Beck Water
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2 minutes ago, mrags said:
If we’re expecting some 3rd rd rookie to come in and be a team leader and captain in his rookie year; we have more problems than I thought.
Where did I say that was my expectation?
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17 minutes ago, CountDorkula said:
You could say in rd 3 getting a quality starter at any position are not good.
Well.....it depends upon what you mean by that
Overall the odds are something like 20-30% (higher at the top of the round, lower at the bottom
But they're not that much higher in the bottom of the 1st/top of the 2nd
Beane's 3rd round picks:
Harrison Phillips - struggled with us possibly due to injuries, 34 starts in 2 seasons for Vikes
Devin Singletary - 4 year starter for us, 898 yds on 10 starts for Houston last season. Solid.
Zach Moss - didn't start for us but 11 starts and 22 games for the Ponies, 794 yds last year
Spencer Brown - 41 starts including all 17 last season, Solid
Terrel Bernard - looked like a terror last season after rough rookie outings
Dorian Williams - to be determined, see Bernard, Terrel
I would say Beane's record in the 3rd round is pretty durn good - every one of the guys we have more than a year of data on can play ball. Not stars of stars, but can play. 3 of the 6 we have adequate data on have been starters for us, 2 more hit their stride for other teams.
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5 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said:
We were 10000% short of leaders. We lost a ton of them.
Yeah, I'm seeing that as a theme. This guy: 3 year team captain, scholar-athlete award in the ACC. Safety Bishop, they said he's a leader, you hear him getting the DBs into position.
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13 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:
Sean McDermott is a stupid man. And he's got Beane clearly wrapped around his finger.
4 minutes ago, Gunsgoodtime said:Very possible
You guys should start a "Bad Takes" festival and sell tickets for $2 a pop.
Round these parts, you might make book enough for a Tall Flat White at Starbucks. Better go for the decaff espresso.
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1 hour ago, Locomark said:
He’s not lasting until our 95 pick.
You Sure?
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11 minutes ago, zow2 said:
Is he this years Boogie Basham?
God, I hope not.
I think he's a legit player, although it could be said, undersized for a DT in the NFL. But he seems to be a player in the Kyle Williams "rolling ball of butcher knives" mold.
12 minutes ago, SCBills said:
We need another guy, agreed. Either trade up early tomorrow and get a speed guy to be WR4 or see what’s out there after 6/1.
He does have a good OL with Kincaid, Knox, Cook, Coleman, Shakir and Samuel.
Not nothing.. but agreed.. once again, Defense looks like it’s receiving strong investment, while Offense is .. so far .. just replacing guys with equal or less proven guys.
To be fair, you could say that about defense, too, right? Bishop is replacing Poyer and Hyde with a less proven guy. Carter is replacing Jordan Phillips with a less proven guy.
We cut or let walk a bunch of vet defenders this off-season.
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28 minutes ago, gobills1212 said:
You are right as you can always sign to an extension or franchise tag, BUT, why then did CAR need to trade up? Simply so Buffalo didn't take the guy they wanted?
True, but the entire gist of that particular story is that they had to pivot once that trade occured. Again, it is what it is and the added value of the pick could have made what you say 100% true. But if that's to be believed, for one reason or another, a pivot happened.
I doubt the Bills trade without knowing who Carolina is going to pick.
My guess would be the Bills were talking to multiple teams about a trade-up, and Carolina was afraid one of them would draft Legette whom apparently Carolina was known to be high on. It's possible with Dan Morgan there one of the Bills team reached out and said hey, we're talking to Team X about a trade, you want to beat their offer? and Carolina believed Team X was after Legette, so they did.
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4 minutes ago, Snappysnackcakes said:
3 tech or a 5 tech for another system.
What I thought, thanks!
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3 minutes ago, SCBills said:
Bills are a depth Corner and mercenary post 6/1 DE away from having a “no holes” top tier defense.
Von, Rousseau, AJE
Ed, Jones, Johnson, Carter
Milano, Bernard, Morrow, Williams
Johnson
Benford, Douglas, Elam
Bishop, Rapp, Edwards
Forgot Cam Lewis, and he matters because he can back up both nickel and boundary CB
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6 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:
My favorite of the 3 picks. I still want more receivers but Carter can play. That was a position of need and the Bills added some pass rush.
Since you know something about him...looking at his draft profile, he projects as a 3TDT?
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2 minutes ago, Playoffs? said:
Weird that Beane isn’t even attempting to move up. We have so many draft picks. Aren’t there guys he covets and sees value in?
I think what it says is that they have a number of guys about equal on their board with no one sticking out
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Ohkay dokay so we're not trading up
Anyone got a list of BPA?
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3 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:
Beane said his GPS tracking is more 4.5 than 4.6
I would believe it. Watch him run the gauntlet - I don't have "scout's eyes" for estimating speed by sight like @Buffalo716, but it's marked enough that I can see the difference between his speed in the gauntlet when catching footballs is the order of business, -vs- the 40 yd dash where he was trying to run fast.
Someone said he reached 21 mph in the gauntlet
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1 hour ago, Beck Water said:
It'll be interesting to see what Beane does now. We have 4 4th round picks, 2 of them reasonably high.
Would not surprise me to see Beane use a 4th rounder and a later pick to try to move up in the 3rd.
We're coming into the range where I thought we might find a trade partner for 1 of our 5th round picks and the KC 3rd to move us up 3-5 slots if we want
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1 minute ago, L Ron Burgundy said:
Idk Rapp is not strong at coverage. That's a nice way of putting it.
Rapp is a danger to his fellow defenders. That's a real way of putting it.
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11 minutes ago, SCBills said:
RGIII can be so corny, but when he’s on, he’s on..
Loved this follow up to RGIII here:
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12 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:
How do you figure McDermott of all coaches, is going to bench Rapp for a rookie? Not happening, look at Rapps contract combined with the fact he has a year in the system.
Easy. If the rookie picks up the system and is the better baller, McDermott will play him.
This crap about McDermott not playing rookies is baloney.
O'Cyrus Torrance started 17 games.
Kincaid played 16 games, 63% of the snaps and Knox, who had the 9th or 10th highest cap hit on the team, saw his snap count drop 20%.
Rapp is getting a salary of $1.77M this year and has a cap hit of $2.8M, 18th on the team right now. It's not like he's getting paid superstar $$
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1 minute ago, That's No Moon said:
Maybe they did the work and then concluded they didn't want him.
Or maybe they did the work, concluded they did want him, but had Cole Bishop higher on their board?
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11 minutes ago, Saint Doug said:
Exhibit 2 that Beane does not draft BPA in Rd 1 or 2, but rather by need. In case you forget this, you can come back and read it.
So what teams DO draft 100% BPA if I may ask?
Once you have a reasonably good team, seems to me you can't draft entirely BPA, or you wind up with too many OLmen and no DB or vice versa.
I think all the good teams draft need-modified or need-influenced BPA.
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It'll be interesting to see what Beane does now. We have 4 4th round picks, 2 of them reasonably high.
Would not surprise me to see Beane use a 4th rounder and a later pick to try to move up in the 3rd.
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2 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:
I wanted Safety in Round 4. Do not like this
Dude, are you channeling that kid from the old advertisement? "We'll give it to Mikey, He Hates EVERYTHING!"
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So for you guys who don't like the pick, Greg Cosell is lukewarm about it, based on film.
https://www.buffalobills.com/video/greg-cosell-top-wrs-left-for-the-bills-on-day-2-of-the-nfl-draft
He really likes Adonai Mitchell, based on film
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4 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:
Colts are having a hell of a draft. They're taking some chances on medicals with both players, I guess, but I like those picks.
I actually came here to say just that. High risk/High reward Draft Board for the Ponies. They're either going to be much better, or much sad.
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7 minutes ago, BuffaloBillsGospel2014 said:
He also ran the fastest gauntlet and only dropped 2 passes in 2023.
Yeah, I was watching the gauntlet vs. his 40 yd dash, and what a difference. He looked much faster.
Rd 3, Pick 95: DT DeWayne Carter, Duke
in The Stadium Wall
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I can not disagree with this take. And McKenzie, though they did bring in Crowder as competition.
But you know, the draft ain't over, and the season won't start the day after the draft, so...
I'm starting to wonder just WTF Franklin did though.
Did he lease a Lambo? Show 'tude during interviews? Flunk out at the whiteboard?
Welp, Then