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4 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:
On Josh's only INT, I absolutely hated the call. No one chips the blitzer as the entire OL shifts left. So poorly designed like the shotgun draws that still fail. I still can't stand Dorsey.
I mean that’s kind of the point of a naked bootleg lol everything needs to look like it’s flowing left. The pulling lineman on a normal bootleg play kind of tips your hand so it’s a pretty common staple to run them naked.
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26 minutes ago, What a Tuel said:
Why do we do those screens to Diggs anyway? Isn't the focus going to be on him with extra coverage?
The 3rd down play on the first drive could’ve been huge but it looked like the other receiver on that side of the field missed his pick to free diggs up and the defender made a nice one on one tackle.
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1 minute ago, Franco_92 said:
If this has ever worked one time in the history of the NFL, it's worth doing. Not sure why people hate it
The big mistake was actually snapping the ball at the end of the 3rd
I was just coming to say this…I’ve seen walk off wins on plays like that. Why not try it
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Just now, Alpo Chino said:
Well to be fair if he was able to throw it that far technically it is in his range. Amount of arc doesn't matter.
It definitely matters…none of the receivers ever located the football…I’ve never seen anything like it. It was an absolute moonshot.
people saying ‘we almost lost’ when not a single receiver anywhere near the football knew it was coming is making me chuckle looked like Godwin got completely surprised by it as it whizzed past him
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6 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said:
Looked like they were consciously trying to get Diggs involved in the 2nd half and the offense struggled to move the ball all of a sudden. I liked the multi-faceted first half approach, please keep targeting everyone.
Looked like he got a lot of single coverage looks in the second half…can’t blame the team for going to your best player in those situations. If the refs weren’t in ‘let’s keep this a game’ mode, diggs probably gets some of those holding calls
1 minute ago, Bermuda Triangle said:Well, it was before Allen went into the tent.
are you Ken Dorsey?
I’d agree that under center goal lines runs are probably less successful but not sneaking it doesn’t make a lot of sense to me. Seemed like op was makin the point that an under center non sneak is just as bad if not worse than a shotgun run
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1 hour ago, Bermuda Triangle said:
Why must the same mistakes be made over and over and over again? Is there any accountability for the players and coaches?
Examples:
1. Gabe Davis fumbles against NYG 2 weeks ago, because he failed to shift the ball from his inside hand to outside hand. He did the same thing today, in the second quarter. This is basic, fundamental football.
2. Taron Johnson: how many weeks in a row has he committed a crucial penalty on 3rd or 4th down?
3. How many times does McDermott need to see Taron Johnson get beat on the same play in the end zone?
4. Dorsey, and his affinity for the shotgun on 3rd and short plays, deep in enemy territory. Second time in 3 weeks.
5. The horrible job on the Hail Mary - again. Got burned on Hail Murray, and almost inexplicably, the very next week (maybe the Chargers?)
6. Dumb penalties, poor tackling and lack of discipline.
Why did McDermott have the offense take its foot off of the gas after the score became 24-10? With this defense - its lack of playmakers and anemic pass rush - the margin of error will be thin, so it's imperative that the offense score early AND often. This game shouldn't have been close.
Taron defended that play you’re talking about quite well it was just a great throw/catch.
this Hail Mary criticism is laughable…no one on the field knew where the ball was because baker had to arc it 100 miles in the air since it was out of his range but we’re gonna continue this charade that we were close to giving up a td because it landed a few feet away from a receiver that never saw it?
margin of error didn’t seem thin tonight, the ball bounced the bucs way every chance it got and we gave them two free first downs on 4th down yet the closest they came to winning was a 60+ yard pass that literally no one even attempted to make a play on -
4 minutes ago, Buffalo Super Fan said:
It’s a Buffalo Bills win over the Tampa Bay Buccaneers onto the Cincinnati Bengals game a week from Sunday. There really isn’t much more a Bills fan can say than it’s a win for Bills. I don’t see the point of rehashing the obvious weekly by this present Bills team this season they aren’t improving because they can’t. That isn’t because the Bills players aren’t trying because they are. It’s just the Bills have reached their career ceiling with some players and in other cases are at the end of their NFL careers it is what it is in my opinion. Go Bills! Let’s Go Buffalo
If you didn’t see this game as an improvement over the previous two I just don’t know what to tell you. The bucs defense is better than the giants and pats considerably and we got a lot of players involved on offense and let the bucs run themselves right out of the game
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4 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:
What? WTH are you talking about? Bass was perfect. All the snaps were perfect. Kick returns were exciting! The punting was fantastic! What the hell game did you watch??
He might be talking about the penalties in the second half…they were absolute killers. We threw away a ton of good field position with ST penalties punting was outstanding
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34 minutes ago, Turbo44 said:
you have josh allen as qb you go fo everything 4th and 5 or less. otherwise you're a fkn pssy. Worked barely s TB won't work vs Cinci, KC or Phi
They weren’t playing cincy kc or philly…this is honestly the craziest argument lol if they were playing those teams they probably go for it
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Just now, DrDawkinstein said:
It was the 2nd possession of the night and before he got banged up. No excuse not to be aggressive that early in the game and get the easy points. No need to be cute.
Ah my mistake then back to 0 excuses…I don’t even know what’s cute about a shotgun run on the goal line lol it’s not like it’s super creative or anything. Like a toss play to the outside under center is cuter than that and probably has an exponentially better chance of working
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10 minutes ago, pi2000 said:
- Jordan Phillips grabs Mayfield's facemask on a 4th down sack
- T. Johnson gets flagged on another 4th down
- A desperation pass to M. Evans bounces off Benford's helmet directly into his arms
- A batted ball on a 2pt conversion is deflected directly to a Tampa player
Now consider there are infinite parallel universes (there are)... it at least one of those universes all of the above happens in the final 5 minutes of the game, yet the Bills still find a way to win, that's the universe we live in.
If just one of those things doesn't happen, the Bills win comfortably and nobody is questioning McD. Let's give the guy a break.
Evans pushed off big time on that play too and no call haha that’s really my argument for punting late…a ton went the bucs way and the closest they could conceivably come to winning with that bad field position most of the second half was a 1/1000 Hail Mary attempt where nobody even knew where the ball was
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1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said:
he looked EXTREMELY dangerous on those punt returns. He had rocket fuel boost short area quickness that looked twice as fast as what he had shown to this pointhe should be getting screens and jet sweeps at the very least
If anyone blew it tonight it was those holding penalties on the special teams and nobody will criticize it cuz of the punting/aggressiveness controversy haha offense was dominating the field position battle, the returns were always good too and the holds never looked super consequential. We threw away a lot of points on just ST penalties
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5 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:
Just an asinine play call.
2 downs to get 6" and you don't call two straight QB sneaks?
And we won so the Buffalo media will talk about Dorsey's feelings, and what Kincaid means to everyone, but what are you doing there? He did that in another game earlier this year and it didn't work then.
Another give up run out of shotgun down in the red zone that lost yards, and Allen bailed them the next play to Kincaid.
I still really don’t understand that one…the only answer I’ll maybe accept is they were worried josh was banged up on a previous play. I will defend the punts all night long on this board but that shotgun run on the goal line is a real head scratcher.
I can kind of understand it in other areas of the field because you don’t want to telegraph if a play is a pass or a run based on formations/substitutions but on the goal line I just can’t understand it
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3 minutes ago, Warcodered said:
The offense was great when they let it be great.
Absolutely McDermott decided a 14 pt lead was good enough to start playing clock burning football and it killed our offensive momentum. Which is something he needs to pay attention to because you can't burn clock when you don't get 1st downs. That's what's more important if he wants to actually burn clock, doesn't matter if the play style goes against conventional wisdom of a run first and short pass game to do it. If you don't hang on to the ball your not going to burn the clock.
It’s a calculated risk that we all get to criticize with the power of hindsight. For instance, that pass attempt to a wide open knox to close out the giants game did not work out and everyone jumped all over it. Fairly aggressive play but very high percentage and we missed it
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11 minutes ago, Best Williams Available said:
You’re misunderstanding me either purposefully or other.
You’re telling me you’re worried about going for one of the 4ths because it gives the Bucs a chance at a short field if they stop the Bills. That creates a potential “ballgame” out of a comfortable lead.
I’m telling you the team did what you’re advocating for and it ended up being a ballgame decided on the last play, anyway.
I’m not misunderstanding you at all I think you are grossly misusing ‘ballgame’. That Hail Mary was at the very edge of the range where baker could even reach…nobody could even locate it cuz it was in the air forever. That’s a 1/1000 type play and the way the bucs were mismanaging the clock late there was no way the game was going to end any other way. It was taking them far too long to move the ball.
if you go for one/a few of those 4th and shorts and get stopped, then your defense that you don’t trust is defending one/multiple short fields and the clock is no longer a factor. Every one of those punts was the right call against a team like the bucs every single time and all of the punts were outstanding but we whiffed downing that final one deep
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2 minutes ago, JTown said:
Bad luck? If tonight's game was not filled with enough examples of horrendous coaching you are extremely biased.
I have been a fan since my first game in 1972. I get it. But believe me, being a fan don't mean that you have to accept the garbage game management McClappy displayed yet again. That was pure trash. I found myself laughing tonight knowing his stupid use of timeouts were likely going to cost us the game. He is clueless.
Dorsey and his moronic play calling at the 1/2 yard line? Are you kidding me? He should be gone by morning.
Nothing is going to change this season. Book it. If they fail to make the playoffs or lose before the championship round, Clappy will use Dorsey as the scapegoat. Book it.
Unfortunately, we I think we are stuck with Mc Clappy for two more seasons and I don't think either of which will be "Championship Caliber" .
I don’t think you’re the savvy football fan you think you are if you weren’t a fan of that timeout before halftime…really incredible to me that everyone is supposedly smarter than mcd here and the one time he does something that a smart coach would do they don’t recognize it 😂
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1 minute ago, CincyBillsFan said:
The fact that TB got to midfield and was able to hurl a ball into the end zone with a decent shot at scoring the winning TD is what we're talkign about. I agree that it wasn't as close as some are saying but the fact that it was a lot closer then it should have been can not be denied.
Decent shot!? Haha they complete that pass probably less that 1 in 100 tries…if you go for every 4th and short in the second half the bucs odds are much better than that. It’s a wild argument from fans that just wanted to see more offense…I understand where the sentiment is coming from but rational thought has left the building 😂. People think dropping 100 tonight would make them feel better about the games we lost but it doesn’t change the past
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Just now, Best Williams Available said:
You’re totally focused on the last 4th down, which I said was not a bad decision. 2 other 4th and shorts from past the 50 up 14 with plenty of time, even if they’re stopped doesn’t significantly increase the Bucs win %. Get 1 of them however and the Bills % does.
“One stop and it’s a ballgame”?? It ended up being a ballgame anyway using what you and the coaches think is sound logic.
No it’s all if them not just the last…if it’s gonna take 8+ minutes for tb to punch in the td why would you want to risk giving them good field position?
plenty of time lol how? they are vastly shortening a game that we were up two scores. A Hail Mary attempt that baker could only reach with the ball arced a mile in the air is hardly a ballgame…was us running a hook and ladder on the final play against the jags a ballgame? Y’all are just broken from a Hail Mary a few years ago clearly 😂. That play was not even close
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Just now, Breakout Squad said:
2 feet and Tampa wins? HUH?!?
People are out of their minds tonight…that Hail Mary was not even close lol it’s just about as far as you can get on a ball that made it to the end zone
baker didn’t have the arm strength to get it there so he had to throw an absolute rainbow
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Just now, CincyBillsFan said:
They got the 1st down with the Diggs catch. The Browns got the ball at their own 20 yard line with 21 seconds left. That they actually got within a few feet of winning the game is a trademark of a McD defense. It was almost as bad as "13 seconds".
Y’all are making it sound like a receiver had their hands on it or something lol this is the exaggeration of a lifetime…that Hail Mary might have been one of the furthest from being completed I’ve ever seen. Nobody even located the football to make a play on it
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1 minute ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:
Started out good, Allen got a designed run, spread formations, 4 wide empty out of shotgun.
And then slowly we reverted back - tight formations, shotgun runs from the 1-inch line, 2nd-down runs in the red zone, McDermott taking horrible timeouts at the end of the first half and second half, the pace slowed down, the energy dropped.
And my gosh you see Harty making those kind of returns and you can’t find a way to get that guy the ball on offense????????????????
Freaking 2-feet and Tampa wins this game.
Board is off their rocker tonight imo with some of this…the timeout to close out the first half was actually really savvy. Tb wanted that fg attempt to close out the half with no risk of buffalo getting the ball back.
the goal line run out of shotgun absolutely deserves to be criticized
a receiver being 2 feet away from a Hail Mary is almost winning a game? Come on. No one even knew where the ball was on either team because it was an absolute duck lol
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3 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:
McD / Dorsey started out with the right idea : more Josh Allen. Trouble is when the offense stalled a few times in the second half , he just couldn’t help himself and his conservative nature . They punted and it worked out, but the opportunity arose again to go for it on 4th and 2. The Analytics would probably say to go for it , get another score and effectively end the game. Again - you have Josh Allen! Get the 2 yards. Now, I understand his shoulder was sore but he was back in the game and doing fine. Instead he put it in the hands of his wounded defense to close it out. Not surprisingly, they were back on D with the game in the balance for a third consecutive week. They turned a B+ / A game into a C-. This one shouldn’t have been that close , and was almost another mind boggling debacle in the end.
The analytics would absolutely say to punt against an opponent like the bucs and it is not even remotely close… that td drive required a lot of luck and took foreverrrrr
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1 minute ago, Best Williams Available said:
The team is 2-1 in their last 3 games against bottom half teams. The Giants game should have been a loss too. So possibly 1-2 against not high powered Os. Any above avg O and they could be 0-3. The point being, the D is not up to snuff AND the rules favor offense so you have to do something to mitigate that as a coach. This idiot refuses to acknowledge that.
I’m not even advocating for going for it on that last 4th down but there were plenty of opportunities to put the game away earlier that he passed up. Being aggressive then is a way to mitigate the end game scenario.
Your logic is flawed….they are making these in game decisions with the current opponent in mind. That is my whole point. They’re not gonna say ‘well the chiefs have a good offense so let’s go for this 4th and short on the 40 against the bucs’ lol it’s illogical.
Tbs win percentage probably goes way up if we attempted those 4th and shorts. One stop and it’s a ballgame. They’ve got a bottom tier offense but a pretty good defense
giants and pats the offense struggles moving the football and the offensive line got pulverized. Tonight was a much better result against a better defense
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Just now, section122 said:
I fully support the punt with 30 seconds left. Make them drive the length of the field with 20 seconds. They had a very low percentage chance of winning on that play.
Also how wierd was it that tb took 6 minutes off the clock on themselves in a 2 score game?
Tb ran themselves straight out of the game and scored 8 points on complete lucky plays aided by an absolutely blatant push off by evans. Still didn’t have better than a 1/100 shot of winning it despite that
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TB / Buffalo Postgame thread
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Somethin silly happened there…someone on the bills whether it was morse or josh thought they caught the bucs Offside and that they had a free play