Milanos Milano
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Just now, Governor said:
Evans could be available kinda maybe.
Yeah, like I said earlier Hopkins/Evans are the type of receivers that would elevate our team. The thing with Evans though, is he has an even higher cap hit. I don’t know if we can make that work, it’s even harder than making Hopkins work.
2 minutes ago, Patrick Duffy said:That's where the negotiation comes in. If a 2nd pick is traded (for example), then that would require AZ to eat some of that money. If something like a 4th-5th round pick then likely they would take on less or any of that money.
If that is indeed what is going with all this, but your guess is good as mine
I’ve been thinking about this the whole last few days. I just can’t honestly think of a decent reason to explain the hold up. I understand the negotiation stand point, but it’s really just splitting hairs. Nobody is really going to care either way, I mean sure some fans will initially be sour about the compensation, but they will get over it when we are the greatest show on Earth this season.
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3 minutes ago, Patrick Duffy said:
Speaking for myself, I can't really argue with you here either. I would do 2nd rounder if needed especially (JMO) this draft doesn't really look very impressive to me. But yeah, also if giving a 2nd rd pick I'd assume that would mean AZ eats some of that money.
It’s honestly so hard to gauge what is going on behind the scenes, because there is virtually little information out there. I have no idea what AZ is even asking for. But if I’m Beane, I’m trying to do what I can to land him, because this is probably the best chance to win a super bowl.
Think about it, our main problem down the stretch was Diggs not getting targets and thusly moving the ball down the field. He was often times doubled, and Davis couldn’t win his matchups enough to breakthrough. We have done nothing this offseason to address this #1 issue. Because it is an issue, we can’t just run it back going into the season and expecting better results, that would be a sign of a GM that just doesn’t get it.
Let’s just say Beane decides not to trade for Hopkins but instead takes a WR in round 1 in the draft. How much is is honestly going to play considering how reluctant McD is with playing rookies? Let’s say we draft one and he puts up 800 yards this season (fairly reasonable for a rookie), is that enough to win the arms race against KC/Cinci? We don’t really have the time at the moment to wait for a WR to develop into a 1B unless we are absolutely positive a 1B is going to be there at #27.
Hopkins is an immediate 1B option with ample 1,000 yard seasons and he still commands double teams regularly. These are solid numbers despite not playing with a WR or Diggs caliber.
For me it’s a no brainer, go get Hopkins and head into the draft and dedicate it for the oline and a LB.
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Just now, Buffalo03 said:
I think it's a mix of both, compensation and the fact that the team trading for him wants them to eat about half of his salary and the Cardinals are refusing
Even if AZ won’t eat the salary, we should still do it. Make room if we have too, we can, I’ve played around with cap numbers. It would likely mean moving on from Oliver and a few more restructures but it’s doable. There is no one else that is realistically to be had of Hopkins caliber. Who is going to care if we have to cut a bunch of people in 2024 if we don’t have room for any more restructures if we win a super bowl this season? Nobody.
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I mean why are we even playing these silly argumentative value games? If AZ is asking for a 2nd rounder, do it, make it a 2024 if you have to. Just do it. If we don’t land Hopkins, who is realistically available to be had at roughly the same talent level? OBJ? Jeudy? All of them are going to take cap hits and maybe even some picks (Jeudy). I’d rather have Hopkins anyways, because he has a higher double team rate per snap. He’s also never play along side a talent like Diggs, and OBJ has (Kupp) and he still couldn’t breakout.
It’s Hopkins or Bust, just make it happen, nobody is going to care about some draft pick when we win a super bowl this year.
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50 minutes ago, Playoffs? said:
Come on Beane!!! Give your franchise QB what he needs. And for the love of God, don’t let the Chiefs beat you in the offseason.
This times a million. I feel like I’m talking to a wall in here, so glad there are others like you that understand it. Why is this so hard? Just do it, even if we have to compromise to AZ’s demands. There is no solid reason why we can’t make this work.
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2 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said:
*rEgrESsion*
Wasting Josh Allen’s talents. Not getting Hopkins when he is available would be a crime. Come on Beane, do it!
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2 minutes ago, Patrick Duffy said:
I fully agree with you that offense needs more.......but everyone has to agree.
So if Hopkins doesn't work out and Beane ends up getting (for ex.) Jeudy instead...I assume since for you it's Hopkins or else ,in your opinion he should still be fired.?
I can accept Jeudy as a consolation prize, at least it means Beane understands the issues.
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16 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said:
Let me get this straight.
You posted about liking Breece Hall and Tariq Woolen on a message board and that makes you infallible in comparison to a NFL executive of the year winner.
The self-assured hubris you display is unparalleled.
I would have drafted them. So tell me, who would you rather have on the Bills right now.
Hall and Woolen OR
Elam and Cook
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2 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said:
Lol. Now you’re under the delusion that you are in the position to put ultimatums to people who know more about the business of football than you could learn in 10 lifetimes.
You’ve lost the script.
Beanes track record proves otherwise. While I stand by my Breece Hall and Woolen looks better than what Beane has done. This message board could manage this team better as a whole. I’m not sure Beane has what it takes. Hopkins proves to me that he does and I’m willing to wait it out.
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1 minute ago, JoPoy88 said:
ridiculous. You are way too invested in this idea (and that’s all it was/is, an idea.) Fire the guy on the spot, huh? Without knowing any of the demands or the course of the negotiations? Yeah sure.
worst kind of Bills fan guy. Don’t mind saying it.
I guess you don’t want to win then, ok with just making the playoffs. Ok with getting spanked by KC or Cinci every year when it matters. Well I’m not ok with it and I’m not going to stand for it. Everyone here knows we need a better Oline and a better #2 WR for Allen. We are wasting him. It’s criminal negligence. I honestly feel bad for Allen that we have wasted so much capital on defense just to watch Allen squirm around and watch Diggs get doubled.
Getting Hopkins proves to me that Beane gets it, and understands what is needed. Otherwise I will just lose total faith in management and that they don’t understand what is needed to win.-
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Just now, Patrick Duffy said:
I doubt it.
I’ve already made the ultimatum a week ago. It’s Hopkins or else. His entire job this offseason should have been prioritizing another weapon for Josh. We are in an arms race with KC/Cinci. If Beane doesn’t realize that’s, then I don’t want him as our GM.
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1 minute ago, ngbills said:
Hopkins not being a bill would be a big letdown at this point.
It would be criminal and Beane should be charged. Imagine not getting another 1B WR when they are available. We need this. If he can’t do it, we will find someone that can.
9 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said:What some rationale people have said 40 pages ago...
To think this started with: a song, orange juice, people following others on social media (who would ever think), and ALOT of information coming from random sources.
This will end with @Warriorspikes51 and @IronMaidenBills blaming Beane for not pulling the trigger on this...
meanwhile Beane is likely laughing at all the conjecture and will probably laugh it off at his next presser when asked about it.
Critical thinking skills are lacking, instesd we have wishful thinking for days on here
If Beane can’t pull this off, he should be fired on the spot. You are the GM, it is your job to make this team better and go after pieces that are needed to win. Period. Go get Hopkins or start looking for another job.
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Please please please Hopkins.
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Diggs + Hopkins might be the most exciting thing on offense in years. I can’t think of a better duo in some time.
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1 minute ago, NewEra said:
We may as well just close the rest of the threads for the weekend- all talk right here
A Hopkins warning is now in effect, store up on essentials, popcorn, and beer. Do not try to venture out during these exceptional times.
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2 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:
Torrance is not a scheme fit. Avila is a better choice.
Yep, Avila is the quintessential Bill. He should be our priority pick in the draft. Get Vorhees later in the draft and let him heal.
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4 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:
to be 100% clear on ‘21… it was hamstring stuff first, then the knee. He’s great, but I don’t think he’s dominant like he was in Houston or even ‘20 in AZ.
30 yo can be a cliff for some WRs.
He’s still dominant, did you not watch him last year? If the guy would have played a full season, he’d be well over 1,000 yards. With back up QBs. Imagine what he would do with Allen throwing him the ball and playing next to a pro caliber WR which he has never done before.
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1 minute ago, Simon said:
Yeah, after you've traded your first round pick for a guy that probably won't even draw a third.
I said I would only do it if KC is offering a 2nd, which it doesn’t sound like they are. Nobody said anything about it being a 2023 pick, it can be a 2024 pick.
Go get Hopkins and use the entire draft on oline and a LB. That’s my plan.
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1 minute ago, Simon said:
I'm not saying they shouldn't do it, just that its a ridiculous contention that they're going to win a SB because they added a WR to run routes behind a porous OLine
I’m making the assumption that Beane will address the oline in the draft. But generally yes I agree with you, but Hopkins should be the first main piece to get us to where we want to go. That allows us to not have to immediate use a pick on WR in the draft, but instead pick up more protection pieces for Allen.
Avila is my main target for oline, the dude just stonewalls people.
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1 minute ago, JohnBonhamRocks said:
On my admittedly brief dive into interior OL in the draft Avila seemed like a good fit who we could get in round 2. What do you like about him?He’s one of the best pass protecting linemen in the draft. I’ve skimmed over his stats and game play, and he would absolutely help give Allen the time he needs.
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1 minute ago, Simon said:
You do understand that you could put Randy Moss and Calvin Johnson out there and it doesn't mean jack spit if you're QB is getting swarmed before he even hits his drop?
I didn't think so....
Which is why I want to trade for Hopkins and totally dedicate the draft to the oline and a LB.
Go get Avila and a RT. Maybe a Drew Sanders for MLB.
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1 minute ago, Dr. Who said:
We'll see how it plays out. I think your desire for Hopkins on the team is writing checks above what is necessary. Maybe I'm wrong . . .
Maybe I am over analyzing the situation, but for me the choice is obvious. We have an elite QB and if he gets another elite WR option, I just don’t see how other teams can stop us. Now teams can double Diggs and neutralize Davis and we stall out at times. You can’t do that with Diggs and Hopkins.
WRs like Hopkins and Evans would completely bulletproof our offense and it’s exactly why I’ve been so adamant about these two WRs. They are exactly the type of WR we need to free up Diggs and vise versa.
Hopkins has put up fantastic numbers even without having an elite WR playing next to him, imagine what Hopkins is going to do if he can’t be doubled as much as he has been in the past. Dude is going to absolutely change us to an unstoppable force.
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Just now, RiotAct said:
I mean… we ARE the Bills…
Billsy or not, we win a super bowl with Hopkins, sig it. You aren’t stopping Diggs + Hopkins with Allen throwing the ball. With good WR depth like Davis and Shakir eating if teams focus on both Diggs and Hopkins.
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1 minute ago, Dr. Who said:
I'm guessing you lose a lot at poker.
I'm totally on board with acquiring Hopkins. You don't have to pay that much.
If it doesn't happen, I doubt it's a compensation issue.
Honestly no, I’m pretty good at poker and win a fairly good amount of times. I’m not saying to come right out and offer a 1st, I’m just saying I would do it if that is what it took to solidify the trade. I’m not saying you should pay that much, but if it is necessary to do what we need to do to win a super bowl, you do it.
If KC is offering a 2nd, then you offer a 1st, you have to keep DHop out of KC. I’m sure Beane realizes that Hopkins in KC is a disaster and we must do what we can to stop that.
Will DeAndre Hopkins be available this offseason?
in The Stadium Wall
Posted · Edited by IronMaidenBills
I can understand being concerned about 1st and 2nd round picks when a team is rebuilding and trying to become a contender. We have already reached that point and then some. There are only so many places that we can truly upgrade that would pay dividends. Another star WR is one of those places. To me it’s just an easy decision. We are here, and we are ready to make these power moves now, when you are a piece away, this is the time to do these kind of “reckless” maneuvers.