet of WRs on every play of every game?
I've seen numerous screenshots of players that were further offside than Toney and it wasn't called. Like I said, it was only called a couple times all year, and it just happened to erase THAT play in that moment. You can't seriously claim that Bills fans wouldn't consider that unlucky if it had happened to them.
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On 2/17/2024 at 8:22 AM, beebe said:
On what planet isn't it comparable? The Bills had almost every single player on offense available. All five starting offensive linemen, all their running backs, Josh Allen, all their tight ends, and every receiver except for Gabe Davis—and most of us think the offense has run better with Davis off the field. In fact, his absence helped Shakir get more snaps, and Shakir finished with a team-best 7 catches. So the Bills were down Davis on offense, while the Chiefs were down Toney (sucks), Moore (decent but mostly sucks), McKinnon (great weapon for KC) and lost Thuney (All Pro) in the third quarter. Nothing to really write home about for either team on offense.
Defensively, after the first series, the Chiefs were without starting safety Mike Edwards and starting linebacker Willie Gay. They began the game without starting DT Derrick Nnadi. Their original starting safety Bryan Cook (Edwards is a backup) was injured a month earlier.
Buffalo had its entire defensive line available to play. They had their two starting safeties Hyde and Poyer who played every snap. Taron Johnson, Rasul Douglas and Dane Jackson all played 100% of the snaps. Yes, the Bills lost Tre White early season—but his loss necessitated the trade for Douglas who gave them better play than White was giving them. So 9 to 10 of the Bills' defensive regulars on defense played to capacity, and 10 (arguably 11) of their best offensive players played. Buffalo had access to 19 or 20 of their 22 best players overall. If you read this forum, you'd think they played with about six healthy players.
The biggest loss was obviously Bernard, which led to Klein being on the field, who the Chiefs targeted repeatedly. But again, the collective absences - clustered as they were - weren't what many here make them out to be. The Bills began the week as 2.5 point favorites and finished the week as 2.5 point favorites. There is such a thing as building roster depth and developing young players who can perform when needed.
If being without Terrel Bernard and a couple replacement level defensive backups is enough to tank your season, then you weren't very good to begin with.
The Chiefs replaced DT Nnadi with a heavier dose of journeyman Mike Pennel (signed off the street midseason) and Matt Dickerson (undrafted, journeyman, practice squad regular); they gave Willie Gay's snaps to offseason signing Dru Tranquill (most snaps he had since Week 12) and LB Leo Chenal (3rd round pick in his second year.) They gave safety Edwards' snaps to fourth-round rookie Chamarri Conner, who played 99% of snaps and actually performed great. Thuney was replaced by Nick Allegretti, the try-hard backup who was a former 7th-round pick. Outside of Kelce and Rice, Mahomes was throwing balls to MVS, Noah Gray, Mecole Hardman, Justin Watson and Clyde Edwards. The degree of difficulty wasn't exactly high! It is without question the worst collection of offensive talent the Bills will face in the next several years when going against the Chiefs. And yet, the Chiefs offense did what the Chiefs offense did in prior playoff meetings vs the Bills — even when the Bills were fully healthy, even when the Bills had top-5 level defenses — they ran circles around them.
Agreed. Bills would not have been 2.5 point favorites if they were as depleted as the fanbase claims. Like you said, Bernard was a pretty big loss and KC took advantage. Just like the Bills took advantage of bums like Sorenson and Niemann in the 13 seconds game, and DBs falling down or blowing assignments every other play.
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9 hours ago, GunnerBill said:
I agree with most of this but there was nothing random or unlucky about the flag on Toney. A bad player, made a bad play. All of these games between the two teams are now coming down to either a bad player making a mistake or a good player making a great play.
Nothing random or unlucky? Come on, man. It was literally the first time that had been called in Arrowhead in 25 years and the first time in Andy Reid's entire career. Also, he'd been lining up that way the entire game and they looked the other way until that moment, which just happened to erase a classic play that likely would have won the game. That's the very definition of horrible luck.
The reason they started calling offensive offside occasionally this year was due to linemen using it to gain an advantage in the "tush push." The new level of enforcement wasn't intended for WRs. Which is why it was only called on a WR a couple times all year, and they looked the other way at receivers lining up offside every week. Happens all the time.
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8 minutes ago, st pete gogolak said:
Is this supposed to refute my post? Not sure I'm following. Is your point that Bills' D plays really well in the regular season and really well in the post-season against everyone except Mahomes? My point is that the D plays poorly in the post-season in general (except for one game) and especially poorly against the Chiefs. Second point is that Bills D against Chiefs in regular season is pretty decent and in the post-season mind-numbingly bad. Not sure how you can refute that given the regular and post-season stats.
Playoff Chiefs, and Mahomes in particular, are a different animal than the regular season Chiefs. The Patriots were the same way. They'd have a mediocre regular season or stretches of bad play, and then flip the switch in the postseason and take another trophy. Mahomes is on a different level of focus when it gets real. I remember when the Alex Smith Chiefs blew out two really good Patriots teams in the regular season. Like, annihilated them. But guess who was hoisting the trophy in the end while the Chiefs were one and done?
If a KC fan were to view the 13 seconds game as a product of poor defense, would you feel slighted? Doesn't seem like any of you will give credit to a team that's had one of the most successful stretches in NFL history, particularly offensively. And you could certainly make the case that defense was mostly responsible for that, as if you take away just the one instance of the DB falling down on 4th and forever, it's probably a comfortable win for KC.
And what no one ever mentions is that KC's defense hasn't been stellar in the regular season OR playoffs until this year. 37 pts allowed in the loss to NE in '18. The next year they allowed an average of 25 ppg and 31 vs the Texans. Including a 24-0 hole early in the game. Gave up 31 vs Tampa in the SB. 36 to the Bills in 21. 27 to Cincy the next week. 35 vs Philly in the SB.
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3 hours ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:
It's a very toxic place.
I used to hang out on the board and would read where chiefs fans would wish other chiefs fans mothers would get gang raped or catch aids or swallow acid over a disagreement.
So no its not just a product of "poor moderating".
Chiefs fans in general are uneducated and one of the lowest class fans.
I suspect that's why so many chiefs fans are here. They dont want to hang out with other lowlife chiefs fans and experience such vitriol.
This board is at least civilzed.
So when they tell someone to catch AIDS, you think they mean it?
Like I said, some of them have a crude and twisted sense of humor, but it's obviously not meant to be taken too seriously.
Kansas is above average in terms of education and Missouri is around average. KC is a pretty educated city. The less refined or trashy posters you come across are probably from Jackson County. The Kansas side tends to be more refined. But in many cases it's just schtick and they'd probably be perfectly respectful and friendly in person. Generalizing an entire region and fanbase based on a few message board posts is pretty silly.
If someone took the same approach to judging your fanbase, they'd say you're all unrefined table jumpers who hurl dildos and finger buttholes in the stands. 😆
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9 hours ago, Success said:
For the record, I don't equate that board w/ Chiefs fans in general. From my own encounters, they're like any other fans. And I've always liked KC (in the past) because they were similar to Buffalo in some ways (small market, not a great playoff history, etc.) Though, I certainly do not like them now.
Chiefs Planet is more of a product of poor moderating. You're sugarcoating the tone of that board. It's a notorious board in NFL fandom, as you should know, since you seem to have a proclivity for visiting opposing team's boards.
I can definitely see your side. I just think these things tend to get exaggerated. Such as claiming that a bunch of people there hope for injuries. I don't think that's the case at all.
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9 hours ago, CincyBillsFan said:
You can absolutely say that Allen's has been at a disadvantage versus the Chiefs during the last "few years" if you define "few" as 3 years.
By few, I meant two. I'd agree that having Kelce and Hill together was an advantage. But the Bills' defense was #1 that year and KC's was average at best, with some huge weak spots like Sorenson and Niemann (which Allen and the Bills feasted upon). Also, Diggs and Knox were no slouches, and "Big game Gabe" had FOUR TDs in the 13 seconds game. You guys talk about KC players stepping up in big games, but I don't remember anyone stepping up like that. Mahomes' defense consistently crapped the bed that night, including DBs falling down at the most inopportune times (one left Davis wiiiiiiide open on a 4th and long desperation play). And his normally excellent kicker missed two easy kicks.
9 hours ago, CincyBillsFan said:* During the 2021 season the Chiefs had Kelsey AND Hill, and Andy Reid, enough said.
* During the 2022 season the Chiefs had Andy Reid and one of the top 3 rated offensive lines in the NFL the Bills had one of the worst, enough said.
* During the 2023 season for the first time in Allen's career he had similar talent as Mahomes on the O line & among his skill players. And the Bills beat the Chiefs during the regular season, finished ahead of them to gain home field advantage in the playoffs and then only lost the game when their FG kicker missed a 44 yard kick in the last 2 minutes. Oh and Mahomes still had Andy Reid as coach AND a championship caliber defense.
You're just highlighting things that the Bills didn't have, while not mentioning what they did have or what KC didn't. It's hard to argue that KC's offensive talent was better than Buffalo's in 2022. A wash at best. Bills were better basically everywhere but TE and interior OL. And the interior OL wasn't/isn't even particularly good at run blocking. KC's tackles were both pretty bad. Mahomes made them look much better than they were.
And to say they had similar talent this year is silly. KC had one good WR, who didn't really emerge until late. The rest were a disaster. To the point they had to healthy scratch two players who were expected to play large roles this year out of fear that they'd screw something up. The receiving corps was a national punchline all year long. Gabe Davis would have been the best Chiefs WR before Rice's emergence, and he was Buffalo's 5th or 6th best receiving weapon. Bills had two good TEs (one very talented). KC had one, and he started to show his age. Buffalo had a weaker interior OL but much better tackles. Like the year before, Mahomes made the tackles look better than they were. And Cook is arguably better than Pacheco. Regardless, their ground game was more consistently effective.
I very much doubt that Allen would have had a lot of success in KC's offense this year.
Also, you can't reduce the playoff game to a missed kick (by a kicker who was 2/5 in the postseason) while neglecting to mention that you won the game in KC due to one of the luckiest and most random flags ever.
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17 minutes ago, Success said:
I've been to a lot of boards. It stands alone - most seem to agree on that from what I've seen.
It was MUCH more than "some vulgarity." I saw so many posts wishing for injury of opposing players. It was dark.
Again, I think you probably took a lot of it too seriously. I doubt that anyone actually hoped for an injury. If so, it was probably the one or two bad apples that you'll find anywhere.
I will admit that some of them have a twisted sense of humor though.
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10 minutes ago, Success said:
Chiefs Planet is a toxic place. I went there a few times around the 13 seconds game. Will not go back.
There's some vulgarity, but that's not exactly uncommon on the internet these days. And a lot of it is schtick that people take way too seriously.
Forums are always judged by the loudest voices, but it's silly to generalize a board with so many posters. If somebody goes there to actually talk football respectfully, you'll have a few telling you to go eff yourself, but plenty will oblige.
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Allen needs to mentally overpower Mahomes
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Again, I'm not triggered by anything here and I'm obviously not expecting to see lavish praise for KC or Mahomes. I just think there are some silly narratives floating around. Before the game in Buffalo, the prevailing opinion seemed to be that the Bills had the advantage at most positions and would win comfortably, and then go on to win the SB. People were saying the Bills had rounded into form and were playing at an elite level. After the game, the narrative immediately changed to "Mahomes has way more talent around him and Andy Reid, so of course he should have won."