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I really want to know if there’s some reason we don’t sneak that much…I can see a shotgun run vs an under center run from the goal line but there’s just no good reason not to attempt a sneak there so calling a shotgun run is ridiculous
I think the choking bit is getting a little overblown in this one…it seemed like TB was content running the clock out on themselves and there’s no way they were gonna get any closer than a 1/1000 Hail Mary attempt if we played pretty conservative and pinned them deep in the second half multiple times. It wasn’t fun to watch but it was effective.
that punt return in the jets game was absolute bollocks…there was a blatant trip on the 25 yard line but apparently only we commit special teams penalties 😂. That was the difference in this game for me and why it ended up pretty close when it shouldn’t have.we were absolutely dominating the field position game and just completely throwing it away on stupid ST penalties in the second half. Probably cost ourselves 80 yards of field position. We would’ve added on two more fgs at minimum despite trying to control the clock if we cleaned that up
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Haha I love how the lead up to the game around here was ‘the bucs defense is actually good we will probably lose the game’ and then there was a meltdown anyway because we made some mistakes despite winning the game fairly comfortably
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2 hours ago, BillsPride12 said:
Kincaid
Shakir
Benford(I won't hold that last Mike Evans TD against him)
I’ve never seen mike evans not push off on a play it is getting ridiculous
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He might have the best hands in the league
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2 minutes ago, MarkKelso'sHelmet said:
Just to be clear: in the NFL, the kicker is allowed to take off his helmet and swing it as a weapon, right?
We’ve had calls helping us and hurting us all year and I’d say it’s evened out but tonight felt like the classic ‘organized crime has a huge bet on the bucs to cover’ type game 😂 like just the play you mentioned is an ejection let alone a penalty lol
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30 minutes ago, Alpo Chino said:
As far as being in his range, arc doesn't matter. If it does, then how much arc is too much arc to be considered "out of range". Doesn't really make sense. You could even argue that a higher arc might be more effective on a hail mary bc it would allow more receivers to try and get under it.
I mean this is semantics at this point…the ball did not get there when Godwin expected it or he completely lost it in the air.. from experience tracking a ball that’s way up there in a night game of baseball/football/whatever is harder than it looks
my general point is it’s a stretch to say that Hail Mary almost worked when the guy getting the ball thrown to him had absolutely no idea where it was
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1 minute ago, billsfan89 said:
Shouldn’t have been trying to draw them off when you are up 14. I get the attempt but don’t extend the game when you are already up.I’ll have to watch again but I got the vibe that the bucs had 12 men or were lined up Offside and we snapped it to catch them…I don’t think it was a hard count or anything
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7 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said:
Our seats are pretty much at the same depth in the endzone, Bills side, as where Godwin ended up. That ball looked like it was going to land in his lap. Luckily someone was bothering him enough that he didn't get his head around in time to track it. Heck of a throw.
These last-play games are exhausting.
He completely lost the football…timing seemed off on that whole play because baker absolutely moonshotted it lol this being pitched as close to a completion is wild to me. He was never at any point ready to catch that pass
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8 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:
That was the stupidest play of the game. You are up 14 knocking on field goal range and the clock is your friend why snap the ball before the quarter ends and effectively extend the game.At worst you let the quarter run out and just run the ball and tick 40+ seconds off the game. Instead you take a sack and the game is 40 seconds longer
Somethin silly happened there…someone on the bills whether it was morse or josh thought they caught the bucs Offside and that they had a free play
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4 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:
On Josh's only INT, I absolutely hated the call. No one chips the blitzer as the entire OL shifts left. So poorly designed like the shotgun draws that still fail. I still can't stand Dorsey.
I mean that’s kind of the point of a naked bootleg lol everything needs to look like it’s flowing left. The pulling lineman on a normal bootleg play kind of tips your hand so it’s a pretty common staple to run them naked.
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26 minutes ago, What a Tuel said:
Why do we do those screens to Diggs anyway? Isn't the focus going to be on him with extra coverage?
The 3rd down play on the first drive could’ve been huge but it looked like the other receiver on that side of the field missed his pick to free diggs up and the defender made a nice one on one tackle.
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1 minute ago, Franco_92 said:
If this has ever worked one time in the history of the NFL, it's worth doing. Not sure why people hate it
The big mistake was actually snapping the ball at the end of the 3rd
I was just coming to say this…I’ve seen walk off wins on plays like that. Why not try it
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Just now, Alpo Chino said:
Well to be fair if he was able to throw it that far technically it is in his range. Amount of arc doesn't matter.
It definitely matters…none of the receivers ever located the football…I’ve never seen anything like it. It was an absolute moonshot.
people saying ‘we almost lost’ when not a single receiver anywhere near the football knew it was coming is making me chuckle looked like Godwin got completely surprised by it as it whizzed past him
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6 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said:
Looked like they were consciously trying to get Diggs involved in the 2nd half and the offense struggled to move the ball all of a sudden. I liked the multi-faceted first half approach, please keep targeting everyone.
Looked like he got a lot of single coverage looks in the second half…can’t blame the team for going to your best player in those situations. If the refs weren’t in ‘let’s keep this a game’ mode, diggs probably gets some of those holding calls
1 minute ago, Bermuda Triangle said:Well, it was before Allen went into the tent.
are you Ken Dorsey?
I’d agree that under center goal lines runs are probably less successful but not sneaking it doesn’t make a lot of sense to me. Seemed like op was makin the point that an under center non sneak is just as bad if not worse than a shotgun run
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1 hour ago, Bermuda Triangle said:
Why must the same mistakes be made over and over and over again? Is there any accountability for the players and coaches?
Examples:
1. Gabe Davis fumbles against NYG 2 weeks ago, because he failed to shift the ball from his inside hand to outside hand. He did the same thing today, in the second quarter. This is basic, fundamental football.
2. Taron Johnson: how many weeks in a row has he committed a crucial penalty on 3rd or 4th down?
3. How many times does McDermott need to see Taron Johnson get beat on the same play in the end zone?
4. Dorsey, and his affinity for the shotgun on 3rd and short plays, deep in enemy territory. Second time in 3 weeks.
5. The horrible job on the Hail Mary - again. Got burned on Hail Murray, and almost inexplicably, the very next week (maybe the Chargers?)
6. Dumb penalties, poor tackling and lack of discipline.
Why did McDermott have the offense take its foot off of the gas after the score became 24-10? With this defense - its lack of playmakers and anemic pass rush - the margin of error will be thin, so it's imperative that the offense score early AND often. This game shouldn't have been close.
Taron defended that play you’re talking about quite well it was just a great throw/catch.
this Hail Mary criticism is laughable…no one on the field knew where the ball was because baker had to arc it 100 miles in the air since it was out of his range but we’re gonna continue this charade that we were close to giving up a td because it landed a few feet away from a receiver that never saw it?
margin of error didn’t seem thin tonight, the ball bounced the bucs way every chance it got and we gave them two free first downs on 4th down yet the closest they came to winning was a 60+ yard pass that literally no one even attempted to make a play on -
4 minutes ago, Buffalo Super Fan said:
It’s a Buffalo Bills win over the Tampa Bay Buccaneers onto the Cincinnati Bengals game a week from Sunday. There really isn’t much more a Bills fan can say than it’s a win for Bills. I don’t see the point of rehashing the obvious weekly by this present Bills team this season they aren’t improving because they can’t. That isn’t because the Bills players aren’t trying because they are. It’s just the Bills have reached their career ceiling with some players and in other cases are at the end of their NFL careers it is what it is in my opinion. Go Bills! Let’s Go Buffalo
If you didn’t see this game as an improvement over the previous two I just don’t know what to tell you. The bucs defense is better than the giants and pats considerably and we got a lot of players involved on offense and let the bucs run themselves right out of the game
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4 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:
What? WTH are you talking about? Bass was perfect. All the snaps were perfect. Kick returns were exciting! The punting was fantastic! What the hell game did you watch??
He might be talking about the penalties in the second half…they were absolute killers. We threw away a ton of good field position with ST penalties punting was outstanding
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34 minutes ago, Turbo44 said:
you have josh allen as qb you go fo everything 4th and 5 or less. otherwise you're a fkn pssy. Worked barely s TB won't work vs Cinci, KC or Phi
They weren’t playing cincy kc or philly…this is honestly the craziest argument lol if they were playing those teams they probably go for it
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Just now, DrDawkinstein said:
It was the 2nd possession of the night and before he got banged up. No excuse not to be aggressive that early in the game and get the easy points. No need to be cute.
Ah my mistake then back to 0 excuses…I don’t even know what’s cute about a shotgun run on the goal line lol it’s not like it’s super creative or anything. Like a toss play to the outside under center is cuter than that and probably has an exponentially better chance of working
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10 minutes ago, pi2000 said:
- Jordan Phillips grabs Mayfield's facemask on a 4th down sack
- T. Johnson gets flagged on another 4th down
- A desperation pass to M. Evans bounces off Benford's helmet directly into his arms
- A batted ball on a 2pt conversion is deflected directly to a Tampa player
Now consider there are infinite parallel universes (there are)... it at least one of those universes all of the above happens in the final 5 minutes of the game, yet the Bills still find a way to win, that's the universe we live in.
If just one of those things doesn't happen, the Bills win comfortably and nobody is questioning McD. Let's give the guy a break.
Evans pushed off big time on that play too and no call haha that’s really my argument for punting late…a ton went the bucs way and the closest they could conceivably come to winning with that bad field position most of the second half was a 1/1000 Hail Mary attempt where nobody even knew where the ball was
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1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said:
he looked EXTREMELY dangerous on those punt returns. He had rocket fuel boost short area quickness that looked twice as fast as what he had shown to this pointhe should be getting screens and jet sweeps at the very least
If anyone blew it tonight it was those holding penalties on the special teams and nobody will criticize it cuz of the punting/aggressiveness controversy haha offense was dominating the field position battle, the returns were always good too and the holds never looked super consequential. We threw away a lot of points on just ST penalties
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5 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:
Just an asinine play call.
2 downs to get 6" and you don't call two straight QB sneaks?
And we won so the Buffalo media will talk about Dorsey's feelings, and what Kincaid means to everyone, but what are you doing there? He did that in another game earlier this year and it didn't work then.
Another give up run out of shotgun down in the red zone that lost yards, and Allen bailed them the next play to Kincaid.
I still really don’t understand that one…the only answer I’ll maybe accept is they were worried josh was banged up on a previous play. I will defend the punts all night long on this board but that shotgun run on the goal line is a real head scratcher.
I can kind of understand it in other areas of the field because you don’t want to telegraph if a play is a pass or a run based on formations/substitutions but on the goal line I just can’t understand it
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3 minutes ago, Warcodered said:
The offense was great when they let it be great.
Absolutely McDermott decided a 14 pt lead was good enough to start playing clock burning football and it killed our offensive momentum. Which is something he needs to pay attention to because you can't burn clock when you don't get 1st downs. That's what's more important if he wants to actually burn clock, doesn't matter if the play style goes against conventional wisdom of a run first and short pass game to do it. If you don't hang on to the ball your not going to burn the clock.
It’s a calculated risk that we all get to criticize with the power of hindsight. For instance, that pass attempt to a wide open knox to close out the giants game did not work out and everyone jumped all over it. Fairly aggressive play but very high percentage and we missed it
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11 minutes ago, Best Williams Available said:
You’re misunderstanding me either purposefully or other.
You’re telling me you’re worried about going for one of the 4ths because it gives the Bucs a chance at a short field if they stop the Bills. That creates a potential “ballgame” out of a comfortable lead.
I’m telling you the team did what you’re advocating for and it ended up being a ballgame decided on the last play, anyway.
I’m not misunderstanding you at all I think you are grossly misusing ‘ballgame’. That Hail Mary was at the very edge of the range where baker could even reach…nobody could even locate it cuz it was in the air forever. That’s a 1/1000 type play and the way the bucs were mismanaging the clock late there was no way the game was going to end any other way. It was taking them far too long to move the ball.
if you go for one/a few of those 4th and shorts and get stopped, then your defense that you don’t trust is defending one/multiple short fields and the clock is no longer a factor. Every one of those punts was the right call against a team like the bucs every single time and all of the punts were outstanding but we whiffed downing that final one deep
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The Good, The Bad, The Ugly TNF Bucs edition
in The Stadium Wall
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Something went really wrong there haha I can’t argue with this criticism at all. The punts I’ll defend but snapping the ball there was a mess. I think morse thought he caught someone Offside and snapped it and josh wasn’t really ready for it but that’s just a guess