UKBillFan

Only a one year deal. Is that usual for a punter?

As you mentioning drafting, ours has been pretty good since the McBeane era began: 2022: Six of eight retained on 2022 roster - Elam, Cook, Bernard, Shakir, Benford and Spector. Planned to be seven. Tenuta picked up from waivers by Colts. 2021: Six of eight retained on 2022 roster - Rousseau, Basham Jnr., Brown, Doyle, Stevenson and Hamlin. Wildgoose picked up from PS by Jets in 2021, then Commanders via waivers in 2022. J Anderson picked up from PS by Eagles in 2021, then Giants via waivers in 2022. 2020: Five of seven retained on 2022 roster - Epenesa, Moss, Davis, Bass and Jackson. Hodgins on PS. Fromm was picked up from PS by Giants in 2021, but has since been cut and is a free agent. 2019: Five of eight retained on 2022 roster - Oliver, Singletary, Knox, J Johnson and Sweeney. Ford was traded to the Cardinals this year; Vosean Joseph plays in the CFL for the Tiger-Cats and Darryl Johnson is with the Seahawks. 2018: Four of eight retained on 2022 roster - Allen, Edmunds, Johnson and Neal. Phillips is with the Vikings, Teller is with the Browns, McCloud is with the 49ers and Proehl is a free agent after being released by the Giants earlier this month. 2017: Three of six retained on 2022 roster - White (PUP), Dawkins and Milano. Jones is with the Jaguars, Peterman was cut by the Bears yesterday and Vallejo is with the Cardinals. So out of the 45 draft picks selected under McBeane, 29 are on the current 53 man roster or listed on the PUP, one is on the Practice Squad (so three quarters of the picks are still with the Bills), ten are playing elsewhere in the NFL, one is playing in the Canadian Football League and four are currently free agents, though we planned to have one of those on the roster for 2022. Maybe this is nothing out of the ordinary but, to me, I’d say that’s an exceptionally good success rate.

You'd think so. It's a week to opening game tomorrow; it'd be nice to get a punter signed within the next 24 hours.

Perhaps Martin is asking too much considering the cap space. Maybe we'll move on to Berry, Long, Newsome etc.

Honestly? Lost the will to live.

Though, as said earlier (on another thread?) would Martin have travelled to Buffalo without knowing we'd meet the lowest offer he'd accept?

Gabriel Davis, Isiaiah McKenzie, Ed Oliver, Dane Jackson...

If that's what we're doing then I bow to McBeane - great move.

You'll have to narrow it down a bit - Ricky Martin, Steve Martin, Max Martin, Chris Martin, Todd Martin, George RR Martin...?

Think there was something like 0.6 yards between his stats with the Lions and the Broncos.

Isn't it like the draft where each team claims then it goes back to the start? Or is it each team gets to claim everyone they want at the same time? Sorry, this is the first time I've followed pre-season this closely!

Fours years younger than Kern as well (yes, I know he doesn’t want to come here!)

Kromer would be instrumental in who was cut from the 53 I would imagine, as far as the O-Line goes. Agreed, McDermott and Beane make the final call on draft and trades and I doubt they can please all of the people all of the time.

You think McDermott and Beane make the decisions alone then tell the co-ordinators to get on with it?

Who’ll punt? Guess we could go for it on every fourth down!

Fair point - would be more than happy with Martin if it is him.

Depends how much he wants. We’re not going to splash out heavily on a punter.

Home town guy, Sabres fan, potential Super Bowl winners needing a punter and he’d still prefer to hang around as a cast off in Tennessee? Fair enough, we move on.

Chrisman’s only benefit is his age. Question marks have to hang over him considering he’s been bouncing around practice squads (Bengals twice and Steelers once) since he joined the NFL.

Maybe it’s slight delusion but I’m hopeful that a veteran punter, such as Kern or Berry, will need less time to adjust than a rookie.

Thought the latest report was that he should be fit for the Rams. Only thing is if we’re going to put someone else on IR and bring him back. Perhaps he was the one chosen to go through that as he’s not as engrained with the Bills as Hart whilst I think I’m right in saying Sweeney, Lewis and McCloud would all go through waivers, so there was a risk that someone else would pick them up.

So why cut Mancz? That’s the interesting one.

“Survival of the fittest ain’t even a thing anymore … Survival of the most liked… 🤣“

If Stevenson is injured I don’t think we could cut him? Wouldn’t we have had to give him a roster place then move him to IR today to free it up? That’s not to say McBeane love him for so unfathomable reason so wouldn’t have moved him on anyway.

Day after the night before (in the U.K. at least) and still baffled by a handful of the choices. I guess we’ll have to see how the next couple of days pan out with pick up free agents and those on waivers but the cutting of Howard and Mancz bothers me the most, as they’re better than who we have kept - not that that’s saying much in terms of Howard! I’m hopeful than Mancz might be down to roster tinkering so we can put someone on IR, and we’ll sign him back today; or at least get another Centre through the door. Same, if I’m honest, at TE. Dodson’s social media post, if legitimate, may be unprofessional but it appears accurate for now.