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Roster Support over the past three years (Beane)
Cray51 replied to Virgil's topic in The Stadium Wall
Thanks for the callout, I meant to do an FA review but it's incredibly time consuming. I'll address it in a shorter form. If I look at the last three offseasons, here are the key acquisitions made by the Chiefs/Ravens/Bills by year 2023: Bills: Damian Harris - Bust Connor McGovern - Great pickup Latavius Murray - Meh Poona Ford - Bust Taylor Rapp - Meh Trent Sherfield - Bust David Edwards - Good Deonte Hardy - Bust Overall - Meh. The team had Diggs/Davis at this time, and wanted to protect Allen. They did secure 40% of their O-line for the next 3 seasons with this class, but not much else. 3 guys still on roster Ravens: Beckham - Meh Nelson Agholor - Bust Geno Stone - Good Clowney - Good Van Noy - GREAT Darby - Bust Rock Ya Sin - Bust Laquan Treadwell - Bust Overall - Van Noy was a huge find, Geno Stone was a one year wonder, and Clowney was as well. One guy still on the roster in Van Noy Chiefs: Drue Tranquill - Good Bryan Cowert - Bust Mike Edwards - Meh Jawaan Taylor - Meh Charles Omenihu - Good Overall - Decent. Tranquill was a good find, Taylor has been their RT for a while, Omenihu is decent. 3 players still with team 2023 OVERALL: No one really sticks out. The Bills did a nice job bringing in O-line starters, who ran a top 5 group last year. Nothing else really stands out 2024: Bills: Samuel - Bust Ty Johnson - good (was a midseason pickup in 2023 but counting here) Mack Hollins - Meh Morrow - Bust Will Clapp - Bust Casey Toohill - Bust Overall - bad class. A lot of nothing, but this was considered the transition year eating Digg's contract Ravens: Henry - GREAT Josh Jones - Bust Chris Board - Bust Overall - Henry was a major get. Helped the offense a TON. Otherwise, nothing Chiefs: Marquise Brown - Meh Irv Smith - Bust Juju - Meh Overall - Brown and Juju are fine, but replacement level players for KC 2024 OVERALL: Ravens win with Henry, but again, not a ton here. Some depth guys. Brown has been ok for KC, Samuel as bust for the Bills I wont go into 2025 yet, too early in the year. Again, the theme here is these top teams focus most of their assets in drafted, developing, and retaining talent. In FA, each team has obtained 3-4 starters out of the 22 possible players on the field, but other than Henry, no one that's really top top end. Van Noy/Tranquill/McGovern/Edwards have been good finds that have helped their teams, but other than that, it's a lot of bleh or straight up crappy. -
Roster Support over the past three years (Beane)
Cray51 replied to Virgil's topic in The Stadium Wall
Sure, it paces to 1000 yards on the dot too. However, There are still questions around Worthy and his ability to be healthy and handle the wear and tear of a full 17 game season. He already missed 3 games this year, and is averaging under 50 yards in the full games he has played. -
Roster Support over the past three years (Beane)
Cray51 replied to Virgil's topic in The Stadium Wall
Worthy before the backups were playing for Philly was 2 catches for 9 yards. He had 149 receiving yards and 6 catches after Philly stopped playing any defensive starters and the game was 34-0 He was 13 catches for 139 yards over 2.5 games prior to Philly not caring. Credit to him for beating up on Philly's backups, but he was a non-factor when the game mattered. Worthy is a decent receiver right now who get way overhyped for being a strong gadget guy at the goalline and having great speed. He still doesn't generate natural separation against NFL corners. The Chiefs make him work, that doesn't mean he is an incredible player. Hence as a late first, he is an ok pick for the spot. If he can be a 1100 yard 10 TD threat, then he is a great pick for the spot. He isn't anywhere close to that right now -
Bills have an open roster spot, who will fill it? Wrong answers only
Cray51 replied to Roundybout's topic in The Stadium Wall
Zach Ertz Finally, the Bills get who they've wanted to go after for years -
Walker is a monster, a bit of a unicorn with his size and agility. If he can continue to take advantage of the guards and centers setting the line on run plays and use his lateral agility (which is other world) to shed and tackle, he will be a first and second down staple. if he learns to shed and collapse the pocket through the middle? He is an every down player. at 21 years old? This was a swing for the fences pick that has shown great return so far
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Singletary. Averaged 5.1 a carry as a rookie sharing with Gore. Similar to Walker producing and ramping up over the fast half of the year.
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Roster Support over the past three years (Beane)
Cray51 replied to Virgil's topic in The Stadium Wall
I compared the last three drafts (not the current season, too soon) of Buffalo compared to a few other teams who have been in similar situations as the Bills (Division winners since 2020, high end QB). That pretty much leaves Baltimore and Kansas City. And with that, Baltimore had a few down years (21-22 and 22-23). Bills: Draft Picks: 2024: Coleman - Meh so far Bishop - Meh so far Carter - Bust Davis - Meh Van-Prager - Bust Ulofisho - Bust Solomon - Bust Grable - Unknown (they like him a lot) Hardy - Bust Clayton - Bust No standout talent Ravens: 2024: Wiggins - Good Rosengarten - Meh Isaac - Bust Walker - Bust Tampa - Meh (bad year so far) Ali - Bust Leary - Bust Samac - Bust Kane - Bust KC: 2024: Worthy - Meh/Good (He has had big games, but his career stats are almost EXACTLY like Colemans') Kingsley - Meh Wiley - Bust Hicks - Meh Nourzad - Meh Hadden - Bust Hanson - Bust 2024 Summary: None of the teams hit on a stud in this draft. Worthy has shown a flash or two, but the production doesnt match the way some speak of him here. Wiggins is probably the best player of the group to date. No superstars or even stars out of the group yet (maybe Wiggins, but I'd say that's a stretch) 2023: Bills: Kincaid - Meh/Good (Trending well but injured frequently) Torrence - Good (Maybe really good) Williams - Meh Shorter - Bust Broeker - Bust Austin - Bust for the Bills, Meh pick overall Ravens: Flowers - Good Simpson - Good Robinson - Meh Kelly - Bust Laulu - Bust Vorehees - meh KC: Uzomah - Bust Rice - Good Morris - Bust Conners - Meh (decent player though) Thompson - Bust Coburn - Bust Jones - Bust 2023 Summary: Again, all similar results to date. Baltimore with probably the best results, but you could argue the Bills have had two legit impact players on their offense in Kincaid and Torrence. KC with the worst draft of the group, Uzomah was a massive bust 2022 Draft: Bills: Elam: Bust Cook - Great Bernard - Good Shakir - Good Araiza - Good (Bust for Bills) Benford - Good Tenuta - Bust Spector - Bust Ravens: Hamilton - Great Linderbaum - Good Ojabo - Bust Jones - Good Faalele - Meh Armour-Davis - Bust Kolar - Bust Stout - Good Likely - Good Williams - Bust Badie - Bust KC: McDuffie - Great Karlaftis - Good Moore - Bust Cook - Good Chenal - Good Williams - Good Kinnard - Bust Watson - Meh Pacheco - Meh Johnson - Bust Summary: Really strong draft year. Baltimore really lucked into Hamilton this season, the fact that he fell is crazy. Elam bust stick out, but the Bills had a really strong rest of the draft. Overall, I'd say all three teams had a great draft - hard to differentiate impact. Overall summary - None of the teams have been head or shoulders above the others over the past three drafts (22-24). Each team have had their share of hits (McDuffie, Hamilton, Cook), and their share of busts (Uzomah, Elam). If you try to compare the Bills draft to any other teams, they tend to have picked much earlier than them from 2020-2025, which drastically impacts the results. At the end of the day, if you are upset with the Bills draft results from the past few years, you could be a fan of KC or Baltimore and saying the exact same thing. I'll need to cover FA in another post -
Can everyone just take a freakin breath?
Cray51 replied to transplantbillsfan's topic in The Stadium Wall
Would have been a bad hire. daboll is not a good HC. -
A Few Thoughts about the Falcons Game - Community Edition
Cray51 replied to Virgil's topic in The Stadium Wall
How did I think Rice was a 5th? My apologies I totally thought he was a 5th. They also never traded a first for an established player like Diggs, but recently they did use an additional 2nd compared to Beane. -
A Few Thoughts about the Falcons Game - Community Edition
Cray51 replied to Virgil's topic in The Stadium Wall
I think 1) Brady isn't using as much motion pre snap so the defense is disguised better and 2) Allen is overthinking and overcommunicating to the line which is leading to breakdowns. I understand Allen trying to learn the pre snap reads and grow that part of his game. However, at some point he needs to settle down and let the play calls operate naturally -
A Few Thoughts about the Falcons Game - Community Edition
Cray51 replied to Virgil's topic in The Stadium Wall
KC hasn't made every effort. They have spent nearly the same on the WR position as Buffalo Worthy - Coleman - within 5 picks of each other Rice - Shakir - both 5th round picks Hollywood Brown - Palmer - FA signings Hopkins - Cooper - Vet acquisitions That's not a strong argument that Buffalo hasn't done the right thing in their offensive personnel. Choosing the wrong players is one argument, but the allocation of resources has been nearly identical. -
A Few Thoughts about the Falcons Game - Community Edition
Cray51 replied to Virgil's topic in The Stadium Wall
Allen is a GREAT QB, an all timer, but there are a few instances in his career where he goes into these short spurts of poor play. they aren't as frequent as 2019-2021, but they still occur. I hold him to a standard because he is the leader of the team and he has shown levels of play where he has been steps above. There are legitimate issues with this team, I find most of them to sit on Babich with his system that obviously is not working for the team. However, Allen has been an issue the past two games. I haven't liked his body language, he is late to alert on the line, and is jumping out of clean pockets. The NFL is evolving to stop HIM, as he is the MVP and that caliber. He needs to be better because he is the best in the world. -
A Few Thoughts about the Falcons Game - Community Edition
Cray51 replied to Virgil's topic in The Stadium Wall
Every player needs to own their part, and Allen was a major issue last night. -
10/13/2025 Bills at Falcons - 1st half game thread
Cray51 replied to BuffaloBill's topic in The Stadium Wall
I think it has to be a hip wrap and drag, and I think this was more a grab and drag. Do I make sense there? either way it sucks
